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Oct 4, 2022 - 4:37:28 PM

Slogo

USA

35 posts since 7/28/2022

I did well with my B grade Recording King Rk35, minimal setup and no discernable blemishes. As a beginner I am fairly hard on the frets, so wanted another daily player. I bought a broken neck Morgan Monroe DB9 Duelington. The neck was a easy fix because it was a long break, and I just had to extend the black sunburst another 1 1/2 inch's to cover the repair. What a lemon, or lack of quality control.

1 On the headstock the name Morgan looks like iiorgan because the inlay was damaged before clear coated.

2 The shoe bolt holes are drilled in the wrong spot on the rim, so the nuts only grab 2 - 3 threads on the hooks. I already lost 2 nuts from falling off. Can’t find 2 ¾ inch hooks to fix.

3 When the rim was drilled for the neck or the neck was forced on after the finish was applied, a huge blow out of wood the size of a quarter on each hole.

4 The washer for the upper coordinator rod is overlapping the tone ring.

5 The tension ring is binding on the neck.

6 They ran out of Frisbees at the factory and used the poly coated rims. Mine has a huge mashed spot on the rim and de-lamed finish

7 I had to epoxy 2 of the 4 resonator nut inserts.

8 The cut out on the resonator for the heel of the neck is 5/8 too deep so they glued 6 layers of felt to cover the hole

9 After the rim was poly coated, they had to fit the tone ring. It looks like a dremel was used and tore off huge jagged chips of finish. Maybe Fred Flintstone used his chisel.

10 The dies that stamped the resonator ring are so rough that you can de-scale a fish with the back of the resonator ring. Don’t put your fingers near there.

The head, bridge, neck nut, tail piece. Coordinator rods and truss rod adjustments were expected. There are probably some very nice Morgan Monroe’s, but mine was not one of them. I am going to try to make a decent player out of it, it will be my ugly duckling.

Oct 4, 2022 - 5:19:26 PM
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beegee

USA

23120 posts since 7/6/2005

Early MM banjos were fairly consistent. The later ones I have seen are
"iffy."

Oct 4, 2022 - 5:34:32 PM

Slogo

USA

35 posts since 7/28/2022

The Chinese companies are known for exploiting their employees. These defects are so blatant I think someone was disgruntled. Maybe it was a do or die deadline catchup from COVID shutdowns.

Oct 4, 2022 - 5:35:38 PM
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5499 posts since 8/31/2006

I think a lot of early Asian banjos were made in Korea, and noticed a big change when they went to China not going to mention names cause someone will get their feelings hurt, but some “ set up” in USA ive seen without even bridges on in some shops, could probably shoot an arrow as well

Pay for what you get

Oct 4, 2022 - 5:48:16 PM

banjonz

New Zealand

11630 posts since 6/29/2003

quote:
Originally posted by Slogo

The Chinese companies are known for exploiting their employees. These defects are so blatant I think someone was disgruntled. Maybe it was a do or die deadline catchup from COVID shutdowns.


Or perhaps some workers were being vindictive and deliberately being sloppy as a way of getting back against thier employer? 

Oct 4, 2022 - 6:01:16 PM
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Slogo

USA

35 posts since 7/28/2022

Life can change quickly, Hyper Sport bikes have been my passion since my teenage years. I always thought I would end it in a 180 mph crash. Now the company I worked for had a hostile buy-out forcing my retirement, then my wife had 4 heart surgeries wiping out our saving. Instead of 100 miles per day of 2 wheeling, I have 2 Rottweilers I babysit and do a lot of house work for the wife. I picked up a banjo to learn something new even tho my past music was 14000 rpm. Cheap banjos are must for now, but I found out that I can use my bike setup skills on the banjos.

Oct 4, 2022 - 6:20:46 PM
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638 posts since 3/9/2013

Mike, you got it right. A better banjo would obviously be easier but we do with what we have. Banjos are tinkerable and lend themselves well to tweaking. Sorry life swung at you. Make music with what you have and use your skills to make them more playable. Good luck to you and yours.

