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May 25, 2022 - 12:19:29 PM
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STUD

USA

35825 posts since 3/5/2008

Hey Hansome......Hunk...n...STUD.......

Futhermore..the terms ..
Stump...Peewee...n...peanut....
Will be considered..Hate Speach...
An appropriate..meltdown...will follow..
Any utterance of thos terms..
N..will be delt with the hitting of the..
Mommy Button...

That is all.......
Carry on... :0<

May 25, 2022 - 12:57:55 PM
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ChunoTheDog

Canada

1479 posts since 8/9/2019

I'm not in a cult, my pronouns are "if you can't tell, you're stupid" as well as "I'm not thin-skinned so call me whatever you want".

May 25, 2022 - 1:24:42 PM

Owen

Canada

11219 posts since 6/5/2011

.... is someone's, or more than one someone's, chain being yanked?  sad

May 25, 2022 - 1:29 PM
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ChunoTheDog

Canada

1479 posts since 8/9/2019

quote:
Originally posted by Owen

.... is someone's, or more than one someone's, chain being yanked?  sad


Difficult to tell... my employer's HR folks sent out an email telling us to put our pronouns in our email signatures.... My pronoun was "Director-HR' for a while. 

Needless to say, they don't bug me anymore.

May 25, 2022 - 1:48:09 PM
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11145 posts since 8/22/2006

I prefer the pronoun Lord Marshal. You may kiss the ring.

May 25, 2022 - 2:03:50 PM
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mjt0229

USA

405 posts since 4/20/2015

I'm going to regret saying this, but I just don't think it's too much to ask to respect people's wishes as to what they'd like to be called. There's a word for people who can't respect that, but it doesn't get used in polite discussion on internet forums.

May 25, 2022 - 2:10:34 PM
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ChunoTheDog

Canada

1479 posts since 8/9/2019

quote:
Originally posted by mjt0229

I'm going to regret saying this, but I just don't think it's too much to ask to respect people's wishes as to what they'd like to be called. There's a word for people who can't respect that, but it doesn't get used in polite discussion on internet forums.


It's one thing to pretend to be whatever you want and force people to call you that.

It's a whole other thing to make everyone on earth wear their 'pronouns' on their foreheads as if they, too, also have a mental problem. 

May 25, 2022 - 2:13:54 PM
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mjt0229

USA

405 posts since 4/20/2015

quote:
Originally posted by ChunoTheDog
quote:
Originally posted by mjt0229

I'm going to regret saying this, but I just don't think it's too much to ask to respect people's wishes as to what they'd like to be called. There's a word for people who can't respect that, but it doesn't get used in polite discussion on internet forums.


as if they, too, also have a mental problem. 

I can see which option you identified as then.

May 25, 2022 - 2:14:42 PM
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STUD

USA

35825 posts since 3/5/2008

quote:
Originally posted by mjt0229

I'm going to regret saying this, but I just don't think it's too much to ask to respect people's wishes as to what they'd like to be called. There's a word for people who can't respect that, but it doesn't get used in polite discussion on internet forums.


You can call me...

Mr. STUD... ;0)

May 25, 2022 - 2:19:31 PM
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11145 posts since 8/22/2006

quote:
Originally posted by mjt0229

I'm going to regret saying this, but I just don't think it's too much to ask to respect people's wishes as to what they'd like to be called. There's a word for people who can't respect that, but it doesn't get used in polite discussion on internet forums.


Disrespectful?

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May 25, 2022 - 3:14:43 PM
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1035 posts since 10/4/2018

Since there is already a pronoun that is used for things other than he or she, maybe that word should be used, and that is: it. I don't really want to use the term they or them because those words already have a meaning and using a plural term for a single person doesn't make any sense and doesn't respect English. If people are so eager to redefine themselves, perhaps they can make up a new word instead of taking a very common one and repurposing it. I think this behavior is a lame search for undue attention and I don't really want to play along. I don't go out of my way to disrespect people, and I don't follow along with all the stupid fads either. But, I will definitely make fun of people who go out of their way to defend this practice, especially if they are not a person who identifies as a "pronoun". In fact, from now on, I think I will just talk of people demanding a non-standard pronoun as simply "pronoun". Thanks to all the people who whine about nothing.

