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Oct 1, 2022 - 8:35:49 AM
5 posts since 10/1/2022

trying to find out info on this 19 fret Orpheum banjo only number in the resonator is number #5 trying to find a date on this


Oct 1, 2022 - 8:53:42 AM

56 posts since 1/18/2022

More pictures.
Inside.
Outside.
Up close and personal.

My guess, inexpensive.
Ubiquitous Asian made.

Experts to follow....

Oct 1, 2022 - 8:55:38 AM

5 posts since 10/1/2022

thank you

Oct 1, 2022 - 9:17:26 AM
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1970 posts since 2/9/2007

quote:
Originally posted by Peg Leg

More pictures.
Inside.
Outside.
Up close and personal.

My guess, inexpensive.
Ubiquitous Asian made.

Experts to follow....


Agree on need for more photos, but I'd say that's a US-made Kay of ~1950's vintage.  The Orpheum name has been used by many manufacturers over the years, on instruments of all grades.  

One step above the cheapest available at the time.  Being a tenor (rather than a 5-stringer), you'd be lucky to get $200 for it, even in excellent shape.

Oct 1, 2022 - 9:20:59 AM
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1658 posts since 4/13/2009

Based on the flange, it appears to be Kay/Stromberg-Voisinet. Interior pictures would reveal neck attachment and assist in dating ( 30's to 50's). Picture of peghead is inadequate for a decision - maybe another part. "Orpheum" has been used by multiple companies.

Oct 1, 2022 - 9:58:51 AM

4659 posts since 5/29/2011

The knurled thumb screws holding the resonator on suggest that it is a Kay. I don't think Stromberg-Voisinet ever used those. The peghead is not visible enough to make a more educated ID as to era. 1950's sounds reasonable. It is not Asian made.

Oct 1, 2022 - 10:26:34 AM

56 posts since 1/18/2022

I knew the experts were coming!

Oct 1, 2022 - 10:53 AM

5 posts since 10/1/2022

thank you everyone i will post a few more photos to give a better vew of the in and outs of this Banjo thanks once more !

Oct 1, 2022 - 10:59:40 AM
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10153 posts since 8/28/2013

Made by Kay, probably in the 1950s.

Oct 1, 2022 - 11:32:56 AM

5 posts since 10/1/2022

here is a few more photos hope this will help to date this and the tone ring is brass if that helps once more thank you all for the help !


Oct 1, 2022 - 1:49:27 PM

beegee

USA

23127 posts since 7/6/2005

Orpheum trade name was bought in 1944 and first used on Kay guitars in 1944. This banjo probably dates to roughly the same period, up through the late 50's-early 60's.

Oct 1, 2022 - 3:38:08 PM

10153 posts since 8/28/2013

I don't think you're seeing a tone ring. It is probably just a brass hoop in there, like what is found in many student to medium grade banjos.

I once owned a Kay-made Orpheum 5 string. It was much better than it had any right to be. Just a brass hoop in that one.

Kay did make some banjos with tone rings, but as far as I know, they were never sold as "Orpheums." I've forgotten the the player whose name was used to market them.

Oct 1, 2022 - 5:11:24 PM

5 posts since 10/1/2022

thank you Sir still learning its a hole new world for me lol

Oct 3, 2022 - 1:41:10 PM

12427 posts since 10/27/2006

quote:
Originally posted by G Edward Porgie

I don't think you're seeing a tone ring. It is probably just a brass hoop in there, like what is found in many student to medium grade banjos.

I once owned a Kay-made Orpheum 5 string. It was much better than it had any right to be. Just a brass hoop in that one.

Kay did make some banjos with tone rings, but as far as I know, they were never sold as "Orpheums." I've forgotten the the player whose name was used to market them.


You're thinking of the Kay Jose Silva Banjos. Those had 30 brackets instead of 20 like the OP. Also, the resonator was deeper.

Oct 3, 2022 - 2:22:08 PM

10153 posts since 8/28/2013

I thought the name was Silva, but hesitated to submit that if my memory had it wrong. Also, I could not recall thr fist name (odd, considering I've known several people named Jose, including my stepfather). The so-called "Orpheum" I owned, although not a Silva, did have the deep resonator. It was nicely made.

Oct 3, 2022 - 2:49:26 PM

59711 posts since 12/14/2005

Just a side note:
Look at the SIZE of the TV camera in the old ad!

When I first started installing security devices for my nephew-in-law's company, I was amazed to discover that a color TV camera can be as small as the eraser on a #2 pencil!

Oct 3, 2022 - 6:56:55 PM
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10153 posts since 8/28/2013

Even that TV camerais small compared to the original 3 strip Technicolor behemoths.

in the very early 1960s my old man took the family to an RCA open house. I played a game with a computer that was bigger than a refrigerator, but had less memory than A 1980xscalculator. The regular computer was in an air conditioned room and consisted of lines of such refrigerators programmed with punch cards (an idea first used in 19th century looms) and with memory stored on reel to reel tape recorders. I am amazed that at that time, astronauts were going into space with guidance systems run by these beasts.

Miniaturizing has its good points, but I sure hope no one starts making tiny banjos.

Oct 3, 2022 - 7:38:39 PM
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59711 posts since 12/14/2005

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