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Sep 27, 2022 - 6:02:15 AM
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Didn't happen to me, but to a neighbor of one of my many, many sisters


Clever Scam.... A scam clever enough to catch some seniors off guard!

Give this wide distribution. Just when you thought you'd heard it all. Be very careful out there! Beware of people bearing gifts!

The following is a recounting of the incident from the victim:

"Wednesday a week ago, I had a phone call from someone saying that he was from some outfit called: "Express Couriers," (The name could be any courier company). He asked if I was going to be home because there was a package for me that required a signature. The caller said that the delivery would arrive at my home in approximately an hour.

Sure enough, about an hour later, a uniformed delivery man turned up with a beautiful basket of flowers and a bottle of wine.

I was very surprised, since there was no special occasion or holiday, and I, certainly, didn't expect anything like it. Intrigued, I inquired as to who the sender was.

The courier replied, "I don't know, I'm only delivering the package."

Apparently, a greeting card was being sent separately. (The card has never arrived!) There was also a consignment note with the gift. He then went on to explain that because the gift contained alcohol, there was a $3.50 "delivery/ verification charge," providing proof that he actually had delivered the package to an adult (of legal drinking age), and not just left it on the doorstep where it could be stolen or taken by anyone, especially a minor.

This sounded logical and I offered to pay him cash. He then said that the delivery company required payment to be by credit or debit card only, so that everything is properly accounted for, and this would help in keeping a legal record of the transaction.

He added, "Couriers don't carry cash to avoid loss or being likely targets for robbery."

My husband, who by this time was standing beside me, pulled out his credit card, and the "delivery man" asked him to swipe the card on a small mobile card machine with a small screen and keypad.

Frank, my husband, was asked to enter his PIN number and a receipt was printed out. He was given a copy of the transaction. The guy said everything was in order, and wished us good day, and left.

To our horrible surprise, between Thursday and the following Monday, $4,000 had been charged/withdrawn from our credit/debit account at various ATM machines. Apparently, the "mobile credit card machine," which the deliveryman carried, now had all the info necessary to create a "dummy" card with all our card details including the PIN number.

Upon finding out about the illegal transactions on our card, we immediately, notified the bank which issued us a new card, and our credit/debit account was closed. We also personally went to the police, where it was confirmed that it is definitely a scam because several households had been similarly hit.

WARNING: Be wary of accepting any "surprise gift or package," which you neither expected nor personally ordered, especially if it involves any kind of payment as a condition of receiving the gift or package.

Also, never accept anything if you do not personally know or there is no proper identification of who the sender is. Above all, the only time you should give out any personal credit/debit card information is when you yourself initiated the purchase or transaction!

PLEASE, pass this on, it may just prevent someone else from being swindled.



Just letting all y'all know.

Sep 27, 2022 - 6:14:15 AM

8160 posts since 9/5/2006

yeah i got a call from supposedly our local power company telling me that if i didn't pay this amount today our power would be shut off and gave me a option to pay by phone and all would be good...... yeah right !!!!
but some elderly folks may fall for this and be afraid their power will be turned off and go ahead and follow the phone instructions.... these scammers are getting smarter everyday.

Sep 27, 2022 - 7:03:54 AM
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1209 posts since 9/14/2008

Nothing about this sounds logical.

Who delivers perishables, like flowers, expecting the receiver to pay shipping? If this were the case, the reason the carrier would call ahead is to confirm the receiver agreed to make payment. The carrier would not dispatch the deliveryman without first asking the customer if they were willing to pay shipping.

PIN number? My debit card doesn't require me to enter my PIN unless I'm paying from my checking account. It treats the transaction like a charge account and thus I'm protected. Do NOT use your debit card to pay for anything! Write a check or use your credit card.

Sep 27, 2022 - 7:44:15 AM
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7219 posts since 9/21/2007

Originally posted by mike gregory

Didn't happen to me, but to a neighbor of one of my many, many sisters



Was your sister living in Sydney Australia in October 1-3 of 2008?



Sep 27, 2022 - 8:08:44 AM
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4007 posts since 7/8/2010

An employee at work was leaving his job and was actively seeking employment elsewhere.
He told me about his application to the usps. Apparently he was required to pay $69 app fee, which was refundable if he didn’t get the job. He paid by credit card.
After several days he called the usps and asked about the status of the application. Not their policy to collect app fee.
Well, when he found out he had been scammed, he threw his cell phone against the wall and cracked the lens. Then he smashed his fist into a wall and broke his finger.
He told me before he left us that he probably should work on his anger issues.
So, if anyone out there can use a gullible, phoneless, guy with a broken hand let me know so that I can tell him.

Sep 27, 2022 - 8:24:19 AM
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27975 posts since 8/3/2003

I always find it amazing that people are so trusting, especially with their charge cards. I wouldn't give any stranger my credit card information. If I want to purchase something, I do the looking, shopping and decide where to buy it; preferably at a major store/business where I know it's legit.

I would have told the guy to keep the wine and I'd keep the flowers and thank you very much. Wonder what would have happened then?

Sep 27, 2022 - 11:21:35 AM
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4304 posts since 4/29/2012

That one's been doing the rounds for years. Checked with Snopes.com. They reported this exact text in 2008 and classify it as false. There are enough real scams out there. Why not do a bit of basic checking before passing on internet myths ? It's not hard.

Sep 28, 2022 - 5:14:57 PM

157 posts since 1/28/2017

About 5 years ago when I had just retired there was a package waiting on our doorstep. Opened it up and it was a $1300 cell phone which I didn't order. I called Verizon's shipping warehouse in Indy. I talked them into giving me the shipper that ordered the phone. It was ordered thru Calf. and an account was opened in my name. I had to go thru a lot of phone calls and fraud division of the bank who now held an account in my name. The county police was called immediately and reports filed. They said this scam was going on and the scammer would intercept the phone at your address. You would be stuck with the charges or the mess of straightening out the scam and they had a free cell phone. What went wrong on their end was our actual address is not the mailing address we live in a small town outside Tremont. The police said they had been getting away with this scam. Scammers are the scourge of the earth in my opinion.

Sep 28, 2022 - 5:31:23 PM

348 posts since 7/29/2011

This fake story has been making the rounds on Facebook and elsewhere for 14 years now.  laugh

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