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Feb 7, 2023 - 5:23:58 PM
8 posts since 2/7/2023

This is from east bound and down. Capo at the second fret , I am including the lick slowed down and at speed so there are two different mp3.
There is a member on here named Banjo Don aka Don Titus, this is from one of his songs. This guy is a killer banger picker!! I think I know what he is doing but dont want to say so as not to prejudice you. It is mainly the left hand fretting I think I need help with.
I know there are two 2-3 slides then 2-3 pull off, it is from that point I am asking for help. Any advice would be appreciated. Well apparently i can only post a link after third post. 

If you get  chance listen to his song , his break is at 1 min 12 seconds. Sorry for the trouble

Edited by - gasgas on 02/07/2023 17:32:42

Feb 7, 2023 - 6:08:06 PM
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I don't see any link to the recording.

Feb 7, 2023 - 6:46:56 PM

8 posts since 2/7/2023

Yes sorry I can’t post attachments till I have three posts, if you have time look under mp3 east bound and down , his break is at 1:12 , it’s an awesome song

Feb 7, 2023 - 7:55:53 PM

2678 posts since 11/17/2018

quote:
Originally posted by gasgas

Yes sorry I can’t post attachments till I have three posts, if you have time look under mp3 east bound and down , his break is at 1:12 , it’s an awesome song


Post the link to the MP3.

It doesn't need to be an attachment.

Feb 7, 2023 - 11:26:05 PM

8 posts since 2/7/2023

Well not sure if i did this right but this is the link to both mp3
banjohangout.org/forum/attachm...eID=44336

banjohangout.org/forum/attachm...eID=44337

Feb 7, 2023 - 11:38:29 PM

2678 posts since 11/17/2018

quote:
Originally posted by gasgas

Well not sure if i did this right but this is the link to both mp3
banjohangout.org/forum/attachm...eID=44336

banjohangout.org/forum/attachm...eID=44337


Doesn't work.

You don't add links as attachments.

You simply copy and paste them into your post...

https://www.banjohangout.org/

Edited by - OldNavyGuy on 02/07/2023 23:39:22

Feb 7, 2023 - 11:45:06 PM

2678 posts since 11/17/2018

From your Media profile -

East Bound and Down 1 -

banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...archived=

East Bound and Down 2 -

banjohangout.org/myhangout/med...archived=

These aren't long enough to get to a 1 minute 12 second mark that you mentioned in your first post...unless these are the sections of the break that start at 1:12.

Edited by - OldNavyGuy on 02/07/2023 23:51:36

Feb 8, 2023 - 2:42:17 AM
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RB-1

Netherlands

3897 posts since 6/17/2003

I think I know what you're after.

It's the 'A' lick that is one of many variations from an Alan Munde creation (we all are using his ideas, aren't we? wink)

The right hand fingering is underneath the staff, the left hand -in red- over the specific notes,

Edited by - RB-1 on 02/08/2023 02:43:21

Feb 8, 2023 - 3:08 AM

8 posts since 2/7/2023

That might be it, I will try it later tonight thank you soooo much


Feb 8, 2023 - 5:41:12 AM

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Netherlands

3897 posts since 6/17/2003

quote:
Originally posted by gasgas

That might be it, I will try it later tonight thank you soooo much


By then I'll probably be sound asleep as there's at least 6 hours time difference between us...wink

Have fun anyway and I think it's about right, let me know.

Feb 8, 2023 - 3:49:38 PM

8 posts since 2/7/2023

hey bruno that is not the lick look at the link above in Old Navy Guy, i slowed it down . Any thoughts on that?

Feb 8, 2023 - 7:33:38 PM

295 posts since 11/2/2009

Whatever you do, you can’t make it sound like the record, because the record has two banjos, both played by Jerry Reed.

Feb 8, 2023 - 11:30:02 PM
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No there are not two banjos. I put a mp3 above in my previous post. Slowed it down so you can hear it. This song was originally posted by Banjo Don here on the hangout. The lick I included above is the only one I am questioning. Any help would be appreciated .

