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Dec 7, 2022 - 5:04:43 AM
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STUD

USA

37330 posts since 3/5/2008
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Me...new perscription pills.....

For when ones life is not worth it annahmore..


The best health systum i tells ya... :0/


 

Dec 7, 2022 - 12:45:15 PM

donc

Canada

7131 posts since 2/9/2010

I thought you could buy those pills at any corner store in the U.S.. They would likely be more expensive here.

Dec 7, 2022 - 2:39:55 PM

STUD

USA

37330 posts since 3/5/2008
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Naw...
Thos perscriptions are free ...
For thos who want to..off themselves... up there.
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Dec 7, 2022 - 2:48:52 PM

chuckv97

Canada

67786 posts since 10/5/2013

Naw, those folks just get sent off on an ice floe up in the Arctic…..

Dec 7, 2022 - 5:35:39 PM

donc

Canada

7131 posts since 2/9/2010

Offing one's self in Canada is against the law. I could never figure out how they ever got anyone to trial for doing that. If they were convicted they would be sent to Inuvik , Northwest Territories..for sure.

Dec 7, 2022 - 7:32:43 PM
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Owen

Canada

12246 posts since 6/5/2011

Some info on suicide in Canada: https://www.suicideinfo.ca/local_resource/faqs/#:~:text=Is%20suicide%20illegal%20in%20Canada,still%20remains%20a%20criminal%20act

My limited understanding of Inuit culture has it that traditionally [pre-European influence?] when they were traveling on the tundra and an individual "couldn't keep up," and if that condition would jeopardize the group,  he/she would be abandoned as the group moved on. I'm no expert, so that is subject to correction/revision, but I recall reading about  a family group on the move that left an infirm "Granny" behind three times. Apparently for three days she was able to catch up after the group had stopped for the nite, but was unable to repeat it on day four.

Edited by - Owen on 12/07/2022 19:34:20

Dec 7, 2022 - 10:48:05 PM

Paul R

Canada

16351 posts since 1/28/2010

I find it ironic that in Canada  "counselling" suicide is an offense, while we have legalized medically assisted suicide. Surely at some point there's "counselling". Of course, the link is from 2015, so things may have changed a bit. What I don't care for is sanitizing it by removing the word "suicide" and referring to it as medically assisted death.

Someone I knew jumped off the Leaside bridge in Toronto, to his death. The doctor had prescribed lithium, but the pharmacist misread the doctor's writing and gave him librium instead.

Dec 8, 2022 - 6:33:28 AM

561 posts since 2/11/2019

I have seen reports that they are trying to make it legal for troubled minors to seek assisted suicide in Canada without parental notification or consent. Also saw where they are encouraging this medically assisted suicide among veterans and indigent people. Are any of you Canadians hearing about this?

Dec 8, 2022 - 7:01:01 AM

Owen

Canada

12246 posts since 6/5/2011

My main gripe with MAID is that it doesn't [didn't??] accommodate a directive (?) made while one is lucid to take effect when certain conditions are met in the future.  To my mind the sanitized version [in comfort and with some semblance of dignity (?) IMNSHumbleO] is preferable over non-sanitized suicide by cop, or jumping in front if a bus, or etc., etc.   Shot? ... medically assisted? ...sanitized?  .... swallowed toilet bowl cleaner*?  ...non-sanitized?  ....self-immolation?   Though I'm no psychologist/sociologist I don't see that making the distinction is particularly harmful, but I'm willing to listen.

I think hanging was the most common method up on the fly-in reserves, but simply and without fanfare "disappearing" out onto a lake in winter wasn't unheard of.

* = or contents of a [hospital] fire extinguisher, as one of the guys that used to play cards down at our seniors center did when he found that the kibosh had essentially been put on his son's visitations.  But, that was keeping us all safe, so it passes muster, I suppose.

Edited by - Owen on 12/08/2022 07:18:42

Dec 8, 2022 - 8:20:14 AM

Owen

Canada

12246 posts since 6/5/2011

Anthony, I've heard about the situation with a few (?) veterans, but my understanding is that "they"  is an individual [or maybe those in one office] who had overstepped his/their authority and the scope of the regulations/policy.  I haven't heard about "it" being offered to / proposed for indigent people or troubled youth.  However I could be wrong, as for the most part I let news (?) come to me rather than seeking it out, but as you've now piqued my interest ..... 

Dec 8, 2022 - 8:24:50 AM

ChunoTheDog

Canada

2015 posts since 8/9/2019

With the economy up here, they should offer MAID to all of us low income folks.

I'd gladly take the option over a lifetime of low wages n being taxed to death with zero in return.

Dec 8, 2022 - 8:28:06 AM
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ChunoTheDog

Canada

2015 posts since 8/9/2019

quote:
Originally posted by Mad Hornet

I have seen reports that they are trying to make it legal for troubled minors to seek assisted suicide in Canada without parental notification or consent. Also saw where they are encouraging this medically assisted suicide among veterans and indigent people. Are any of you Canadians hearing about this?


