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It seems to me that "punk" consists of getting tattoos, dying one's hair multiple colors, falling head-first into a fishing tackle box and then attempting the performance of some existing genre of music. Accordingly, I would think that this should be characterized as punk folk, rather than folk punk.
Edited by - RB3 on 01/21/2023 08:17:21
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Originally posted by Old HickoryHe sort of picks the banjo in the last song. Not that you can hear it.
Is this group anybody? Do they have a following?
To me, they sound a lot like Violent Femmes from the '90s. Listen to the song "Blister in the Sun."
I agree it's nice to see young groups playing acoustic music and including banjo -- even if banjo isn't being played what many of us consider banjoistically. As Davis said above, maybe someone will pick up banjo to play this stuff, then (wanting to play the instrument as actual banjo players do) will go down paths of discovery to musical artists.
"Blister In the Sun"? "From the '90s"? That was 1982. But listen to "Country Death Song" from their 1984 album Hallowed Ground! That's Tony Trishka, playing the "Folk Punk" banjo on that one! Tony Trishka! Folk-Punker! ;)
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Originally posted by Greg Denton
"Blister In the Sun"? "From the '90s"? That was 1982.
Oops. I'm 71. It seems like yesterday.
I started working for myself in '91 and used to hear that song on the alternative station I listened to. That song was on so much I thought it was current.
I'll definitely check out the Trischka stuff.
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Originally posted by chuckv97Saskatchewan guys playing _____ ? Is there a category for this music!?
youtu.be/B9FzVhw8_bY
Do you know these guys? I was supposed to see them here in Ohio a year or two ago, but it got cancelled for reasons we won't discuss (this time!). They're pretty good!
Hi Anthony,,, no, I don’t know them but their former banjo player jammed with us a few years ago.
I was kind of thinking their music doesn’t really fit in any category,, which is a good thing artitically but probably not commercially. They could fall under, bluegrass, alt Americana/Canadiana, folk, etc.
I listened to every musical link in this thread, & many other bands that were recommended by Youtube. I admire any group of musicians who can coordinate a performance, but I didn't hear anything that hadn't been done many times over by country or folk artist. ( Who ever came up w/ the idea to include the term "Punk" in this discourse on genres?)
Edited by - tdennis on 01/21/2023 17:54:01
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Originally posted by chuckv97Hi Anthony,,, no, I don’t know them but their former banjo player jammed with us a few years ago.
I was kind of thinking their music doesn’t really fit in any category,, which is a good thing artitically but probably not commercially. They could fall under, bluegrass, alt Americana/Canadiana, folk, etc.
I was thinking traditional country? But I only learned about them because they did Johnny Boy's Bones with Colter Wall and he's def trad country.
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Originally posted by chuckv97Colter Wall is the son of former Saskatchewan Premier (similar to your State Governor) Brad Wall. I would probably categorize that song as Americana/Canadiana,,, but then ho cares about categories…?
I knew that. What's funny is I've talked to Colter a few times on his smoke breaks. He's wasn't impressed with politicians - period. I never asked if he and dad got along.
chuckv97 Very cool, and I was thinking "Captain Woodstock's Coursthip." I think you are "more" unique. I hear Albertiana.
Old Hickory: Not criticizing you. We can differ about what you wrote. You sounded more acid, now you are sounding a little more alkalai. I hear a tone of sarcasm, I'm sorry if I disturbed your peace.
These young people are self-propelled, they don't have to be like us. I see young men and women with a common goal. I hear good applause.
NotABanjoYoda: thanks for your perspective. Playing keeps us young.
Here's one: Rindy Ross and her husband were high end High School Music Teachers, but in Lake Oswego, Oregon which was also the subject of Springsteen's "Tunnel of Love." Ms. Ross plays sax on the side.
the first local Portland Band was "Seafood Mama." The same band then became "New Shoes." Then Geffen picked them up, no more music teaching at the school.
Then the next band for the Ross's was "Quarterflash." The hit was "Harden My heart." She soloed on Sax night after night when they. toured. Where are they? I don't know. The drummer was from "Crawdad Valley" up towards the Coast Range. That drew the locals in.
Pigeon Pit has tatoos.
Remember Los Lobos. I read that they didn't know how to play the traditional acoustic instruments for their roots.
SO THEY LEARNED. My favorite Bronze locals are "Hombres de Bronzo." One of them works for the State of AZ.
Here's a pair of pigeons helping an architect's long camera exposure of the ceiling.
Edited by - Helix on 01/22/2023 03:10:26
I watched the clip and saw competent musicians enjoying themselves. I enjoyed their performance too. Nice to hear a banjo doing something slightly different. Kind've folky Americana, maybe with some social issues in the lyrics (aka folk!) and actually fairly middle-of-the road stuff. No overt anger I could detect, no intent to stick two fingers, offend the status quo and shake things up at all. And these days accountants and town-planners have tattoos. My nan would've tapped her feet to this.
So being of the punk generation way back when....punk? Nah.
Edited by - quartertoner on 01/22/2023 03:38:41
For what it's worth from a historical perspective. Punking banjo has been going on much longer than the current trend. Others of my age might have more to add on this. The first I encountered it was in the late 70's and early '80's. Richie Stearns and the Horseflies were some of the first I heard using punk/rock styles in old time music and getting recorded. Seems like there were others pushing the boundaries back then too, but names escape me right now. I believe Mike Seeker put out a record of young folks doing different takes on old-time music at that time too. Fun and interesting stuff to listen to.