Feb 10, 2023 - 8:59:44 AM
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3077 posts since 4/5/2006

Take the Bruno tab & work with it. It's close enough.

Feb 13, 2023 - 8:15:02 AM

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Netherlands

3897 posts since 6/17/2003

quote:
Originally posted by gasgas

hey bruno that is not the lick look at the link above in Old Navy Guy, i slowed it down . Any thoughts on that?


Yes.

That's exactly what I transcribed -real quick- to the best of my abilities.

So I don't understand the confusion here...surprise

Feb 13, 2023 - 8:24:18 AM
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Netherlands

3897 posts since 6/17/2003

quote:
Originally posted by gcpicken

Whatever you do, you can’t make it sound like the record, because the record has two banjos, both played by Jerry Reed.


What record? He's asking for the lick in the mp-3. That's definitely one banjo.

I've heard Jerry Reed's attempts sounding like a banjo on an elektrik geetar. Close, but no chocolat.

Why worry if you can have the real thing?cheeky

Listening to this I would bet it's Jerry only on the geetar and the banjo sounds suspiciously like Bobby Thompson.

Edited by - RB-1 on 02/13/2023 08:32:28

Feb 13, 2023 - 9:09:25 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by RB-1
quote:
Originally posted by gcpicken

Whatever you do, you can’t make it sound like the record, because the record has two banjos, both played by Jerry Reed.


What record? He's asking for the lick in the mp-3. That's definitely one banjo.

I've heard Jerry Reed's attempts sounding like a banjo on an elektrik geetar. Close, but no chocolat.

Why worry if you can have the real thing?cheeky

Listening to this I would bet it's Jerry only on the geetar and the banjo sounds suspiciously like Bobby Thompson.


 Bobby Thompson got the credits for banjo in the movie.

Feb 13, 2023 - 9:14:10 AM

oneduke

USA

84 posts since 6/21/2008

Hey Bruno , first of all I am most likely an idiot and I may not have interpreted your tab correctly. I think that I’m right, but in the thread above, you will see that I have included a slow down version. So the member on here is Banjo Don , you can find his whole song under the MP3s.. I really do truly appreciate your help and your patience. If you wouldn’t mind, give it a look and see if maybe we’re talking about the same break. It just seems like that the one that you included didn’t sound like the clip I included. But then again …..I’m an idiot

Feb 13, 2023 - 10:45:44 AM
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Netherlands

3897 posts since 6/17/2003

I'm famous for being a part time idiot, but in general I do quite well...cheeky wink

So don't put yourself down... smiley

This is the soundfile I've used for transcribing ( as it was the last one in line available before I posted my answer....) I immediately that cascading A-lick, variations on that one I'm using myself when appropriate.

Or.. when there are banjo players in the audience, teasing them by playing it completely out of context. laugh

I think it's kind of a miracle that in spite of an ocean between us and considerable language differences we get to work together in this. I therefore cherish  the Banjo Hangout

Feb 13, 2023 - 11:06:31 AM

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Netherlands

3897 posts since 6/17/2003

...I immediately recognised... blush

Feb 13, 2023 - 2:27:52 PM

2436 posts since 1/16/2010

Ha…nice idea, but Jerry didn’t play banjo at all. He did really appreciate it and incorporate it into a lot of his music, but he didn’t play one.

From his mouth however, the only show he ever paid money to go and see was Lester Flatt and Earl Scruggs. He sat in the front row watching Earl’s technique and got ideas for how to do similar rolls on guitar. Jerry “understood” banjo, and how to use it in his band, even late into the game in the 80’s and 90’s when most country groups had tossed the banjo aside.

There were TWO banjos played on “Eastbound and down”. Both Bobby Thompson and hangout member Dennis Bottoms played dual banjos on the recording. Dennis was in Jerry’s band and one of his regular banjo pickers, while I don’t believe Bobby ever was.