May 25, 2022 - 3:25:40 PM
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mjt0229

USA

405 posts since 4/20/2015

quote:
Originally posted by Good Buddy

Since there is already a pronoun that is used for things other than he or she, maybe that word should be used, and that is: it. I don't really want to use the term they or them because those words already have a meaning and using a plural term for a single person doesn't make any sense and doesn't respect English. If people are so eager to redefine themselves, perhaps they can make up a new word instead of taking a very common one and repurposing it. I think this behavior is a lame search for undue attention and I don't really want to play along. I don't go out of my way to disrespect people, and I don't follow along with all the stupid fads either. But, I will definitely make fun of people who go out of their way to defend this practice, especially if they are not a person who identifies as a "pronoun". In fact, from now on, I think I will just talk of people demanding a non-standard pronoun as simply "pronoun". Thanks to all the people who whine about nothing.


False.

https://public.oed.com/blog/a-brief-history-of-singular-they/

May 25, 2022 - 3:27:18 PM
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mjt0229

USA

405 posts since 4/20/2015

Also, even if you disagree with the history, I would also point out that it is a fallacy to consider a living language a fixed, immutable entity.

May 25, 2022 - 3:44:53 PM
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m06

England

11178 posts since 10/5/2006

quote:
Originally posted by figmo59

Hey Hansome......Hunk...n...STUD.......

Futhermore..the terms ..
Stump...Peewee...n...peanut....
Will be considered..Hate Speach...
An appropriate..meltdown...will follow..
Any utterance of thos terms..
N..will be delt with the hitting of the..
Mommy Button...

That is all.......
Carry on... :0<


I seem to recall you being one of the first in line accusing and whining like a crybaby when others use (what you falsely mis-label as) ridicule directed at you within a discussion.

And here you are posting a topic that is nothing but 100% ridicule of other people from the start. Forget pronouns, there's a wide choice of highly descriptive and accurate nouns that describe a person who behaves like that.

Maybe you should try something unique too and play some banjo for a change? frown

Edited by - m06 on 05/25/2022 15:53:50

May 25, 2022 - 3:50:33 PM

STUD

USA

35825 posts since 3/5/2008

You do like yer labels mike..

May 25, 2022 - 4:19:21 PM
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304 posts since 2/11/2019

quote:
Originally posted by mjt0229

I'm going to regret saying this, but I just don't think it's too much to ask to respect people's wishes as to what they'd like to be called. There's a word for people who can't respect that, but it doesn't get used in polite discussion on internet forums.


I don't know why you need anything other than a first and last name.  Unless your first name is Arlie than people will call you Jim like they do my dad. 

If people want to pretend to be something they aren't I suppose that is their business, up until the point that guys who can't hack it competing with other guys start playing girls sports.  Then I got a problem with you.  And I refuse to refer to these frauds as a she.

May 25, 2022 - 4:22:39 PM

mjt0229

USA

405 posts since 4/20/2015

quote:
Originally posted by Mad Hornet
quote:
Originally posted by mjt0229

I'm going to regret saying this, but I just don't think it's too much to ask to respect people's wishes as to what they'd like to be called. There's a word for people who can't respect that, but it doesn't get used in polite discussion on internet forums.


I don't know why you need anything other than a first and last name.  Unless your first name is Arlie than people will call you Jim like they do my dad.


Pronouns are a feature of every human language I know of.

May 25, 2022 - 4:24:52 PM

3382 posts since 10/17/2009

quote:
Originally posted by figmo59

Hey Hansome......Hunk...n...STUD.......

Futhermore..the terms ..
Stump...Peewee...n...peanut....
Will be considered..Hate Speach...
An appropriate..meltdown...will follow..
Any utterance of thos terms..
N..will be delt with the hitting of the..
Mommy Button...

That is all.......
Carry on... :0<


Those are not pronouns.

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Stump...Peewee...n...peanut.... purpose is usually just lame attempt at insult, put down, ridicule, name calling. I don't think there is any new woke thing about it... always was disrespectful.

Ironically , some using insults, can tend to be pretty thin skinned n whine when used on them, and their deficiency. laugh

Edited by - banjoak on 05/25/2022 16:27:55

May 25, 2022 - 4:30:53 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by mjt0229
quote:
Originally posted by Mad Hornet
quote:
Originally posted by mjt0229

I'm going to regret saying this, but I just don't think it's too much to ask to respect people's wishes as to what they'd like to be called. There's a word for people who can't respect that, but it doesn't get used in polite discussion on internet forums.


I don't know why you need anything other than a first and last name.  Unless your first name is Arlie than people will call you Jim like they do my dad.


Pronouns are a feature of every human language I know of.


Sure but normal people don't give much thought to whether people call them he, she, him or her.  Frauds do.  And frankly I don't give a damn if they are offended about being called a fraud I'm past the point in my life where I'm playing pretend or getting sucked into other people's illusions.  Heck you got idiots going around meowing and eating off the floor WTF?