Yes I've heard that too. But haven't seen any concrete evidence. But it would not surprise me as the federal Trudeau gov has been out trying to kill us all off since day 1 between artificially increasing our energy prices by 200% and printing so much money to send abroad that people here making 30k/year have to live in tents outside.

Canada's the greatest country on earth LOL

Dec 8, 2022 - 8:39:58 AM
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chuckv97

Canada

67786 posts since 10/5/2013

We in conservative, redneck-infested Alberta have gas at $1.22 per litre,, a big gub’m’nt discount on our energy bill, and our new “sovereignty-act” premier is dishing out $600 to all us seniors and other poor slobs. Methinks she’s trying to get elected in the spring election….
As for killing myself cuz things ain’t like they used to be, I just look back at what the huge ups and downs were for my parents and grandparents who rarely (by our standards) had a pot to p**s in but were fairly happy nonetheless.
Maybe too many spoiled cry-babies nowadays, right Owen….?

Dec 8, 2022 - 9:03:59 AM
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561 posts since 2/11/2019

All my life I've been around people who were "never give up" types and encouraged the same in others. I cannot fathom this especially with minors.

Chuck I know what you mean. My 95 year old grandmother has told me many times about growing up during the Great Depression. She's had breast cancer, broken wrists, broken hips, lost all her siblings and two husbands, in a wheelchair and in a dementia wing at a nursing home to boot. She's still kicking and is so happy every time I go see her.

Dec 8, 2022 - 9:06:34 AM
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Owen

Canada

12246 posts since 6/5/2011

Spoiled crybabies aren't the problem.... it's "irresponsible idiots"  and "a fringe minority with unacceptable views" who pose a far  g-r-e-a-t-e-r  threat.  Since both those assessments were aimed at me........ ??   Ah well, might as well just wander out onto Lake Of The Prairies.... 'cept that might not be practical/feasible/??? given foot neuropathy and assorted other infirmities.  sad  Maybe MAID will be all sorted out should I need it down the road.  

I've read where AB's sovereignty act does nothing that hasn't been available to the provinces all along.  The article I read gave the example of how Wynne's [insert verboten word] simply refused to enforce federal legislation of which they disapproved. Maybe the publicity is more problematic than any actual action/inaction???

Edit: Anthony, I don't dismiss/downplay the stuff that has afflicted your grandmother, however to me "so happy" is THE salient feature.  I'm not aware of anybody favoring MAID for stuff that our  [world class?] medical system can [adequately] manage/cure/take care of/"fix"/???.

Edit #2:  Re. things not being like they were in the past.... my mom periodically would haaarrumph: "The good old days?? ... you can have them."  

Edit #3 [the last one, you have my word]: Re. infestation.... is AB still actually rat-free?  cheeky

Edited by - Owen on 12/08/2022 09:20:30

Dec 8, 2022 - 9:53:48 AM
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chuckv97

Canada

67786 posts since 10/5/2013

I’m sorry to hear that you’re still taking Boy Trudeau’s pronouncements personally, Owen. My view from here is that he meant the Pat Kings and Tara Litch’s of the world.
As far as rats in Alberta, there is a rat patrol along the Saskabush border. Not since Peter Klima scored that long overtime gal has there been a rat sighted in the Wild Rose Province,,,, not counting Matthew Tkachuk, that is….

Dec 8, 2022 - 10:05:07 AM

mander

USA

5037 posts since 10/7/2007

quote:
Originally posted by STUD

Me...new perscription pills.....

For when ones life is not worth it annahmore..


The best health systum i tells ya... :0/


Sorry you are feeling poorly. I think you know you'll be missed. I assume Liz will keep us posted.

Dec 8, 2022 - 10:15:45 AM
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Owen

Canada

12246 posts since 6/5/2011

Chuck, if JT had meant PK and TL , then PK and TL would simply have been dealt with under existing legislation; there would have been no need to invoke the emergencies act.   His assessment was without a doubt aimed at the hundreds of thousands [possibly millions??] who supported the idea behind the convoy ... otherwise he wouldn't have stayed in hiding when requests were made* for him to speak to the "fringe minority."  [... a couple of timely/orchestrated bouts with that which shall remain unmentionable notwithstanding].

Freezing bank accounts in the absence of due process???   Sounds kosher to me [cough. hack, cough, splutter].

Take it personally???  It doesn't bother me to call a spade a spade.... facts is facts.  [I'm guessing that the "sorry" you offer up is a Canadian sorry.  wink ]

P.S. The rat patrol provides a workable/successful (?)  template, no?

Edit: * = a brother of mine worked  for  [well at least was paid by wink] the Federal Dept. Agric.   He justified JT's not meeting with: "You can't  just show up and expect to meet with him.... these things have to be arranged months ahead of time."   [Like there was no prior knowledge anybody was enroute!?!!?!?   Otoh, I recall somebody on BHO poof-poohing it as a few semis driving around Kingston or Kitchener or ???.]

