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Jun 5, 2022 - 11:13:30 AM
110 posts since 2/13/2008

I learned a new tuning from reading someone's post here on the forum the other day. I liked it so much, I set out to compose a brand new piece using the tuning I learned. It was a B Flat tuning using from the 4th to the 1st: low Bb, F, Bb, and D (I can't remember the tuning of the fifth string but it was probably lowered a whole tone to F or maybe spiked at Bb. It doesn't matter because I placed the capo on the 4th fret and spiked the fifth string to a high A tone. This gave me a tuning from 5th to 1st as: A low D A D and F#.
This is a gorgeous tuning with myriad possibilities. I'm fast at work with composing a tune and will place it here on this forum when I'm finished. It may take a week or so, but I'll get 'er done.
Thanks for the alternate tuning idea. Fred

Jun 5, 2022 - 12:24:02 PM
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1902 posts since 2/9/2007

"Open C" tuning (lowered a full step). Not common in bluegrass, but far from unknown. Sonny Osborne and JD Crowe made some well-known pieces tuned that way.

Jun 5, 2022 - 10:00:47 PM
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Fathand

Canada

12025 posts since 2/7/2008

Agreed, Open C tuning lowered. Your banjo is likely to ring nicely tuned up to C.

I enjoy it sometimes to play John Henry or Bonapartes Retreat. JD Crowes, "Beartracks" is done out of open C with D tuners.

Jun 5, 2022 - 10:52:54 PM
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521 posts since 5/21/2020

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Originally posted by wbalsam1

I learned a new tuning from reading someone's post here on the forum the other day. I liked it so much, I set out to compose a brand new piece using the tuning I learned. It was a B Flat tuning using from the 4th to the 1st: low Bb, F, Bb, and D (I can't remember the tuning of the fifth string but it was probably lowered a whole tone to F or maybe spiked at Bb. It doesn't matter because I placed the capo on the 4th fret and spiked the fifth string to a high A tone. This gave me a tuning from 5th to 1st as: A low D A D and F#.
This is a gorgeous tuning with myriad possibilities. I'm fast at work with composing a tune and will place it here on this forum when I'm finished. It may take a week or so, but I'll get 'er done.
Thanks for the alternate tuning idea. Fred


Hi wbalsam1 Fred

You might like to checkout Tony Ellis style. Tony is a brilliant banjo player who is known for playing banjo in alternative tunings. Tony doesn't get the same recognition as Scruggs or Melodic players here on the BHO but is highly respected by the IBMA. 

His book The Banjo Music of Tony Ellis

https://www.halleonard.com/product/326/the-banjo-music-of-tony-ellis

 

 

 

 

Lots more videos on YouTube

Edited by - FenderFred on 06/05/2022 22:58:12

Jun 5, 2022 - 11:01:22 PM
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Alex Z

USA

4928 posts since 12/7/2006

Yes, open C, lowered two frets then capped up 4 to get D. 
 

Some times it's not just the pitch of the notes that affects the tone, but how you get there. Here, the poster is both lowering the tension plus shortening the vibrating length of the strings. I can understand this giving a different tone. 
 

Looking forward to hearing the new tune. smiley

Edited by - Alex Z on 06/05/2022 23:02:10

Jun 6, 2022 - 5:44:14 AM
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110 posts since 2/13/2008

Rick, FenderFred and Alex, I appreciate your responses to my post. I'm looking forward to creating a piece of music in the above described tuning. I found Tony Ellis to be a very talented guy. Thanks. Fred

Jun 7, 2022 - 11:27:28 AM
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110 posts since 2/13/2008

Well, I have decided on a particular tuning that I have never ever used before and I'm having a lot of fun with. (I have used the "drop C" tuning for a couple of tunes when I was first exploring with the banjo many years ago and haven't really played in that tuning a lot in quite a few years now. I do, however play a number of tunes in the key of C by leaving the banjo in standard G tuning. Tunes like Home Sweet Home, Sweet Dixie, Little Rock Getaway, Black Diamond, etc.)

Anyway my "new" tuning is an open Bb7 capo-ed to the 4th fret giving me a D7 tuning. The 5th string is pegged at a high A under a spike, the fourth string is a D, 3rd is A, 2nd is C natural and 1st is F#.

I'm fast at work finishing composing an original bluesy tune I have named "All Too Blue" taken from Al = alternate, Tu = Tuning and Blue = Blues- style. Should be done in a few days. I'm having fun with it, anyways. lol

Jun 8, 2022 - 6:10:30 AM
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4283 posts since 3/28/2008

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Originally posted by wbalsam1

I learned a new tuning from reading someone's post here on the forum the other day. I liked it so much, I set out to compose a brand new piece using the tuning I learned. It was a B Flat tuning using from the 4th to the 1st: low Bb, F, Bb, and D (I can't remember the tuning of the fifth string but it was probably lowered a whole tone to F or maybe spiked at Bb. It doesn't matter because I placed the capo on the 4th fret and spiked the fifth string to a high A tone. This gave me a tuning from 5th to 1st as: A low D A D and F#.
This is a gorgeous tuning with myriad possibilities. I'm fast at work with composing a tune and will place it here on this forum when I'm finished. It may take a week or so, but I'll get 'er done.
Thanks for the alternate tuning idea. Fred


That open Bb tuning consists ot the same intervals as the B tuning used by Tony Furtado (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja519UtuJYE) and Tom Adams (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co0K0guZ_3Y&t=62s).

Jun 9, 2022 - 11:07:24 AM
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110 posts since 2/13/2008

Well, here's the tune I composed using a wildly different tuning than I've ever used before. (I tuned the banjo down to a Bb tuning with 4th at low Bb, 3rd at F, 2nd at Bb and 1st at D. I didn't tune the 5th string yet, until I placed the capo at the 4th fret. Thjis put the banjo in a form of Low C Tuning raised to the key of D. Then I spiked my 5th string at the 7th fret at the note A. This gave me a 5th to 1st tuning of A, D, A, D, F#).

I had fun with this whole exercise and came out of it with a playable tune:

https://youtu.be/9Sqi1c_YQtA

Jun 9, 2022 - 3:08:07 PM

110 posts since 2/13/2008

Correction on the alternate tuning. It's actually 5th to 1st: high A, low D, A, C natural and F#.

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