May 25, 2022 - 5:26:10 PM
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3382 posts since 10/17/2009

Language, and pronouns can be clunky. Heck "You" sometimes is confusing. (why not Thee and Thou). Folks don't always get it right.

The he/him/his, she/her... they/them mostly as plural; is pretty engrained in me and most folks, so non-gender they/them sometimes would seem a little clunky used in singular.

Some of this reminds me of past issue with the use of suffix "man" (mailman, spokesman, policeman, fireman, repairman..) and mostly supposed to use "person". 

Likewise, probably see some change, more used...  but folks even if trying to do best to respect, still use familiar, perhaps slip or forget, of not important context; not intending to be statement about gender.

Trying to win hard dogmatic extreme to either side seems unrealistic.

May 25, 2022 - 5:27:41 PM
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mjt0229

USA

405 posts since 4/20/2015

quote:

Pronouns are a feature of every human language I know of.


Sure but normal people don't give much thought to whether people call them he, she, him or her.  Frauds do. And frankly I don't give a damn if they are offended about being called a fraud I'm past the point in my life where I'm playing pretend or getting sucked into other people's illusions.  Heck you got idiots going around meowing and eating off the floor WTF?


I think if you're being honest with yourself, you'd find that it matters to you what people call you.

May 25, 2022 - 5:29:30 PM

ChunoTheDog

Canada

1479 posts since 8/9/2019

quote:
Originally posted by mjt0229

I'm going to regret saying this, but I just don't think it's too much to ask to respect people's wishes as to what they'd like to be called. There's a word for people who can't respect that, but it doesn't get used in polite discussion on internet forums.


Why regret it? Own everything you do in life. 

May 25, 2022 - 5:33:22 PM
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ChunoTheDog

Canada

1479 posts since 8/9/2019

quote:
Originally posted by mjt0229
quote:

Pronouns are a feature of every human language I know of.


Sure but normal people don't give much thought to whether people call them he, she, him or her.  Frauds do. And frankly I don't give a damn if they are offended about being called a fraud I'm past the point in my life where I'm playing pretend or getting sucked into other people's illusions.  Heck you got idiots going around meowing and eating off the floor WTF?


I think if you're being honest with yourself, you'd find that it matters to you what people call you.


Umm, no. Like 100%, straight up, no.

Being a French-Canadian that grew up in various WASPy places, I can with absolute fact and honesty say that I've been called everything under the sun (heck, my father could never remember my first name) and today, decades later, I truly do not care what anyone addresses me as. 

Being offended is a conscious choice one makes. Don't be soft and the world will be a better place for you. 

Also don't assume how others feel, there are some pretty stone cold folks in the world.

May 25, 2022 - 5:34:54 PM
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ChunoTheDog

Canada

1479 posts since 8/9/2019

quote:
Originally posted by banjoak

Language, and pronouns can be clunky. Heck "You" sometimes is confusing. (why not Thee and Thou). Folks don't always get it right.

The he/him/his, she/her... they/them mostly as plural; is pretty engrained in me and most folks, so non-gender they/them sometimes would seem a little clunky used in singular.

Some of this reminds me of past issue with the use of suffix "man" (mailman, spokesman, policeman, fireman, repairman..) and mostly supposed to use "person". 

Likewise, probably see some change, more used...  but folks even if trying to do best to respect, still use familiar, perhaps slip or forget, of not important context; not intending to be statement about gender.

Trying to win hard dogmatic extreme to either side seems unrealistic.


In French, the de facto pronoun for a gender neutral thing is the masculine (he). Seems like people have solved this 'problem' eons ago. 

May 25, 2022 - 5:35:58 PM

ChunoTheDog

Canada

1479 posts since 8/9/2019

quote:
Originally posted by mjt0229

Also, even if you disagree with the history, I would also point out that it is a fallacy to consider a living language a fixed, immutable entity.


LatinX is definitely legit....haha 

May 25, 2022 - 5:38:07 PM
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304 posts since 2/11/2019

quote:
Originally posted by mjt0229
quote:

Pronouns are a feature of every human language I know of.


Sure but normal people don't give much thought to whether people call them he, she, him or her.  Frauds do. And frankly I don't give a damn if they are offended about being called a fraud I'm past the point in my life where I'm playing pretend or getting sucked into other people's illusions.  Heck you got idiots going around meowing and eating off the floor WTF?


I think if you're being honest with yourself, you'd find that it matters to you what people call you.


To my face they call me by my name mostly.  My friends dish their various insults and I dish em right back.  And what people call me behind my back is none of my business.  Being honest with myself I spend zero time and energy worrying about it.  I don't live in a world of make-believe.

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