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Originally posted by quartertonerI watched the clip and saw competent musicians enjoying themselves. I enjoyed their performance too. Nice to hear a banjo doing something slightly different. Kind've folky Americana, maybe with some social issues in the lyrics (aka folk!) and actually fairly middle-of-the road stuff. No overt anger I could detect, no intent to stick two fingers, offend the status quo and shake things up at all. And these days accountants and town-planners have tattoos. My nan would've tapped her feet to this.
So being of the punk generation way back when....punk? Nah.
Just curious if you know what the "soup for my family" reference is really about.
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Originally posted by Mad Hornetquote:
Originally posted by quartertonerI watched the clip and saw competent musicians enjoying themselves. I enjoyed their performance too. Nice to hear a banjo doing something slightly different. Kind've folky Americana, maybe with some social issues in the lyrics (aka folk!) and actually fairly middle-of-the road stuff. No overt anger I could detect, no intent to stick two fingers, offend the status quo and shake things up at all. And these days accountants and town-planners have tattoos. My nan would've tapped her feet to this.
So being of the punk generation way back when....punk? Nah.Just curious if you know what the "soup for my family" reference is really about.
Out of curiosity I looked it up. Turns out I was already aware of the circumstances that it refers to.
But I don't see either way how knowing or not knowing the reference is relevant to the OP? Most all folk music includes social references. And I quite liked the track. But there's nothing there to link it to the music I was listening to in the 70's. Chalk and cheese.
Maybe 'punk' has a different association in the US? Culturally, for us over here, it has a singular and very specific association. The music was a part of it but an attitude of mind was what it was really about in the early days. Then, like most things that attract attention, it got commercialised and that commercial control and contrivance couldn't have been further from that original intent and mindset.*
* - A strangely longer than necessary post simply to keep the description free of expletives. All you really need to write to summarise the explosively released pent-up frustration in dance halls and community centres here in 1976 were two words.
Edited by - quartertoner on 01/22/2023 08:59:59
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Originally posted by quartertonerquote:
Originally posted by Mad Hornetquote:
Originally posted by quartertonerI watched the clip and saw competent musicians enjoying themselves. I enjoyed their performance too. Nice to hear a banjo doing something slightly different. Kind've folky Americana, maybe with some social issues in the lyrics (aka folk!) and actually fairly middle-of-the road stuff. No overt anger I could detect, no intent to stick two fingers, offend the status quo and shake things up at all. And these days accountants and town-planners have tattoos. My nan would've tapped her feet to this.
So being of the punk generation way back when....punk? Nah.Just curious if you know what the "soup for my family" reference is really about.
Out of curiosity I looked it up. Turns out I was already aware of the circumstances that it refers to.
But I don't see either way how knowing or not knowing the reference is relevant to the OP? Most all folk music includes social references. And I quite liked the track. But there's nothing there to link it to the music I was listening to in the 70's. Chalk and cheese.
Maybe 'punk' has a different association in the US? Culturally, for us over here, it has a singular and very specific association.
It's not. I was just curious if that went over people's heads. It wasn't reported on in the main stream media over here.
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Originally posted by Mad Hornetquote:
Originally posted by quartertonerquote:
Originally posted by Mad Hornetquote:
Originally posted by quartertonerI watched the clip and saw competent musicians enjoying themselves. I enjoyed their performance too. Nice to hear a banjo doing something slightly different. Kind've folky Americana, maybe with some social issues in the lyrics (aka folk!) and actually fairly middle-of-the road stuff. No overt anger I could detect, no intent to stick two fingers, offend the status quo and shake things up at all. And these days accountants and town-planners have tattoos. My nan would've tapped her feet to this.
So being of the punk generation way back when....punk? Nah.Just curious if you know what the "soup for my family" reference is really about.
Out of curiosity I looked it up. Turns out I was already aware of the circumstances that it refers to.
But I don't see either way how knowing or not knowing the reference is relevant to the OP? Most all folk music includes social references. And I quite liked the track. But there's nothing there to link it to the music I was listening to in the 70's. Chalk and cheese.
Maybe 'punk' has a different association in the US? Culturally, for us over here, it has a singular and very specific association.
It's not. I was just curious if that went over people's heads. It wasn't reported on in the main stream media over here.
Maybe if their aim had been better it would've got on your news channels.
And your then-president could've cashed-in by becoming the face of Heinz carrot and orange soup. At least he'd be remembered for something.
We use eggs here. Pretty good hit rate too (both ways at times).
Edited by - quartertoner on 01/22/2023 09:10:20
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Originally posted by quartertoner
More recent Stranglers videos
Neat music. I don't think the banjo is actually being "played" in this band, but even a prop banjo might generate some interest in the crowd so it's not a bad thing that's for sure.
My favorite part of the video was when they started kvetching about having to work in order to buy food and pay rent. Must be so hard for them. Boo hoo.
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Originally posted by carlbquote:
Originally posted by quartertonerMore recent Stranglers videos
https://thestranglers.co.uk/videography/
The Stranglers original frontman Hugh Cornwell left to pursue a solo career. He continues to make interesting music.
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Originally posted by Mad Hornetquote:
Originally posted by chuckv97Hi Anthony,,, no, I don’t know them but their former banjo player jammed with us a few years ago.
I was kind of thinking their music doesn’t really fit in any category,, which is a good thing artitically but probably not commercially. They could fall under, bluegrass, alt Americana/Canadiana, folk, etc.I was thinking traditional country? But I only learned about them because they did Johnny Boy's Bones with Colter Wall and he's def trad country.
I play Dead South's tune",In hell I will be in good company". I tune the banjo in Gm, and can get some really interesting licks from this tuning. If I had a really good bass/ cello, player to play with me, the song would sound great.
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