Here is a tune which has been a TOTW before, but which is so lovely that it needs a revisit, and I'd love to see your versions.
It is very closely (very, very closely) allied to the traditional Irish tune of Over the Moor to Maggie. The original is usually in three parts, Waynesboro itself is usually 2. Bruce Molsky plays a third part to Waynesboro which fits beautifully.
The tabs below include a clawhammer version of the original Irish with 3 parts, my take on Waynesboro, and a tenor banjo tab too. Take the 3rd part and add to Waynesboro if you like, it works really nicely. I am happy to share Musescore files for all - just email if you want me to send these please. With the Musescore file you can overlay Waynesboro on to the original to see how closely it fits. It's close....
I think the consensus view is that the Waynesboro tune is most likely from Kentucky, and I think it is named for Waynesburg, in Lincoln County. But that is in no way certain! The earliest recordings that I can find are Doc Roberts. Here are some YouTube links for the versions I have found helpful:
Fiddlin Doc Roberts version youtu.be/ggN6fmfVADI
Chance McCoy version youtu.be/zQbQABKiJ_8
Brad Kolodner version of Waynesboro - this is my favourite, and rolls along sooo beautifully as ever with Mr K.
youtu.be/GN1DjAHSKgI
My version of Waynesboro is below. Worked out by ear from Brad Kolodner and the Chance McCoy fiddle / banjo above. youtu.be/utl2UWLbOos
For the record, I find it difficult keeping to tempo on this, something about its nature that gallops along and wants to get faster. So I have a head phone with a metronome in one ear!
My version of Over the Moor to Maggie, clawhammer is here. Worked from sheet music (but tab below.)
youtu.be/Uyl5rWAHNKg
My version of Over the Moor to Maggie tenor banjo, GDAE. Be kind, I'm not really a tenor player, but just to show you perhaps how it ought to be.....
youtu.be/qNZ_95q_uYQ
My walkthrough for Waynesboro, clawhammer. I did this for my YouTube, so you might as well have this here.
youtu.be/R-A84WinbQY
Waynesboro Tab banjohangout.org/tab/browse.as...l&v=26087
Over the Moor to Maggie clawhammer tab
banjohangout.org/tab/browse.as...l&v=26089
Over the Moor to Maggie tenor banjo tab and score.
banjohangout.org/tab/browse.as...l&v=26088
Hope you enjoy playing this one, I love it!
Thanks Andy - that's one of my favourites. Great renditions and lots of information. I had no idea of the link to "Over The Moor To Maggie". On the Traditional Tune Archive it lists quite a few other related tunes: "Green Meadow"; "The Humors of Fairy Mount"; "Kittie's Wedding"; "Peggy's Wedding"; "The Willow Tree"; "Ladies In The Ballroom"; "The Leg of the Duck" (the last one is a jig version of the tune). Good tunes get around!
Great job of picking, Andrew,and as you say, I great tune to revisit. Here is a wonderful version on banjo by the late, great Dwight Diller. He learned the tune from Burl Hammons.
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Originally posted by gentrixukThanks Andy - that's one of my favourites. Great renditions and lots of information. I had no idea of the link to "Over The Moor To Maggie". On the Traditional Tune Archive it lists quite a few other related tunes: "Green Meadow"; "The Humors of Fairy Mount"; "Kittie's Wedding"; "Peggy's Wedding"; "The Willow Tree"; "Ladies In The Ballroom"; "The Leg of the Duck" (the last one is a jig version of the tune). Good tunes get around!
Thanks Mark. It does appear to have links and alternative names aplenty. It's a corker!
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Originally posted by Don BorcheltGreat job of picking, Andrew,and as you say, I great tune to revisit. Here is a wonderful version on banjo by the late, great Dwight Diller. He learned the tune from Burl Hammons.
Thanks Don, not sure how I missed that, DD is often the first place I'll check for a version. Lovely stuff!
For whatever reason I haven't recorded "Waynesboro," but did so as the 3-part Irish variant "Over the Moor to Maggie" on my last cd paired with the O'Carolan tune, "(Planxty) George Brabazon": https://youtu.be/Vs6P39Pym0A
For those wondering, I'm using the tuning gEADE.
I've always enjoyed this version by Ken Perlman and Alan Jabbour: https://youtu.be/ipDn8v7INcc
I too have wondered about the Waynesboro name origin. Somewhere I thought I read it might have been after Waynesboro, VA, but I don't remember the source.
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Originally posted by Andyrhydycreuauquote:
Originally posted by Don BorcheltGreat job of picking, Andrew,and as you say, I great tune to revisit. Here is a wonderful version on banjo by the late, great Dwight Diller. He learned the tune from Burl Hammons.
Thanks Don, not sure how I missed that, DD is often the first place I'll check for a version. Lovely stuff!
That's the version I play (or as close as I can get to it). I love the 2 succesive hammers on the 4th string and then on the 3rd string that start the A part.
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Originally posted by Noah ClineFor whatever reason I haven't recorded "Waynesboro," but did so as the 3-part Irish variant "Over the Moor to Maggie" on my last cd paired with the O'Carolan tune, "(Planxty) George Brabazon": https://youtu.be/Vs6P39Pym0A
For those wondering, I'm using the tuning gEADE.
I've always enjoyed this version by Ken Perlman and Alan Jabbour: https://youtu.be/ipDn8v7INcc
I too have wondered about the Waynesboro name origin. Somewhere I thought I read it might have been after Waynesboro, VA, but I don't remember the source.
That's a lovely take on "over the moor" thanks for sharing.
This is the version I play (or as close as I can get to it). I love the 2 succesive hammers on the 4th string and then on the 3rd string that start the A part.
That Dwight Diller start is hard to get though. He also does something at the start of the B part which I haven't quite got my ears around yet either . ...
@andrewD is the free Dwight Diller download still available? That has a Waynesboro tab in it. I have a copy, but not sure if it's ok to share here, or I would have just done a screenshot. That really clearly shows how Mr Diller starts both sections. I forgot about that download.....
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Originally posted by Andyrhydycreuau@andrewD is the free Dwight Diller download still available? That has a Waynesboro tab in it. I have a copy, but not sure if it's ok to share here, or I would have just done a screenshot. That really clearly shows how Mr Diller starts both sections. I forgot about that download.....
Yup. Still available Here. I'd forgotten it was there.
Thanks for bringing this to TOTW, Andy. I also love Brad Kolodner's version and learned it from his YouTube.
Fine choice, Andy, and your superlative effort to share research and playing technique is appreciated. Noah is always a treat to hear and now I realize his first Shamrock Clawhammer CD has a sequel. Happily I have the first one.
This video was made after listening to Edden Hammons' Waynesboro. I paired it with Big Sciota because both were in open G tuning. I've played around with this tune for a while, arranging different ways, but this is how I still play it. It's truly a favorite.
JanetB
Very Beautiful, Janet. Both your playing/arrangements and your banjo. Very lyrical, if that's the right word. Calm and complex at the same time, too.
Thanks @raybob @janetband @brooksmt.
Janet I really like your version, Brooks has described it perfectly. Calm & complex.
I'm going to try the Old G tuning and will aim for calm & complex!
Inspired by Janet's suggestion of "Old G" tuning. My old banjo here doesn't really like high (normal!) tunings, so here I am more like dADAB.
I like it in this tuning, works nicely and allows some space maybe.
