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Oct 4, 2022 - 3:50:55 PM
1328 posts since 11/9/2012

I have been advised I'm struggling with timing issues when I attempt jamming to backing tracks already on You Tube. I can't hear the problem at all in my song post this last time, so it must really really be bad. It's always "Back to the Drawing Board" for me. laugh But I never give up on playing banjo as I have too much of my life already tied up in this hobby. I will keep on trying until I die. 

Members have advised me to practice with a metronome, and I admit I never have worked with one for any real length of time. I don't need anything fancy or expensive, just something that others have already purchased and tested. lol... I always ask folks here such questions as I hate paying $$ for what turns out to be junk. I see Amazon has a ton of these devices, but some cost well over $100, and that's a little too high for me right now.

Thanks.
Terry

Oct 4, 2022 - 3:55:56 PM

1328 posts since 11/9/2012

Would this one be ok? $26 I can afford. lol! wink

Edited by - Toothless in Kentucky on 10/04/2022 15:56:21

Oct 4, 2022 - 3:57:22 PM
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1 posts since 10/3/2022

I have one on my phone that real works well

Oct 4, 2022 - 4:01:16 PM
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DWFII

USA

512 posts since 1/9/2022

FWIW, there are several digital metronome apps that work well and cost zero $.Some of them even work on your phone.

I use Asperion Metronome on my computer and it looks like a metronome and sounds like a metronome and i practice with it every day.

Oct 4, 2022 - 4:06:32 PM

1328 posts since 11/9/2012

Wow, here is a metronome in a smart watch that has lights and a vibration feature. This might be cool because I almost always use headphones. This might be the answer, but it's price is a bit high.

Oct 4, 2022 - 4:07:51 PM

1328 posts since 11/9/2012

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Originally posted by DWFII

FWIW, there are several digital metronome apps that work well and cost zero $.Some of them even work on your phone.

I use Asperion Metronome on my computer and it looks like a metronome and sounds like a metronome and i practice with it every day.


Wow, I never even thought about using my phone! Thanks guys! 

Oct 4, 2022 - 4:30:30 PM
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BobbyE

USA

3161 posts since 11/29/2007

I downloaded one for free off the web. Just google ‘free metronome,’ and download one.
Once you get the hang of practicing with one you might consider purchasing one.

Bobby

Oct 4, 2022 - 4:58:12 PM

1328 posts since 11/9/2012

Ok, currently we are looking at this metronome app for Android. It says it has in app purchases, so I'm not sure exactly how they profit from this program. I guess the app tries to sell ya stuff for $$. 

Thanks 4 the help.

Oct 4, 2022 - 5:09:56 PM

2158 posts since 11/17/2018

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Originally posted by Toothless in Kentucky

It says it has in app purchases,


https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/1061913?hl=en

Oct 4, 2022 - 5:25:48 PM
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beegee

USA

23120 posts since 7/6/2005

I have a variety of metronome and metronome apps. I use a free one on my iPhone. I have a tuner app as well and chord builder apps

Oct 4, 2022 - 5:30:54 PM
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Bill H

USA

2014 posts since 11/7/2010

I use Tonal Energy Tuner. It costs a few dollars, but I hate the free ones that have adds. I also find it helpful to use bluetooth ear buds with you tube or the metronome so I can hear it clearly.

Oct 4, 2022 - 5:34 PM
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71 posts since 12/2/2020

phone ones are good and you should have one as well as a tuner at times youll need it, but sometimes there not loud enough, and you will often get distracted and stop to mess with your phone

it is good to have a small digital one, 10$ is enough sabine zipbeat. its great, if you get a analog one its a cool desk feature to keep on the table like a sculpture there cool, but they actually have inaccuracys youtube videos demonstrate that. get a cheap digital one for optimal practice. in the mean time apps are helpful.

