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Feb 3, 2023 - 7:31:03 AM
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stamped on a little Hopkins and Allen Safety Police (triple action safety revolver) pistol that I recently obtained. My guess is the pistol is is a little over 100 years old 1910-1920. On the other side of the frame is stamped USCC or USCG (as the "G" could be partially obscured and look like a "C"). If it is indeed I would think it could be for the United States Coast Guard. But since it is a .22 caliber, I wonder if the Coast Guard would have ever used such a small caliber, except maybe for training. Also stamped on the other side is a serial number, not from the manufacturer ..... maybe an armory.

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Feb 3, 2023 - 7:35 AM
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Your guess is what i would say..
Mebee search Coats Gaurd military symbols..?

Probly an Acadamy training tool..

Feb 3, 2023 - 7:46 AM

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Could be a range insignia..

Feb 3, 2023 - 9:20:48 AM
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Originally posted by STUD

Your guess is what i would say..
Mebee search Coats Gaurd military symbols..?

Probly an Acadamy training tool..


That's kind of what I was thinking, as I wouldn;t think a .22 would be used as a service pistol, although some have been used in recent time, including by the Navy Seals.  But even those are for a special purpose.

Al you would like the "triple action" part of this pistol.  The "third" action is when you release the trigger, the hammer slide up to where it is rests on a flat spot on the frame rather than the firing pin ...... and you know what that means.  If you drop it an it hits on the hammer, a round doesn't go off!  I have always said the safest gun is a single action revolver with the hammer on an empty chamber.  Maybe this one is just as safe!

Feb 3, 2023 - 9:22:53 AM

ChunoTheDog

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2148 posts since 8/9/2019

quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink
quote:
Originally posted by STUD

Your guess is what i would say..
Mebee search Coats Gaurd military symbols..?

Probly an Acadamy training tool..


That's kind of what I was thinking, as I wouldn;t think a .22 would be used as a service pistol, although some have been used in recent time, including by the Navy Seals.  But even those are for a special purpose.

Al you would like the "triple action" part of this pistol.  The "third" action is when you release the trigger, the hammer slide up to where it is rests on a flat spot on the frame rather than the firing pin ...... and you know what that means.  If you drop it an it hits on the hammer, a round doesn't go off!  I have always said the safest gun is a single action revolver with the hammer on an empty chamber.  Maybe this one is just as safe!


the CAG boys had a special integrally suppressed .22 pistol made for them for specific purposes also and the guys kept taking them home for plinking and squirrel hunting and never bringing them back so they stopped that program lol this was in the early 90s.

Feb 3, 2023 - 9:25:12 AM
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ChunoTheDog

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quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink

stamped on a little Hopkins and Allen Safety Police (triple action safety revolver) pistol that I recently obtained. My guess is the pistol is is a little over 100 years old 1910-1920. On the other side of the frame is stamped USCC or USCG (as the "G" could be partially obscured and look like a "C"). If it is indeed I would think it could be for the United States Coast Guard. But since it is a .22 caliber, I wonder if the Coast Guard would have ever used such a small caliber, except maybe for training. Also stamped on the other side is a serial number, not from the manufacturer ..... maybe an armory.

Any thoughts?


I would send a pic to Othias and co at C&Rsenal https://www.youtube.com/@Candrsenal/about

They love to nerd out on old obscure and rare firearms and generally quite receptive to inquires/questions.

Feb 3, 2023 - 12:02:10 PM

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The arrows remind me of this

i.stack.imgur.com/qMjYi.png

Feb 3, 2023 - 1:41:35 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by ChunoTheDog
quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink

stamped on a little Hopkins and Allen Safety Police (triple action safety revolver) pistol that I recently obtained. My guess is the pistol is is a little over 100 years old 1910-1920. On the other side of the frame is stamped USCC or USCG (as the "G" could be partially obscured and look like a "C"). If it is indeed I would think it could be for the United States Coast Guard. But since it is a .22 caliber, I wonder if the Coast Guard would have ever used such a small caliber, except maybe for training. Also stamped on the other side is a serial number, not from the manufacturer ..... maybe an armory.

Any thoughts?


I would send a pic to Othias and co at C&Rsenal https://www.youtube.com/@Candrsenal/about

They love to nerd out on old obscure and rare firearms and generally quite receptive to inquires/questions.


Thanks Chuno ..... have sent them the info and hope to get a response.  I didn't realize they are located South Carolina.

