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Lyon and Healy Mystic... Well, part of one.

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May 28, 2022 - 12:57:19 PM
469 posts since 3/26/2009

Picked this up today at the Nashville Fairgrounds flea market.   I just couldn't leave it there.  The "mods" look old, I'm not sure I've ever come across something "set up" like this seems to have been.  It appears to have been changed to a  9 string.  Maybe no drone octive banjolin?  I dont know.  The remains of the nut seems to have been filed for pairs.

I'm not sure how to proceed.  Neck seems straight and pot solid.  I'm not sure how if it was strung like that.   I'll probably have to see if it still has some music in there.  Doubt I'll string all these pegs.














 

May 28, 2022 - 3:54:13 PM
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607 posts since 1/24/2014

That is cool. I’ve only been to the flea market in Nashville once but didn’t see anything like that there. My son still is living in Nashville, May have check it out again.

May 28, 2022 - 7:19:57 PM
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1626 posts since 4/29/2013

I had one basically identical to this one. The plate has other names as well, with slightly different inlays in the same configuration, but was the same banjo. The Mystic name appeared on later models that bear no resemblance to this one. I'm thinking the fingerboard and overlay on these are thin pieces of ebony, and not dyed or ebonized wood. 

The one I had had been played for years as a plectrum by a former owner according to the previous owner, and it had some upbow in the neck. Didn't want to reset the dowel and endbolt placement, but even with a 1/2" bridge the action was higher than the typical ~1/4" @ fret 12, so I ended up having to. I remember there being a square strip of wood (as seen at the end of the heel) underneath the fretboard acting as a reinforcement rod, something I had not seen on other banjos of this vintage or even on another base-model Lyon and Healy I worked on. 

Personally, I would see about taking the extra pegs off, plug the holes, and sell those extras to put towards the missing hardware, but that's just me. 


May 28, 2022 - 7:39:41 PM

9636 posts since 8/28/2013

I, too, would ditch those extra strings. Eight strings at the peghead is too much tension, even for a fairly sturdy banjo. I'm sure this originally had 5 strings.

May 30, 2022 - 8:27:28 AM

469 posts since 3/26/2009

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Originally posted by Noah Cline

I had one basically identical to this one. The plate has other names as well, with slightly different inlays in the same configuration, but was the same banjo. The Mystic name appeared on later models that bear no resemblance to this one. I'm thinking the fingerboard and overlay on these are thin pieces of ebony, and not dyed or ebonized wood. 

The one I had had been played for years as a plectrum by a former owner according to the previous owner, and it had some upbow in the neck. Didn't want to reset the dowel and endbolt placement, but even with a 1/2" bridge the action was higher than the typical ~1/4" @ fret 12, so I ended up having to. I remember there being a square strip of wood (as seen at the end of the heel) underneath the fretboard acting as a reinforcement rod, something I had not seen on other banjos of this vintage or even on another base-model Lyon and Healy I worked on. 

Personally, I would see about taking the extra pegs off, plug the holes, and sell those extras to put towards the missing hardware, but that's just me. 

 


I'm with you on a plan I think.  I'm not sure how I'll plug the holes.  I hate to cap the headstock with the star still intact.   They seem to be well centered and evenly spaced.  I might try som inlay buttons or something.   I'm missing one shoe and all the hooks.   

The one you had sounds great.  Operator probably has a lot to do with that.  Do you have a guestimate on the build year?  I keep seeing "c.1895" on every Google search, but I don't see any identifying marks on it other than the Mystic badge. 

May 30, 2022 - 10:41:14 AM
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1626 posts since 4/29/2013

Thanks!

Here's a catalog page from 1916 which basically describes this version to a T: http://piccoloplace.org/props/VintageCatalogues/1-big-EXT/1916.LyonHealy.jpg

My guess would be turn of the century, maybe, for the earliest example.   

Ebony dot inlays would work for the top of the hole in the peghead face like you mentioned, and then a dowel of walnut or mahogany for the rest of the hole. Don't see why that wouldn't work. 

Edited by - Noah Cline on 05/30/2022 10:42:38

Jun 11, 2022 - 6:34:09 PM
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caedmon

USA

36 posts since 7/12/2013

I have this exact banjo in an A-scale/ladies size. It's a neat one - good find.

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