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Jun 4, 2022 - 11:27:16 AM
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685 posts since 1/22/2004

I just discovered some Low Life has joined the BHO, taken MY photos and MY description of MY Huber banjo and listed it for sale in the BHO Classifieds! Here is the crook's link to the fake ad:

banjohangout.org/classified/93752

I DO have my Huber listed for sale on Craig's List, but have not listed it on the BHO.

The user name of the scammer is: Victorlagon.

I have reported the fake ad to our wonderful moderator (Texas Banjo) and the scammer's BHO page has been locked.

Frustrating is an understatement.

Please be careful if you're looking to buy or sell a banjo.

Jun 4, 2022 - 12:16:46 PM
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4441 posts since 10/13/2005
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I sent out Jed and the boys with plenty of rope. Meanwhile, I am stoking up the fire. We'll git'em! banjered

Jun 4, 2022 - 12:19:20 PM
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2969 posts since 12/31/2005

The scammers have been using Craigslist pictures recently instead of pictures from dealer sites. If in doubt, start asking questions they could only answer with banjo in hand. That's when you get ignored or the runaround. I flagged one like that last week. The percentage of New Seller banjos being scammed is very, very high.

Jun 4, 2022 - 12:25:34 PM

250 posts since 7/22/2012

Wow

Jun 4, 2022 - 12:30:06 PM
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568 posts since 4/28/2012

quote:
Originally posted by banjered

I sent out Jed and the boys with plenty of rope. Meanwhile, I am stoking up the fire. We'll git'em! banjered


 

LOL....

Hey banjered,

Let's not "take the law into our own hands" until due process has been carried out.

We'll get 'em soon enough.

Jun 4, 2022 - 1:58:04 PM

14849 posts since 10/30/2008

Was that the H&F Huber Granada? I was very suspicious when I saw the low price and New Member caption.

Jun 4, 2022 - 2:12:14 PM

13465 posts since 6/2/2008
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At least two below-market Deerings hit the Classifieds this week from brand new members.

Here's one: A Maple Blossom for $1500.

The other was a Golden Era for $2000 or only slightly more. It's gone. Don't know if it was reported or sold.

I'm not in the market and I don't know if it's my place to paly detective on the Maple Blossom to determine the listing's authenticity.

There's an '82 Maple Blossom for $1750, listed by a member with a +11 rating, so that's a low price on a legitimate offer.

Jun 4, 2022 - 2:18:49 PM

685 posts since 1/22/2004

The Old Timer,  I believe so:  my banjo is a Huber VRBG, stainless frets, gold D-tuners.  The scammer had it listed for only $3,500.  (My listing on Craig's List is, of course, asking more $$.)  :P

Jun 4, 2022 - 2:31:19 PM
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heavy5

USA

2357 posts since 11/3/2016

I noticed the Golden Era for 2 k & thought it had an odd smell so for the heck of it sent the seller a couple of questions w/ no reply & now no add ?

Edited by - heavy5 on 06/04/2022 14:35:31

Jun 4, 2022 - 2:40:33 PM

685 posts since 1/22/2004

banjered , ha! I like the way you think. ...get a rope (or two) and stoke a fire. We can "head 'em, heel 'em and brand em." That way, we'll know who the scammers are. ;)

Or perhaps the BHO needs to restrict "new members" from posting in the Classifieds until they have a bit of a track record in the BHO?  

Edited by - Just Bill on 06/04/2022 14:43:00

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Jun 4, 2022 - 4:04:57 PM
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banjoy

USA

10345 posts since 7/1/2006

A few days ago a Nechville Phantom popped up in BHO classifieds for only $1700. Same MO, a new user and a too good to be true price, but ... makes ya think.

I wondered if it was BS and it seems the next day when I looked the ad was gone.

Glad you caught this, kinda by coincidence that you did. Yeah, I agree, maybe some stricter control over who may join and post ads immediately ... should be in place.

Jun 6, 2022 - 8:07:13 AM
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KCJones

USA

1764 posts since 8/30/2012

Another day, another barrage of scammers on BHO. Scammer central around here it seems, and it won't stop unless action is taken by the administration.

Jun 8, 2022 - 7:28:28 AM

685 posts since 1/22/2004

This a great way to protect yourself from scam/fraudulent sellers and the seller's status is posted at the bottom of each BHO ad:

The Banjo Hangout Classifieds system automatically designates sellers as Verified if they 1) have made an online payment through the site in the past 90 days or 2) are Players Union members.

Sellers not meeting these conditions are designated as Unverified.

This simple seller verification setup does not eliminate the risks inherent in classifieds transactions, but it does ensure that we have payment and contact information on file for the seller in case issues arise. Scammers are very reluctant to give up this sort of identifying information, so a scammer with a "Verified Seller" designation is a rare thing indeed.

