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Sep 24, 2022 - 7:41:58 AM
7 posts since 12/15/2021

Hi guys, I got a hold of a TB-11 and am assessing it for possible conversion to 5 string neck. I put on a new head and strings and have been playing it tuned DGBD just to get an idea of the sound. Predictably, it sounds pretty tubby and woody which is kind of cool, but it probably would not be enough for the band I'm in, plus I have grown accustomed to the tone of my Stelling :) I know the tone can be increased and brightened up a lot by replaced the brass tone hoop with an aftermarket tone ring, but that requires cutting the rim and i "Just Aint". Are there tone rings out there that "drop in" to the old Gibson rims?

Sep 24, 2022 - 8:20:22 AM
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85 posts since 7/24/2021

A good set up goes a really long way . I have an -11 also. I had Clancy Mullins put a 5 string pearloid neck in it and set it up. I think it sounds as good as most and better than many banjos with tone rings. I suggest that. You may be surprised? Eric Sullivan makes rings that slip in and don’t have to alter you pot .

Sep 24, 2022 - 9:11:54 AM
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Foote

USA

622 posts since 3/25/2009

I strongly agree with Will. I also have a TB-11 Kel Kroydon with a perloid conversion neck that sounds and plays great. I recommend doing what Will suggests. If you don't like it, sell it an get a banjo built with a ring. I predict you'll love it as is, no ring. Also, I once talked with Nick Hornbuckle of the Jay Birds about is use of a banjo with no tone ring. He said with today's amplification and monitor systems, he doesn't need a cannon on stage. And his back thanks him for the lighter banjo.

Sep 24, 2022 - 10:28:59 AM

rmcdow

USA

1214 posts since 11/8/2014

I have a TB-11 that has been cut and fitted with a Curtis McPeake 20 hole tone ring, along with a 5 string neck. It has a very nice full sound. My wife doesn't particularly like the sound of bluegrass style resonator banjos, but liked this one, as the sound is a bit more balanced at the low end. Clancy repaired a damaged KK-11 resonator I had for it, and set up the banjo for me.

Edited by - rmcdow on 09/24/2022 10:32:18

Sep 24, 2022 - 11:53:31 AM

2687 posts since 9/18/2010

I had an 11 years ago with a Bill Sulivan tonering installed on the cut rim. It was a great banjo and I only sold it to help finance my flathead.
I recently made this neck for a friend who converted a MB 11 to five string without adding a tonering.

Personally I find it a bit difficult to play a banjo without a tonering. It's like I have to work too hard for tone and power. I suppose I'd just have to get used to it and it would be OK.




 

Edited by - sunburst on 09/24/2022 11:55:53

Sep 24, 2022 - 2:59:48 PM
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RioStat

USA

5933 posts since 10/12/2009

Don't cut the rim......once it's cut, there ain't no "un-cutting" it !

Don Bryant, here on the Hangout, used to talk up his "skirt-less" tone rings.....they sat right on top of an un-cut rim.

He also builds nice 5 string necks for these Style 11's

https://www.banjohangout.org/myhangout/home.asp?id=5342

Sep 24, 2022 - 4:17:01 PM
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Eric A

USA

1639 posts since 10/15/2019

quote:
Originally posted by Foote

I strongly agree with Will. I also have a TB-11 Kel Kroydon with a perloid conversion neck that sounds and plays great. I recommend doing what Will suggests. If you don't like it, sell it an get a banjo built with a ring. I predict you'll love it as is, no ring. Also, I once talked with Nick Hornbuckle of the Jay Birds about is use of a banjo with no tone ring. He said with today's amplification and monitor systems, he doesn't need a cannon on stage. And his back thanks him for the lighter banjo.


That's what I keep saying!  Banjo ain't loud enough?  Don't butcher the banjo!  Turn up the dial!

Saw a regional bluegrass band this summer.  The guy was playing a Goodtime.

Seriously though, all the tone ring innovations of 90 plus years ago were for an era of playing without amplification.  Let's just get over it.

Sep 24, 2022 - 5:04:40 PM
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4071 posts since 5/1/2003

I once had a Mitch Meadors 3 lb brass ring that requires no cutting of the rem if it has a 1/4” hoop to begin with. I had it in a ‘28 style one hoop pot.
It sounded pretty good. I’ve tried to raise awareness of it in the past by postings such as this but all I ever get for responses is crickets.
The ring is odd shaped,kind of an L shape with the bulk of the weight on the inside of the rim but ,again,it’s a 48oz brass ring that requires NO cutting of the rim and it gives a flathead look.
Mitch Meadors.

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