Feb 13, 2023 - 2:30:10 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by gasgas

hey bruno that is not the lick look at the link above in Old Navy Guy, i slowed it down . Any thoughts on that?


99+% what Bruno tabbed is the lick. I just spent several minutes playing along.

Here are the minor differences:

> Bruno made a choice to ignore the first two notes of the audio which are part of the "pickup" -- the fractional 3-note measure before the real stuff starts with the 2-3 slide on 3rd string.  If you want the full pickup, just add an open 5th followed by an open 3rd before the 0-2 hammer on 4th. 

In the lick itself:

> Last note of the second measure: try 2nd string at 5 instead of 1st string open. That's what I hear. And it's the only note I disagree with. I could be wrong.

You can also ignore the last measure of the second line (playing an "F" shape) since that's not what you're asking about and it's not in the edited audio that zeros in on the lick.

Have fun.

Edited by - Old Hickory on 02/13/2023 14:31:12

Feb 13, 2023 - 4:50:35 PM

8 posts since 2/7/2023

https://www.hangoutstorage.com/banjohangout.org/storage/audio/14/east-bound-148478-2928161322023.mp3

Bruno if you can suffer through one more attempt I think i have put a link to an mp3 I made. The first is slow and what I hear, the second is faster but very hard to do because I am barring the A chord and catching the third string with my ring finger on my left hand. Seems very labor intensive and hard to do fast . I did play yours and I dont think its quite right, or maybe I am not quite right....thats probably more accurate. Thank you for trying to help 


Feb 14, 2023 - 4:39:10 AM
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Netherlands

3897 posts since 6/17/2003

The one of the left is - like Ken mentioned-, 99% what I wrote.

The one on the right, the one you recorded -and I must say, already VERY recognizable- is the Thompson version, already tabbed by Jack Baker: https://www.banjohangout.org/topic/388738

So no use doing that again.... ( I think wink)

What could help though is adapting your left hand at this 'A' chord.

It's incredibly hard to hammer while barring AND keeping a clean sound as well ( as you might have experienced).

I hardly ever barr the whole neck there, but rather use independant fingers.

Little finger on string1, ring on 2, middle on 3, then hammer (and hold!) with index on the 4th string (2nd fret).

Then, on the backward part of this reverse roll, keep all fingers where they are, just roll on.

In the next bar, nothing changes, just roll through the rest. Lift the index at the very end of the bar, so you're having the open 4th string ready for hammering to the 3rd fret in the next bar.

I'd choose my ring for doing that hammer. (little finger on 1, index on 2 and middle on 3, but you probably found that already....)

 

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Feb 14, 2023 - 5:07:06 AM

oneduke

USA

84 posts since 6/21/2008

Thank you I will give it a go tonight

Feb 14, 2023 - 10:04:29 AM

13959 posts since 6/2/2008

quote:
Originally posted by gasgas

. . . very hard to do because I am barring the A chord and catching the third string with my ring finger on my left hand. Seems very labor intensive and hard to do fast 


I don't see where there's any reason to bar anything in what Bruno tabbed. If you're talking about the virtual A chord (fingered as A, but really B because of the capo), that's in an F shape from 5th to 7th frets and Bruno has provided the suggested left hand fingering.

The way I've played this lick for decades is to build the left hand shape one fretted note at a time, only fretting any note just before it's needed. So when the lick starts at 4th string 7th fret, that's the only note you're holding. As the lick progresses, you have plenty of time to get the middle onto 3rd at 6 then the index onto 2nd at 5 and finally the little finger onto 1st at 7.

Where would you bar?

Am I missing something?

This is a useful lick to learn. In his version of Dear Old Dixie, Alan Munde continues the lick, in a different pattern, up to the partial "G" at 8 and 9. I try to play my version of it in Glendale Train or just about anywhere a II-V-I progression happens. Usually I get fingered-tied and don't quite pull it off.

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