Oct 4, 2022 - 7:52:49 PM

thor363

USA

85 posts since 12/12/2021

quote:
Originally posted by Slogo

Life can change quickly, Hyper Sport bikes have been my passion since my teenage years. I always thought I would end it in a 180 mph crash. Now the company I worked for had a hostile buy-out forcing my retirement, then my wife had 4 heart surgeries wiping out our saving. Instead of 100 miles per day of 2 wheeling, I have 2 Rottweilers I babysit and do a lot of house work for the wife. I picked up a banjo to learn something new even tho my past music was 14000 rpm. Cheap banjos are must for now, but I found out that I can use my bike setup skills on the banjos.

So I'm not the only one here with a 200mph Super-sport passion! gave up my modified ZX-14 when I came to TN, and picked up the banjo only recently. 2 Akitas and working from home, so the dogs get to be my audience more often than not. :) Iowa had lots of long divided highways, but here in TN these back roads are a recipe for road rash at the least. I see a lot of squids here...no gear, and no respect for their situation. Oh well, pick faster!


Oct 4, 2022 - 8:06:50 PM

Slogo

USA

35 posts since 7/28/2022

To Thor363: Yes, Kawi's were my favorites. Dropped a gear to pass a semi and hit triples digits before I could back off. Hit by state police radar. Made a decision, no more Super Sports on the road.

Oct 4, 2022 - 8:13 PM

Slogo

USA

35 posts since 7/28/2022

Oh, by the way. Had a nice talk with the state police and he gave me a warning, lesson learned.

Oct 4, 2022 - 10:29:08 PM

5499 posts since 8/31/2006

93 zx1100 here

Still scares me

Wicked fast

Pus the cbr1k to shame honestly

Oct 4, 2022 - 11:06:46 PM

2553 posts since 2/4/2013

Other "brands" using the same factory (and same banjos) have said that the main problem was quality control.

Oct 4, 2022 - 11:28:24 PM
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643 posts since 2/5/2014

quote:
Originally posted by thor363
quote:
Originally posted by Slogo

 so the dogs get to be my audience more often than not. :) 


 


When I play my banjo, my schnauzer runs in circles near my chair. I get the feeling she doesn't approve of the sound! 
One afternoon when I was practicing, I heard a strange noise out front. When I peered out the window I saw a full grown moose staring back at me. I suppose he didn't like banjo music either...

Life can change in an instant. My husband had a massive stroke a few years back, and I retired to be his caretaker. I play both banjo and guitar, and after he goes to bed at night, I have time to play music. It not only makes me happy, but is also a stress reliever. Thank goodness! 

Oct 5, 2022 - 2:39:37 AM

martyjoe

Ireland

217 posts since 3/24/2020

I used to keep my 180mph activities to wide a open space. As I was approaching my 3000th skydive I had a life changing thump with planet earth. So now I play banjo & started making banjo. The good’ol banjo can be a saviour for some of us.

Oct 5, 2022 - 5:21:17 AM

Slogo

USA

35 posts since 7/28/2022

Hello TallJoey, I see you are in Sandpoint ID. What a small world, We were in Hayden Lake ID near you before I retired. Miss the mountains. Yes I agree playing the banjo can re-charge you after a stressful day.

The Morgan is starting to sound fairly good, still need to re-fit the neck. Doesn't have the same depth as the Recording King, but not too bad. Working at different ways to blend the clear coat so to fix the cosmetic blems. The hook problem will have to wait until I can find a source for 2.75 or 3 inch hooks. I must be a glutton for punishment, just bought a Ibanez broken neck for 120. I want to see what I can do with it and compare it's tone ring and sound.

Oct 5, 2022 - 5:48:14 AM

Slogo

USA

35 posts since 7/28/2022

Hello Martyjoe, glad you survived and have another worthwhile challenge. I am not sure why we get addicted to speed. I lost some friends and deep down knew they at risk. I started to lose control on a corner, and remembered my instructor's words "don't panic - trust the bike" so pushed a little harder and stayed on the apex. I must say looking back, at a certain point it's time to quit.

