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Jan 9, 2023 - 5:13:03 AM

538 posts since 7/13/2008

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Originally posted by banjoy

I'd have to respectfully disagree. I hear no banjo at all ... he is diddling with some harmonics which are barely in the mix but you can hear and see what he's doing. Rolling banjo starts around :44. I hear a droning note n the guitar that sounds like it could be banjo, but it's the guitar.

Then when Kyle takes the lead, he kinda gets ahead of himself, ahead of the beat around 2:10 for a few beats, and you can hear and see what he doing which all look live, to me. I guess opinions may vary...


Yeah, and I thought Molly was a little flat on a couple notes in the opening measures. But I'd have to listen to the actual recording to tell for sure.   In any case it's a great song. May bluegrass live long and prosper.  And I kind of thought the glitter was an homage of sorts to the early bands with coordinated suits and the occasional sequins.

Jan 9, 2023 - 6:02:55 AM
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banjoy

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10944 posts since 7/1/2006

Yeah, that's what I mean when I say "organic." Ain't no AutoTuned robots here!

Molly and Billy and this new crop are real, not synthetic, I think folks respond to that, it reaches deep inside, kind of like primordial memory. It goes there.

Edited by - banjoy on 01/09/2023 06:05:20

Jan 9, 2023 - 4:34:27 PM
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77358 posts since 5/9/2007

And we can hear Doc Watson in Billy's playing.

Jan 10, 2023 - 7:53:14 AM
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15183 posts since 10/30/2008

I've never seen Molly live, nor do I know anyone in the band except Bronwyn (from the New England bluegrass scene, and she's a serious BLUEGRASS fiddler). I wish them all the very best. No doubt they're earning their popularity.

This particular band formed a year or so ago, I believe to support Molly's new recording Crooked Tree (which used Nashville session bluegras musicians).

Bronwyn uses a mini-mic on her fiddle instead of a pick up. I agree with the few posters above who've pointed out the use of pick-ups. I only wish their pick ups didn't distort the hard-earned TONE of their instruments. The banjo tone was just awful. Guitar not too good.

I know "it can be done". Anyone who listened to the Marty Stuart show on RFD tv would LOVE to have the tone he got with some kind of a mini-mic on the old Charlie Monroe D45 he played (you could see the wire taped along the fingerboard extension to the sound hole). Bass fiddles have it figured out (usually). Mandolins seem to have accomplished it. Ned Luberecki gets the best amplified banjo tone I've heard.

As a lover of good playing on great sounding instruments, I really wince that amplified bluegrass often sounds like CRAP, no matter how well played, or not.

Bahhhhhhhh! Just the opinion of an old mossy fig with crossed poison oak cluster.

Jan 10, 2023 - 10:21:20 AM

77358 posts since 5/9/2007

I'm not surprised that New York City latenighjt tv might not know much about mixing good banjo tone.It was rather thin.A Jones pickup can be mixed better than that.
The strong response from the audience went a long way toward acceptance.Nice performance,otherwise.

Jan 10, 2023 - 12:11:32 PM
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KCJones

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Well we're a couple pages into another thread about young musicians and amazingly there's been no accusations of satanic worship, ritual sacrifice, or the selling of souls.

So I guess that's an improvement?

Jan 16, 2023 - 4:39:16 AM
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Originally posted by KCJones

Well we're a couple pages into another thread about young musicians and amazingly there's been no accusations of satanic worship, ritual sacrifice, or the selling of souls.

So I guess that's an improvement?


On that point, Billy collected his parents and put them through rehab, and his latest album is with his stepdad (honor thy father and mother). He went through a lot of hell as a kid.  One of my nieces went to school with him, and said he'd just disappear for a couple of weeks, and the kids in his class constantly worried about him. No doubt, that plays into his ability to write songs that touch true emotions, but most people just cave under that experience.  I'd say he's a good argument for redemption.

Jan 16, 2023 - 4:57:38 AM
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538 posts since 7/13/2008

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Originally posted by steve davis

I'm not surprised that New York City latenighjt tv might not know much about mixing good banjo tone.It was rather thin.A Jones pickup can be mixed better than that.
The strong response from the audience went a long way toward acceptance.Nice performance,otherwise.


I was irritated by the sound of the banjo, but I don't think the younger audience cares (or knows) what the acoustic properties would be.  I get tired of the acoustic sound of my banjoes sometimes, so I've got one that I run through a processor.  On the point of being able to hear Doc in Billy String's playing, he is indeed, a fan of Doc.  There are a couple  youtube videos of him expounding on Doc's playing.  If I remember correctly, he was invited to one music festival to give a short seminar on Doc's playing and history.  I could be wrong on this, but I think he gave an interview where he thought he might be distantly related to Doc.

Jan 16, 2023 - 5:39:13 AM
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Eric A

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1687 posts since 10/15/2019

I went to a bluegrass festival last summer, and there was a band that has been in business for a couple of decades, long time banjo player. And he was playing a Deering Goodtime. Sort of validated my theory that if you are all mic'd up, amp'd up, and mixed, why worry about flathead, archtop, tone hoop, thick rim, thin rim, the minutiae of this tone ring or that, this flange or that, this neck or that.

Just mic it properly, and turn the dials just the right way, et viola!

This heresy, if extrapolated, would put a website like BHO right out of business, and bring the prices on Pre-War Gibsons (and all the clones) down considerably.

Jan 16, 2023 - 6:58:59 AM

77358 posts since 5/9/2007

Today's "kids" aren't buying many Flatt and Scruggs albums anymore.They want something new and are responding well.

Jan 16, 2023 - 8:38:41 PM
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209 posts since 11/22/2005

Does anyone know what kind of picks that Kyle uses? He's awesome.
Thanks,
John Lewis

Jan 17, 2023 - 9:32:15 AM
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77358 posts since 5/9/2007

I believe the best combination is to have a traditionally oriented parent/family to learn from and then explore your own tangents.A new direction first needs a solid foundation ala Billy Strings or Molly.

Jan 20, 2023 - 2:26:15 AM
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Helix

USA

16547 posts since 8/30/2006

Molly Tuttle looks like an empowered version of Taylor Swift, except she plays and plays and plays.

Form falls away, content is the cargo.

Some people mow grass, whether green or blue.  Others protect it like it's their own private sod.  then the rain comes and grows everybody, roots get tangled like roots do.

Enjoy the new blossoms, there's a new crop. 


Edited by - Helix on 01/20/2023 02:32:16

Jan 23, 2023 - 2:12:45 PM

6 posts since 1/20/2023

I LOVE what Billy Strings and Molly Tuttle are doing... their musicianship is is beyond amazing. I really enjoy Molly's clawhammer guitar style, when she does that it blows me away, never thought of that before I heard her do it.

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