Oct 4, 2022 - 5:44:47 PM
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12417 posts since 10/27/2006

I use the Pro Metronome app. Yes, there are in-app purchases but I've never needed them so free it is.

Besides many rhythm patterns and any tempi, it has Tap Tempo where I tap along with the song and it displays the tempo—never exact because my finger tapping isn't—but darned close and I can refine it from there. All of this in the free version.

Oct 4, 2022 - 5:53:03 PM
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1328 posts since 11/9/2012

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Originally posted by Bill H

I use Tonal Energy Tuner. It costs a few dollars, but I hate the free ones that have adds. I also find it helpful to use bluetooth ear buds with you tube or the metronome so I can hear it clearly.


Thanks for the link, Bill. I like the looks of this one as it has no advertisements and only costs $3.99. I don't mind paying $4 for a metronome app that has no in app purchases, or advertisements. I think this will work if I can pipe the sound of the beat into some headphones, which ' should not be problem that I can see. 

Oct 4, 2022 - 5:55:19 PM

1328 posts since 11/9/2012

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I use the Pro Metronome app. Yes, there are in-app purchases but I've never needed them so free it is.

Besides many rhythm patterns and any tempi, it has Tap Tempo where I tap along with the song and it displays the tempo—never exact because my finger tapping isn't—but darned close and I can refine it from there. All of this in the free version.


I really do like the looks of this app. It's got a nice setup. 

Oct 4, 2022 - 6:58:41 PM
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AGACNP

USA

361 posts since 10/12/2011
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There are several free ones available, as has been noted. I have a couple on my iPhone I never use.

I actually bought (rarity for me) the Tempo app (maybe $3-4 bucks) by “Frozen Ape” and haven’t found it lacking for anything, it’s the only one I’ve used the past few months. There are no in app purchases with it.

Ive got a cheapie Bluetooth speaker to pipe it to so this hard of hearing guy can hear it over the banjo.

Edited by - AGACNP on 10/04/2022 19:04:18

Oct 4, 2022 - 7:41:57 PM
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182 posts since 8/31/2015

The Soundcorset Tuner/Metronome app (free) is great. It's a versatile and free tuner and metronome. I use the "tuning fork" feature with adjustable octaves all the time to tune by ear, it's great. It also works in solfege mode (do, re, mi...) if you're into that. The metronome is super versatile with different meters, adjustable tones and click locations, and tap tempo, all for free.

Oct 4, 2022 - 7:45:24 PM

2158 posts since 11/17/2018

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Originally posted by TreyDBanjoKS

The Soundcorset Tuner/Metronome app (free) is great. It's a versatile and free tuner and metronome. I use the "tuning fork" feature with adjustable octaves all the time to tune by ear, it's great. It also works in solfege mode (do, re, mi...) if you're into that. The metronome is super versatile with different meters, adjustable tones and click locations, and tap tempo, all for free.


Soundcorset Tuner, Metronome, and Recorder

Oct 4, 2022 - 9:22:43 PM
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My stock answer for mac users:
Instead of the 200 year old technology of the metronome I would like to recommend an iPhone app to learn how to have perfect timing. In my years of teaching I've found of course that some people have a good sense of rhythm and some don't. The need to stay in time never goes away once you can actually play your instrument. Now most people with a good sense of timing don't even need to know about eighth notes as opposed to sixteenth notes etc. They can just feel it. On the other hand I've had students who could play a whole song note for note but with bad timing and it just makes for a train wreck when others try to play along! Anyway getting back to this app, that by the way is called RHYTHM SIGHT READING $3.99, I've had great success with it fixing students timing problems. And the beauty of it is that at the same time it teaches how to read all different rhythm notation symbols that you could come across in tablature or standard notation. This also helps those that have a great sense of rhythm but can't play off of written music because they can't figure out these timing symbols, this app fixes that. The thing that is amazing is that it tests you on your accuracy with a visual report up to a tenth of a second. You can also learn to play ahead or behind the beat for that drive or laid back feel. Finally another thing, it has is infinite patience which I do not possess.