Oct 5, 2022 - 6:58:24 AM
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wizofos

USA

6326 posts since 8/19/2012

Mike not sure how this thread drifted from MM banjo issues to bikes but Oh well. I have a MM banjo and have had good luck with the company. My understanding is that they have a lifetime warrantee and when I needed a part they were helpful.
Suggest you contact them about the parts. I don't know if you bought this new or used but suggest you talk to them and see what they will do to assist you.
I believe that Guitar Center is a dealer for Morgan Monroe and if you have a local store they might be able to give you a company contact.
I have a contact number somewhere but need to look for it so if you contact me privately I will see if I can find it and let you know how to contact them.

Oct 5, 2022 - 7:11:32 AM

4342 posts since 3/28/2008

quote:
Originally posted by thor363
quote:
Originally posted by Slogo

Life can change quickly, Hyper Sport bikes have been my passion since my teenage years. I always thought I would end it in a 180 mph crash. Now the company I worked for had a hostile buy-out forcing my retirement, then my wife had 4 heart surgeries wiping out our saving. Instead of 100 miles per day of 2 wheeling, I have 2 Rottweilers I babysit and do a lot of house work for the wife. I picked up a banjo to learn something new even tho my past music was 14000 rpm. Cheap banjos are must for now, but I found out that I can use my bike setup skills on the banjos.

So I'm not the only one here with a 200mph Super-sport passion! gave up my modified ZX-14 when I came to TN, and picked up the banjo only recently. 2 Akitas and working from home, so the dogs get to be my audience more often than not. :) Iowa had lots of long divided highways, but here in TN these back roads are a recipe for road rash at the least. I see a lot of squids here...no gear, and no respect for their situation. Oh well, pick faster!


 


I don't know if you're a Danny Paisley fan, but his banjo player, Mark Delaney, is a rider and a professional motorcycle mechanic. I think he's more a road guy than a high-speed guy, though.

Oct 5, 2022 - 8:16:51 AM

Slogo

USA

35 posts since 7/28/2022

Thanks for the help wizofos. I did try to contact MM thru their web page. To submit a claim I needed a serial number. Can't find one on the banjo. Bought as a shipping damaged broken neck from at a different music store than the one you mentioned . I am guessing they pulled the S#. Even though the manufacturing defects have nothing to do with the broken neck, I am guessing the warranty is voided.

Oct 5, 2022 - 9:10:59 AM

Slogo

USA

35 posts since 7/28/2022

Sorry I got off topic here.

Oct 5, 2022 - 4:42:55 PM

Owen

Canada

11896 posts since 6/5/2011
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I can only speak about one other MM ... my 10ish year old MNB-1W.   It's not the loudest/fullest/??? sound around, but I'm well-satisfied with the quality-cost ratio.    The fact that it stays in tune very well is noteworthy [no pun intended] for me.  yes

Oct 7, 2022 - 12:17:12 PM

44 posts since 10/13/2011

Wow. Sorry to hear this. I have a MM open back scoop neck that went through the 2016 flood in Louisiana. The finish on the neck cracked and peeled but the banjo still plays well. Also an MMB-1 I believe is the model. It also went through the flood.
Fully submerged for at least 24 hours….
I disassembled it, dried slowly and it’s still kicking.
I guess I got lucky.?.!.

Oct 7, 2022 - 2:50:33 PM

1682 posts since 4/29/2013

Slogo

I'd say you got a Monday/Friday special.

I probably have one of the last Luxmore models made. It was my second banjo and first open back. It's been my main player all this time. I got it new in 2009 and was told that model had just been discontinued. I later read that around that time they moved their factory from Korea to China, and those lacking serial numbers were made after the move. Mine happens to be one of those. Other than a couple minor cosmetic things here and there, it's been a good one, and I feel it was meant to be. It's brought me a lot of enjoyment and compliments.

I looked up their website and couldn't locate it. Have they went out of business? Last I looked they only offered a couple banjos, mostly resonator models and a low-end open back.

Edited by - Noah Cline on 10/07/2022 14:52:05

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