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Sep 27, 2022 - 12:40:09 PM
55 posts since 11/30/2021

Wondering if anyone might know specifically what model banjo Herb Pedersen was playing in the late 60s to early 70s when he was recording with the Dillards. I've been going back and listening to Wheat Straw Suite and Copperfields and I'm really impressed with the tone of whatever banjo he's playing. From the few video clips and blurry pictures I can find it looks like a Gibson with the flying eagle inlay, but I'd love to know for sure if someone has some insider knowledge as to the model and year. There is a thread from many years ago on this topic, but it seems like the discussion only ventured into what banjos he's played since the 80s to present.

Sep 27, 2022 - 1:22:22 PM
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2158 posts since 11/17/2018

Herb is a BHO member...send him a PM.

banjohangout.org/myhangout/hom...?id=12463

Sep 27, 2022 - 1:48:29 PM
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chuckv97

Canada

67095 posts since 10/5/2013

Two of his best efforts (and there are many) , imo, are his playing on “Old Man At The Mill” on the Copperfields album, and his banjo on Linda Ronstadt’s “Faithless Love”. But no, I don’t know what he played back then. I saw him about 5 years ago with The John Jorgensen Band and he was playing a Deering.

Old Man At The Mill  https://youtu.be/jEbzB39UZK8

Faithless Love  https://youtu.be/UMUw67bNQ8Q

Edited by - chuckv97 on 09/27/2022 13:51:25

Sep 27, 2022 - 1:51:37 PM
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Foote

USA

622 posts since 3/25/2009

Please post what he says. I'm a big fan of Herb's, both with the Dillards and later. I've got a live board recording of Chris Hillman and Herb when they played the local Sierra Nevada Brewery. Not much banjo, but the harmony singing is the best!

Sep 27, 2022 - 4:15:28 PM

55 posts since 11/30/2021

Thanks for the suggestion! I sent him a message about it. I'm eager to hear what he says. And I agree, his harmony singing especially while keeping the backup licks going is top notch!

Sep 28, 2022 - 6:44:15 AM
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HSmith

UK

482 posts since 12/30/2005

I don't know the answer to your question, but feel compelled to post a related note.
I've been an admirer of Herb Pedersen's playing and song writing since first hearing the Dillards' 'Wheatstraw Suite' in the 1970s. Big-name bluegrass musicians don't often tour the UK, so imagine how excited I was to learn that he would be visiting the UK with Chris Hillman, and playing in the nearby town of Brighton. I attended the show, but sadly Herb played no banjo. However, the music produced by Hillman and Pedersen that night was amongst the best I've ever heard. Just two voices, two guitars and occasional mandolin. They clearly had a special bond, rather like that almost magical connection you find between brothers. It seemed almost surreal to be listening to two legends of the bluegrass and country rock world in a small club in Brighton. I'll never forget it.

Sep 28, 2022 - 9:04:10 AM

76920 posts since 5/9/2007

Herb owned a Granada at one time.

Sep 28, 2022 - 2:36:21 PM
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658 posts since 5/20/2008

I started learning BG banjo in 1970, and Wheatstraw Suite was probably one of the first 5 BG recordings I purchased.  I was only 15 years old.  It rocked my world, and to this day I still listen, about once a year, to Wheatstraw and Copperfields.  I was aware at the time that Wheatstraw was somewhat controversial when it came out, what with its string arrangements and all, but it pulled me in in a way that nothing since has come close to in the world of BG.  Just effing brilliant.   

So many great cuts on Wheatstraw, especially  She Sang Hymns Out of Tune, Don't You Cry and Reason to Believe.  What a recording, and what a time. 

Sep 28, 2022 - 9:29 PM
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chuckv97

Canada

67095 posts since 10/5/2013

I used to play Copperfields at parties with a lot of rock fan friends. I think many of them got indoctrinated….

Sep 29, 2022 - 3:18:32 PM

3142 posts since 2/10/2013

A really good banjo player seems to be able to make any decent banjo sound better than it is. I read that Herb served as a replacement for Earl Scruggs when Earl was unable to perform. I listen to him singing when when was a member of Desert Rose. He probably doesn't get enough recognition as a banjoist.  I especially enjoyed  hearing Herb and Vince Gill singing together.  

Edited by - Richard Hauser on 09/29/2022 15:22:05

Sep 30, 2022 - 7:55:38 AM
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8166 posts since 9/5/2006

here is a good look at it ,,seems to be the right time period

with ray park and vern williams

Edited by - 1935tb-11 on 09/30/2022 07:56:39

Sep 30, 2022 - 4:08:33 PM

chuckv97

Canada

67095 posts since 10/5/2013

Hmmm…Ray playing a G chord and Herb on the D…..

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