Oct 5, 2022 - 6:39:16 AM
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jem327

USA

38 posts since 4/25/2018

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Originally posted by Toothless in Kentucky

Ok, currently we are looking at this metronome app for Android. It says it has in app purchases, so I'm not sure exactly how they profit from this program. I guess the app tries to sell ya stuff for $$. 

Thanks 4 the help.


That's the one I use. It's got lots of features you can pay for but the metronome part is totally free.

Oct 5, 2022 - 6:55:49 AM
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RB3

USA

1490 posts since 4/12/2004

I've been using a metronome for 50 years. For many years, I used an inexpensive, electronic, Qwik Time unit that worked very well. But now, I'm using a cell phone metronome app and it's the best system I've ever used. I use the cell phone app in combination with a wireless ear bud. The ear bud and the volume control feature on the metronome app allows you to make the metronome as loud as you want, so that the loudness of the banjo doesn't drown out the sound of click. The app also has other sounds that can be substituted for the click if you prefer. You have to buy ear buds, but the cell phone metronome apps are free. I use an app on my Android phone named "Simple Metronome", but there are many others that are available for free.

Edited by - RB3 on 10/05/2022 06:59:58

Oct 5, 2022 - 8:12:58 AM
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1965 posts since 2/9/2007

I really like the "pendulum" on Pro Metronome. It's more like a conductor's baton, as it syncs the beat with the end of each swing, which to me makes for a much clearer visual definition of the SPACE BETWEEN THE BEATS (which is actually what you're trying to measure, and to feel!) than does a mechanical metronome, which clicks just past the middle of the swing.

Oct 5, 2022 - 2:49:20 PM

1328 posts since 11/9/2012

Thanks for all the suggestions folks. I went with the Tonal Energy Tuner/Metronome app for $3.99. It actually has some features that are really cool and I never expected. Already I'm wondering how I got along without one of these for so many years.

Edited by - Toothless in Kentucky on 10/05/2022 14:49:51

Oct 5, 2022 - 2:55:19 PM

1328 posts since 11/9/2012

quote:
Originally posted by RB3

I've been using a metronome for 50 years. For many years, I used an inexpensive, electronic, Qwik Time unit that worked very well. But now, I'm using a cell phone metronome app and it's the best system I've ever used. I use the cell phone app in combination with a wireless ear bud. The ear bud and the volume control feature on the metronome app allows you to make the metronome as loud as you want, so that the loudness of the banjo doesn't drown out the sound of click. The app also has other sounds that can be substituted for the click if you prefer. You have to buy ear buds, but the cell phone metronome apps are free. I use an app on my Android phone named "Simple Metronome", but there are many others that are available for free.


Thanks for the suggestion! As I only have one good ear, I think I might get away with using a click in an earbud and a larger headphone over the same ear for the microphone/music. I was seeking a vibrating feature for a smart watch device, but the only good ones cost over $200... And I'm not too keen on using a vibrating feature on a cellphone app... As I assume the vibrations will be almost constant with some time signatures and I'm advised it's not good for a phone to vibrate this much of the time, and of course the battery must get ate up. So your earbud idea sounds like a winner. 

Edited by - Toothless in Kentucky on 10/05/2022 15:01:59

Oct 5, 2022 - 7:17:45 PM
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Fathand

Canada

12053 posts since 2/7/2008

The important thing is that you can hear it while you are playing banjo. I know a guy plugs an electronic metronome into a bass amp. I can never hear my mechanical ones over my banjo like I would a bass player next to me.

I suppose I could mute the banjo but then all the banjo dynamics are gone and it sounds like a dobro.

Oct 7, 2022 - 5:30:29 AM
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3040 posts since 12/4/2009

Hello,

I like the Soundbrenner method of attaching the metronome to your body. Feeling the beat is easier than just hearing the beat.

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