Edited by - Owen on 12/08/2022 10:33:43

Dec 8, 2022 - 10:33:11 AM
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chuckv97

Canada

67786 posts since 10/5/2013

I wholeheartedly disagree, and I’m no JT fan, btw. There were nefarious elements behind the convoy,, they had their time to make their point in Ottawa,, freezing bank accounts to stop the funding from nefarious sources is part of the Emrgny Act, as far as I know. Too bad “normal” folks were swept into the wide net. Anyway, we hashed ! this out many moons ago so I’ll not belabour the issue henceforth.

edit : oh, pardon me, I must answer the 1/one question you posed, just to be respectful..... the answer is "I'm not sure". 

Edited by - chuckv97 on 12/08/2022 10:35:41

Dec 8, 2022 - 10:36:11 AM
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banjo bill-e

Tuvalu

12708 posts since 2/22/2007

----"I find it ironic that in Canada "counselling" suicide is an offense, while we have legalized medically assisted suicide.--"

Not ironic, just practical. There is no money in suicide, while MAID seems to be an exciting new profit center for Canadian healthcare. Not to mention such a handy solution to the rising cost of treating those pesky seniors! And even those whiney depressed teenagers. Win Win!

Dec 8, 2022 - 10:38:33 AM
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chuckv97

Canada

67786 posts since 10/5/2013

JT has in the past been accused of setting up “Death Panels” , 'course that came from members of His Majesty's Royal Opposition ;  Petey Pollyever and his ilk...

Edited by - chuckv97 on 12/08/2022 10:40:32

Dec 8, 2022 - 10:42:36 AM

Owen

Canada

12246 posts since 6/5/2011

I don't think I ever denied the existence of nefarious elements. Why not deal with the nefarious elements separately from the hundreds of thousands [or possibly millions] of "normal" folks?  It was JT who swept them/us/me/?? into one entity..... due entirely to them/us/me not agreeing with his approach to that which shan't be mentioned.

I think there were a lot of non-nefarious sources that had their bank accounts frozen.

Re: ... just to be respectful.... IMNSHumbleO my asking a question needn't be the impetus.   Fwiw, I seem to recall a fair bit of I'm not sure, and I haven't read all about it, and I don't know about the situation in MB, etc., etc., etc. wink

Edit: But I gotta confess, I'm not sure what the purpose of: "Maybe too many spoiled cry-babies nowadays, right Owen….?" was/is.   

Edited by - Owen on 12/08/2022 10:57:09

Dec 8, 2022 - 11:02:02 AM
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chuckv97

Canada

67786 posts since 10/5/2013

Easier and cheaper to cast a wide net and “get the bums outta town” than trying to root out and separate the thugs from the normies, which would have taken months of gum-shoeing and foot-dragging. Too bad good folks sending money to bolster the “occupation” didn’t sniff out the thugs behind the scenes,, ya win some, ya lose some. I heard, though, that things were rectified money-wise later on,, but, but, I’m not sure,, didn’t look into it closely,, just heard a blurb on the radio ,, no time for serious research, etc.

oops, another query while I was typing - the answer is "a humorous dig relating to a previous, months-ago back-and-forth about crybabies...."

Edited by - chuckv97 on 12/08/2022 11:04:38

Dec 8, 2022 - 11:07:01 AM
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Owen

Canada

12246 posts since 6/5/2011

And now I'm getting e-mail notifications that posts have been made to this thread...along with an opportunity to "un-subscribe."  What the ?!?!?!?  I hadn't subscribed!!!   At the risk of sounding like a broken record.... What the ?!?!?!?   Maybe I should post this into Grandpa5's thread about CRA (?) pfishing scams!?!?!?   

... must be time for some TIMTIMing, I figure.

From the news (?) we got. the identities of the thugs were public knowledge lng before the convoy got to Ottawa.... what's to gum-shoe or root out?   [I remember Gen. Tone* from the back-and-forth, but the crybabies reference doesn't ring any bell.]

* = Gen.??  ...  that's army isn't it? ... or another branch? .... in any event isn't he now retired?

Edited by - Owen on 12/08/2022 11:15:11

Dec 8, 2022 - 11:16:33 AM

chuckv97

Canada

67786 posts since 10/5/2013

Owen, methinks you either accidentally clicked the subscribe button,, or Eric is up to his old tricks to garner more hits.
When I go to the games section and click on a game it takes me to a blank page and I have to click “previous page”,, another crafty ploy by our fearless leader, CEO. (just joshing, Eric,,,, gulp)

Dec 8, 2022 - 11:24:49 AM

Owen

Canada

12246 posts since 6/5/2011

Link to an article re. veterans being offered MAID ... from what's come to light so far it seems to trace back to one "caseworker": https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/veterans-maid-rcmp-investigation-1.6663885

[Haven't searched long and hard, but so far nothing re. troubled (?) youth has jumped out at me.]

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