Edited by - Just Bill on 06/08/2022 07:29:47

Jun 13, 2022 - 5:45:33 PM

44 posts since 4/4/2021

This one just showed up this evening in openbacks, and struck me as kind of fishy.  Low price, scant details, brand new user with no history.  Oh, and it's a "Mark" Ramsey??

https://www.banjohangout.org/classified/93904

Or maybe I'm just overly suspicious after reading the posts above! indecision

Edited by - mandobanjolibrarian on 06/13/2022 17:47:33

Jun 13, 2022 - 6:03:20 PM

1092 posts since 5/22/2021

Can a reverse-image search be done by google or something like that? To see if any suspicious ads are using other photos from other people? I heard of it before, but no idea how to do it.

Russ A.

EDIT: Aside from this, I thought I saw another spam add in the classifieds posted just now (https://www.banjohangout.org/classified/90659), but I just checked, and surprisingly enough, its not spam (of course), but actually is the same brand of banjo I started off on a year ago, as my first banjo. 

Edited by - BeeEnvironment on 06/13/2022 18:12:29

Jun 13, 2022 - 8:16:41 PM

44 posts since 4/4/2021

quote:
Originally posted by mandobanjolibrarian

This one just showed up this evening in openbacks, and struck me as kind of fishy.  Low price, scant details, brand new user with no history.  Oh, and it's a "Mark" Ramsey??

https://www.banjohangout.org/classified/93904

Or maybe I'm just overly suspicious after reading the posts above! indecision


Looks like they took this one down -- in a hurry -- after I decided to report it.  Perhaps my hunch was right?  Thanks for being on top of it, moderators!  If it ends up being legit, I suppose it will appear again at some point.

Jun 14, 2022 - 4:48:10 AM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

27561 posts since 8/3/2003

quote:
Originally posted by KCJones

Another day, another barrage of scammers on BHO. Scammer central around here it seems, and it won't stop unless action is taken by the administration.


We do our best to catch those spammers.  Unfortunately, some do slip through.  Hopefully, members will continue to post admin reports when they see what looks like a scam ad and we can check it out.

Jun 14, 2022 - 5:11:15 AM

KCJones

USA

1764 posts since 8/30/2012

Sherry you do a great job, you do as much as you can within your ability as a moderator.

When I say administration, I mean Eric. This website has been overrun with scammers to the point that you can no longer recommend BHO marketplace as a "safe and trustworthy" option for people to buy banjos. Caveat emptor is a fine philosophy and required no matter where you are, but to just allow the continuous onslaught of scammers without any type of acknowledgement or proactive measures is simply negligent. It's like building a pool in a neighborhood with no fence.

Jun 14, 2022 - 5:40:07 AM

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Jun 14, 2022 - 5:47:48 AM
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Helix

USA

15760 posts since 8/30/2006

Just Bill - :I pity the fool

I'm glad to see you are still playing, come and join us again on Fiddler's Dream open stage. People ask who was that guy?

Isn't it funny how much energy foolery takes.

Jun 14, 2022 - 5:51:23 AM
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Helix

USA

15760 posts since 8/30/2006

This a great way to protect yourself from scam/fraudulent sellers and the seller's status is posted at the bottom of each BHO ad:

The Banjo Hangout Classifieds system automatically designates sellers as Verified if they 1) have made an online payment through the site in the past 90 days or 2) are Players Union members.

Sellers not meeting these conditions are designated as Unverified.

This simple seller verification setup does not eliminate the risks inherent in classifieds transactions, but it does ensure that we have payment and contact information on file for the seller in case issues arise. Scammers are very reluctant to give up this sort of identifying information, so a scammer with a "Verified Seller" designation is a rare thing indeed.


I believe this is a well thought out solution.

Jun 14, 2022 - 7:18:34 AM

685 posts since 1/22/2004

Howdy, @Helix

Thanks for the invitation to re-join the Fiddler's Dream open stage. I would very much enjoy joining you all again. Much has been going on and "life" has once again interfered with my desire to pick. It looks like things are beginning to calm down, so will do my best to join you all in the near future. Bill

Edited by - Just Bill on 06/14/2022 07:19:27

Jun 19, 2022 - 10:13:31 AM
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Cleitus

New Zealand

395 posts since 6/10/2011

quote:
Originally posted by BeeEnvironment

Can a reverse-image search be done by google or something like that? To see if any suspicious ads are using other photos from other people? I heard of it before, but no idea how to do it.

Russ A.

EDIT: Aside from this, I thought I saw another spam add in the classifieds posted just now (https://www.banjohangout.org/classified/90659), but I just checked, and surprisingly enough, its not spam (of course), but actually is the same brand of banjo I started off on a year ago, as my first banjo. 


Yep it's dead easy in MS edge browser to look for images elsehwere - just click on the image so that alone appears, then right click and you will see among the list of options 'seek on web', click on that and it will bring up all the similar pics it can find on the internet. Wonderful tool.

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