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Jan 28, 2023 - 9:17:44 AM



223 posts since 12/11/2017

This makes a whole lot of sense to me -- so I must be missing something?

Jan 28, 2023 - 10:53:24 AM

1795 posts since 2/21/2011

Yes, it makes a whole lotta sense to me as well, and no, you're not missing a thing.  I'd been looking at this video with great interest for several years now.  If my hands weren't so fouled up with arthritis I'd throw some money down and have one built for me. 

Jan 28, 2023 - 10:53:27 AM



1661 posts since 4/12/2004

If the 5th string is tuned to a G-note that's an octave higher than the third string G-note, I would think that the tension in the 5th string would be great enough that there would be a high probability of string breakage.

Jan 28, 2023 - 11:19:53 AM

1693 posts since 4/13/2009

I would expect that the 5th string is lighter than the first, maybe 9 or even 8 - D'Addario sells a loop end 8.

Jan 28, 2023 - 1:25:47 PM

251 posts since 5/27/2008

I've but one of these for a friend. It works fine with regular strings. You can tune your g at the nut or spike it at the fifth. Then unspiked you have lower notes you can spike to play around with.

Jan 28, 2023 - 3:06:22 PM
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665 posts since 3/9/2013

Maybe I couldn’t see it but where was the 5th tuner? I only see 4 on peghead

Jan 28, 2023 - 3:41:07 PM
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60197 posts since 12/14/2005

My neck was made by me, several years ago.

Regular 5th string seldom breaks, and when I have to capo, one capo does all the strings at a single move.

IF any of my opinions were humble, it would be my humble opinion that the short 5th is a needless leftover from when it was a LOT easier to get a short piece of horsehair tuned high, than to crank a LONG piece that high, and HOPE that it wouldn't snap.

Jan 29, 2023 - 6:05:06 AM
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262 posts since 6/5/2006

Its difficult to see in the video but the 3rd string tuner is in the center of the peghead.  

Edited by - restreet on 01/29/2023 06:06:51

Jan 30, 2023 - 6:59:17 AM
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3768 posts since 11/8/2010

If the 5th string is full-length and tuned to the high G, then you can't do any of the common licks that have you use the fretted 5th string any more. I think tuning the 5th string to a D note and putting a spike at the 5th fret to spike it to G makes more sense.

Feb 4, 2023 - 1:36:59 PM
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38145 posts since 3/5/2008

I have 2 Yates set up this way..
One with a brass tone ring

The other..has only a brass hoop..
The hoop one is a great deal lighter..
I bought it n had Warren Yates..make a new neck for it..
The banjo is a Yates too..i still have the 5th string tuner neck for it also..

I got it after me heart transplant..
As it was hold after surgery.. didn'
What the heck..'eh..

Both sound fantastic to me..
Both differnt..
But nice to play..

I use a guitar slide in me playing..
N..thos banjos are the Cat's Azz...for that..

Use a #8 string fer the they stretch..better..


Feb 4, 2023 - 1:45:21 PM

38145 posts since 3/5/2008

If you are near ct..

You may come try them..if you want..

Feb 5, 2023 - 8:55:08 AM

4498 posts since 3/28/2008

Interesting. Nechville had a model years ago with a full-length fifth string, but he had it tuned to D, with the option to capo it up to the normal G. This Yates tuning opens up some interesting possibilities.

Feb 5, 2023 - 11:13:28 AM



94 posts since 4/15/2020

Hmmm... Well I have a tunneled 5th string. Five tuners in the peghead. The fifth string goes from the tuner into the peghead, transitions through the peghead and neck and comes out where the 5th fret is. So there's no odd geometry on the neck. It just transitions down gradually.

This was kind of important for me because I have damage in the basal joint of my left hand, making it hard for me to navigate the side peg when moving my hand up and down the neck. The tunneled 5th string solves that problem.

Feb 6, 2023 - 3:38:47 AM

38145 posts since 3/5/2008

I have tried that route also..
It has its advantages...


Feb 7, 2023 - 6:22:01 AM
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16570 posts since 8/30/2006

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Feb 7, 2023 - 7:08:28 AM

4498 posts since 3/28/2008

Here's one of Nechville's models with a full-length fifth string.

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