Edited by - BanjoLink on 02/03/2023 13:42:06

Feb 3, 2023 - 2:17:14 PM

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I have an Idea what it may be but I’m going let John get the results from his inquiry.

Feb 3, 2023 - 3:11:47 PM

bubbalouie

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Tried a Google search. All there was was stamps in a shield. 

Feb 3, 2023 - 4:47:16 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by bubbalouie

Tried a Google search. All there was was stamps in a shield. 


Yeah ....... me too.   I don't think it is going to be easy.  If the stamp of the other side is indeed USCC rather than USCG, then I wounder what that could stand for.

Feb 3, 2023 - 5:13:58 PM

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USCC
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US Club Cadet...?

Guessin..

Feb 3, 2023 - 7:05:09 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink
quote:
Originally posted by bubbalouie

Tried a Google search. All there was was stamps in a shield. 


Yeah ....... me too.   I don't think it is going to be easy.  If the stamp of the other side is indeed USCC rather than USCG, then I wounder what that could stand for.


USCC has something to do with the Navy Merchant Marines

google acronyms for USCC and it gives a list of possible candidates. 

https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/USCC

Edited by - 5B-Ranch on 02/03/2023 19:06:28

Feb 3, 2023 - 9:37:40 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by 5B-Ranch
quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink
quote:
Originally posted by bubbalouie

Tried a Google search. All there was was stamps in a shield. 


Yeah ....... me too.   I don't think it is going to be easy.  If the stamp of the other side is indeed USCC rather than USCG, then I wounder what that could stand for.


USCC has something to do with the Navy Merchant Marines

google acronyms for USCC and it gives a list of possible candidates. 

https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/USCC

 


US Corps of Cadets seems like a logical choice but I could not find any logo that came close. 

Feb 3, 2023 - 10:57:08 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink
quote:
Originally posted by 5B-Ranch
quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink
quote:
Originally posted by bubbalouie

Tried a Google search. All there was was stamps in a shield. 


Yeah ....... me too.   I don't think it is going to be easy.  If the stamp of the other side is indeed USCC rather than USCG, then I wounder what that could stand for.


USCC has something to do with the Navy Merchant Marines

google acronyms for USCC and it gives a list of possible candidates. 

https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/USCC

 


US Corps of Cadets seems like a logical choice but I could not find any logo that came close. 


I believe through my extensive research that the shield and arrow stamp is an Arsenal proof mark now which Arsenal it came from that is the $64000 question. 

Feb 3, 2023 - 11:23:19 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by 5B-Ranch
quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink
quote:
Originally posted by 5B-Ranch
quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink
quote:
Originally posted by bubbalouie

Tried a Google search. All there was was stamps in a shield. 


Yeah ....... me too.   I don't think it is going to be easy.  If the stamp of the other side is indeed USCC rather than USCG, then I wounder what that could stand for.


USCC has something to do with the Navy Merchant Marines

google acronyms for USCC and it gives a list of possible candidates. 

https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/USCC

 


US Corps of Cadets seems like a logical choice but I could not find any logo that came close. 


I believe through my extensive research that the shield and arrow stamp is an Arsenal proof mark now which Arsenal it came from that is the $64000 question. 


After an extensive search I come to the conclusion.. I give up why couldn't it have been a firearm from some other country? Seem Those proof marks are easier to find. 

Feb 4, 2023 - 10:19:10 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by 5B-Ranch
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Originally posted by 5B-Ranch
quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink
quote:
Originally posted by 5B-Ranch
quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink
quote:
Originally posted by bubbalouie

Tried a Google search. All there was was stamps in a shield. 


Yeah ....... me too.   I don't think it is going to be easy.  If the stamp of the other side is indeed USCC rather than USCG, then I wounder what that could stand for.


USCC has something to do with the Navy Merchant Marines

google acronyms for USCC and it gives a list of possible candidates. 

https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/USCC

 


US Corps of Cadets seems like a logical choice but I could not find any logo that came close. 


I believe through my extensive research that the shield and arrow stamp is an Arsenal proof mark now which Arsenal it came from that is the $64000 question. 


After an extensive search I come to the conclusion.. I give up why couldn't it have been a firearm from some other country? Seem Those proof marks are easier to find. 


You gave me an idea and I checked on "armory" proof marks and came up empty ........... didn't specify a country though I still think the US means United States.  I am sure that someone somewhere is familiar with the mark.

Feb 4, 2023 - 11:24:07 AM

38081 posts since 3/5/2008

Stay tuned...

Would be neet to get an answer..

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