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Scammer Beware of member username “pure water”

Mar 20, 2023 - 4:13:30 PM
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35 posts since 4/9/2006

Member goes by the name, purewater, and agrees to buy your merchandise and wants to send you a bank check but then on the day it mails out he says oops my assistant made the check out for more than the amount owed. Wants me to cash it then contact him to get instructions on what to do with the the overpayment. Hard to believe they exist on this website ??????? email is generoussoul1001@gmail.com
Lookout for the name David Ander associated with the stated above. His email switches to andervidander23@gmail.com

Mar 20, 2023 - 4:30:54 PM

148 posts since 3/7/2011

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Originally posted by 5stringdog

Member goes by the name, purewater, and agrees to buy your merchandise and wants to send you a bank check but then on the day it mails out he says oops my assistant made the check out for more than the amount owed. Wants me to cash it then contact him to get instructions on what to do with the the overpayment. Hard to believe they exist on this website ??????? email is generoussoul1001@gmail.com
Lookout for the name David Ander associated with the stated above. His email switches to andervidander23@gmail.com

This guy asked about my Tradesman yesterday, wanted to know if he could send me a cashiers check, my alarm bells went off right away and I reported him to admin.. Be careful of this one friends! 


Mar 20, 2023 - 5:01:05 PM
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KCJones

USA

2347 posts since 8/30/2012

This is probably the most common marketplace scam there is. It's generally referred to as a check overpayment scam.

The username doesn't matter. They create new accounts every day. They'll be banned almost immediately and then be back tomorrow with a new account. IP bans don't work when you can switch your IP address in 5 seconds with a single click. The only real way the website can prevent these scams is by requiring ID verification of sellers, or by requiring an upfront payment to list items. Most websites don't want to do this because it significantly reduces the traffic to their marketplace, and it's onerous to legitimate sellers and their unpaid moderation staff.

The only thing to do is familiarize yourself with the most common scam methods and learn to recognize the signs. They all have the same hallmarks and once you learn them these scams are easy to spot.

consumer.ftc.gov/articles/fake...fographic

Mar 20, 2023 - 6:20:25 PM
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hayesdt

USA

414 posts since 9/4/2007

Had the same scam attempted on me last week by "Cives," and yes, he too identified himself as David Ander, who for about one day was a Hangout member but his/her account was lock the next day as a suspected scammer. Same type of scam was attempted. Scammers who use this method aren't interested at all in what you have for sale. They're only interested in having you pay for their "mistaken" overage in sending you a bogus check and having you send a return overage check.

Won't go into all the details here, but suffice it to say, it didn't work. In my case, he wasn't sending a "cashier's check," but he called it a "bank certified check."  I went ahead and let him send me this and later this week will turn it over to the New York State Consumer Affairs Office -- not that they'll be able to do much.  Just be very, very careful when buying/selling items.

Edited by - hayesdt on 03/20/2023 18:27:00

Mar 20, 2023 - 6:45:14 PM

522 posts since 7/28/2016

always wondered why when you find out where the overpayment is to be sent... then send the police ? or are the police not interested ?

Mar 20, 2023 - 9:34:55 PM

KCJones

USA

2347 posts since 8/30/2012

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Originally posted by gbisignani

always wondered why when you find out where the overpayment is to be sent... then send the police ? or are the police not interested ?


https://youtu.be/v7acD4q0lp0

Edited by - KCJones on 03/20/2023 21:35:16

Mar 20, 2023 - 10:16:06 PM
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522 posts since 7/28/2016

Love it !!!!!

Mar 21, 2023 - 4:51:07 AM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

28759 posts since 8/3/2003

NOTICE: Purewater has been locked out. Too many signs he's a spammer.

Mar 22, 2023 - 1:22:16 AM
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375 posts since 6/19/2011

quote:Same guy also tried me 2 times in last 3 weeks.  Said I coud mail the banjo to his father-in-law in NJ I think.  Also said "opps" sent too much money in certified check.  I still have my banjo and all my money.  He's slick.  BEWARE OF SCAMMER
Originally posted by 5stringdog

Member goes by the name, purewater, and agrees to buy your merchandise and wants to send you a bank check but then on the day it mails out he says oops my assistant made the check out for more than the amount owed. Wants me to cash it then contact him to get instructions on what to do with the the overpayment. Hard to believe they exist on this website ??????? email is generoussoul1001@gmail.com
Lookout for the name David Ander associated with the stated above. His email switches to andervidander23@gmail.com


Mar 22, 2023 - 5:24:51 PM

64 posts since 4/3/2009

Yep, I got email from him/her also about my banjo for sale.

Mar 24, 2023 - 10:37:25 AM
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407 posts since 4/26/2007

I believe he's now going by the username "twinz". Member since......today, lol.

Mods, you may want to look into it. I sent Eric a message the other day about purewater/David Ander, but I figured this would be a good spot to post the newest username.

Edited by - HuberTone on 03/24/2023 10:38:29

Mar 30, 2023 - 10:29:31 AM

283 posts since 2/22/2019

quote:
Originally posted by KCJones
quote:
Originally posted by gbisignani

always wondered why when you find out where the overpayment is to be sent... then send the police ? or are the police not interested ?


https://youtu.be/v7acD4q0lp0


Yup that explains their interest.

Mar 30, 2023 - 11:16:09 AM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

28759 posts since 8/3/2003

FYI: Twinz account was locked out early this morning.

When in doubt whether someone is legit or a scammer, check my sticky on the swap shop:  https://www.banjohangout.org/topic/389395

Edited by - Texasbanjo on 03/30/2023 11:18:54

May 9, 2023 - 6:01:07 PM

11 posts since 9/2/2009

Well he's still out there just tried to send me a check on my banjo I got curious and found out that this guy is still trying to work us.Thanks for letting us know Tom

May 9, 2023 - 7:09:57 PM

Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

27073 posts since 6/25/2005

Exactly. Locking an account cannot keep someone from reading BHO.

May 10, 2023 - 3:38:14 PM

llachow

USA

2 posts since 1/3/2023

I'm currently communicating with this scammer via email. I reported it to an admin; awaiting a response.

May 10, 2023 - 6:30:35 PM

1 posts since 12/12/2016

He’s a busy little bugger. I’ve had the same from him this week. First contact from:
This message was sent to you from chandle (saye3247@gmail.com) via Banjo Hangout:
Then responded from David Ander andervidander23@gmail.com
Just reported it to Eric ;-(

May 21, 2023 - 9:41:12 AM

ianz91

USA

1 posts since 4/5/2023

He just tried to scam me. Glad I found this post about "David Ander." Something seemed fishy and why we send so much more than the price of the banjo. Am now reposting my Bart Reiter, which had been listed as "Sale Pending."

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