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Sep 27, 2022 - 4:59:38 PM
1328 posts since 11/9/2012

' First attempt at the backing track: Bachman Turner Overdrive's Taking Care of Business. I have had this song in my head for 3 days now. But I still don't know where this is going, because part of me thinks this works, and part of me thinks not. It's my best effort, for now anyway. 'Not perfect at all. Maybe I will come back to this later. I'm working on two others as well. 

Edited by - Toothless in Kentucky on 09/27/2022 17:00:51

Sep 27, 2022 - 7:14:30 PM
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2005 posts since 1/28/2013

Sounds like you know what you ae doing. I sent you a PM.

Sep 28, 2022 - 2:01:45 AM
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phb

Germany

3572 posts since 11/8/2010

I think you are tuned a little lower than the track :)

What you do fits the track very well. In general I can see the banjo fit really well for this track. I like bluegrass but nonetheless think the banjo should be taken to other types of music.

To make it less repetitive, you could add some tag licks and perhaps change between what you do and continuous rolls. Also take the whole thing up-the-neck for a change. In the place where the drums play mostly solo (1st time they do, at about 2:26m) you should also change for effect and e.g. strum chords on the downbeat. Not playing at all for the 2nd time the drums play solo (~3:46m) is a good choice in my opinion.

Sep 28, 2022 - 8:04:19 AM
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4240 posts since 9/12/2016

the pattern seems in sync Terry but the banjo is still not sounding like part of the band and calling too much attention to ''look it's a banjo''--I fight this myself --
the mix for hearing oneself and a good mix for the audience is my delima a lot. The tune rhythm is low notes and uses overdrive--if I could get more of that I would-fills in between verses are part of the candy


 

Edited by - Tractor1 on 09/28/2022 08:05:19

Sep 28, 2022 - 2:32:56 PM

1328 posts since 11/9/2012

quote:
Originally posted by phb

I think you are tuned a little lower than the track :)

What you do fits the track very well. In general I can see the banjo fit really well for this track. I like bluegrass but nonetheless think the banjo should be taken to other types of music.

To make it less repetitive, you could add some tag licks and perhaps change between what you do and continuous rolls. Also take the whole thing up-the-neck for a change. In the place where the drums play mostly solo (1st time they do, at about 2:26m) you should also change for effect and e.g. strum chords on the downbeat. Not playing at all for the 2nd time the drums play solo (~3:46m) is a good choice in my opinion.


Thanks for the help Philipp! I think you nailed it. I tuned with a digital tuner, but indeed I'm not sure the backing track is exactly on A=440 Hz. It's easy for me to forget that many old classic songs were recorded before real good tuners had been invented. I also noticed on You Tube they also have chord chart for this song that is to be played 1 octave up (5 frets up)- So far I have yet to even try that. But I must say that I like that idea, as all I could conclude at first was that I was missing something. I noticed the clash in and near the drum solo especially. Next I will try and take this song up the neck as you suggest. Now if I can only learn to play up 5 frets with no capo (LOL!). wink I also tied not playing @ (3:46) and frankly ' could not decide what sounded best. ' much appreciated. 

Edited by - Toothless in Kentucky on 09/28/2022 14:36:42

Sep 28, 2022 - 2:47 PM

1328 posts since 11/9/2012

quote:
Originally posted by Tractor1

the pattern seems in sync Terry but the banjo is still not sounding like part of the band and calling too much attention to ''look it's a banjo''--I fight this myself --
the mix for hearing oneself and a good mix for the audience is my delima a lot. The tune rhythm is low notes and uses overdrive--if I could get more of that I would-fills in between verses are part of the candy


I appreciate the help Tom. I think I know what you mean, and it might have something to do with the string-pinch I do in the roll.... It's like playing two note chords (pinch) made up of the 1st and 2nd string, next the 5th string (drone) followed by alternating 3rd and 4th string (or close to that).. It was the best fit I could find as I'm only using chords charts, not exact tabs. So right now I'm trying my best to follow the backing track closer than I have managed so far. Jamming this way means my right hand has to know the song or it simply wont work. And I guess that is where I am right now. ' still trying to figure out how to bust out the playing to match the backing. Thank God for chords charts! It's like a new world now. laugh

Sep 28, 2022 - 2:49:09 PM

1328 posts since 11/9/2012

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Originally posted by jan dupree

Sounds like you know what you ae doing. I sent you a PM.


Oh, I would not say that. laugh But thanks for saying it. 

Edited by - Toothless in Kentucky on 09/28/2022 14:49:26

Sep 28, 2022 - 3:19:07 PM
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2158 posts since 11/17/2018

In the examples you've posted recently, I've noticed you are playing with vocals.

This may be throwing you off the melody.

It's also something you wouldn't want to do in a jam, or band situation.

If you can mix out the vocals and just play with the instrumentals, you might be able to listen to the melody much better.

Sep 28, 2022 - 3:46:45 PM

1328 posts since 11/9/2012

quote:
Originally posted by OldNavyGuy

In the examples you've posted recently, I've noticed you are playing with vocals.

This may be throwing you off the melody.

It's also something you wouldn't want to do in a jam, or band situation.

If you can mix out the vocals and just play with the instrumentals, you might be able to listen to the melody much better.


Thanks Jim. That makes sense, and had never downed on me. I believe You Tube has a lot of Karaoke videos up with no singing in them, ' maybe they will work better than the chord videos I'm using for backing. ' Appreciate the help a lot. 

Sep 28, 2022 - 4:25:09 PM
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2158 posts since 11/17/2018

You could also make your own backing tracks.

google.com/search?q=remove+voc...t=gws-wiz

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