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May 24, 2022 - 10:14:24 AM
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pickn5

USA

1657 posts since 8/8/2012

I recently bought a new Gold Tone BC350 that has probably been in store stock for quite a while. A couple of the tuning pegs turn hard. I noticed there are, what appears to be, leather washers on the pegs. Do the washers require an kind of lubricant or do I just adjust the tension screws?

I noticed, that when I'm playing the Gold Tone, my hand doesn't slide as smoothly on the neck, as it does when I'm playing my Deering Sierra. Any suggestions or comments are appreciated.

May 24, 2022 - 10:38:58 AM
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BobbyE

USA

3121 posts since 11/29/2007

On the tuners back the screws off a bit. Never heard of lubing the washers. A bit of baby powder applied to the hand and rubbed along the back of the neck might help a bit. Probably just a matter of different types of finishes on the necks. I guess one would expect the Deering to feel a bit better than the Gold-Tone.

Bobby

May 24, 2022 - 10:52:52 AM
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pickn5

USA

1657 posts since 8/8/2012

BobbyE thanks for the fast response. I'll adjust the screws and maybe give the baby powder a try.

May 24, 2022 - 4:55:22 PM
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4398 posts since 10/13/2005

Pencil lead in the nut slots, check slots aren't too small. banjered

May 30, 2022 - 3:57:31 AM
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pickn5

USA

1657 posts since 8/8/2012

banjered thanks, I'll check the slots and add the pencil lead as I'm going to be changing strings soon.

May 31, 2022 - 3:26:42 AM
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19 posts since 9/8/2017

Hi, Jeff -

Aside from those two issues, how do you like your BC-350? I have one as well and think it's great. Really like the sound and the little extra width at the nut. Wish it was a bit lighter in weight, but otherwise it suits me just fine!

Mickey

May 31, 2022 - 6:45:36 AM
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Helix

USA

15612 posts since 8/30/2006

your finish is nitro-cellulose lacquer. Use 0000 steel wool and then burnish it back out with a linen hanky, no talc.

May 31, 2022 - 6:03:47 PM
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TonyS

USA

655 posts since 7/15/2008

Good ideas all!

Jun 9, 2022 - 10:59:10 AM
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pickn5

USA

1657 posts since 8/8/2012

MRichaud I like the BC 350, my hand slides ok on the neck now, it was just me I guess. I adjusted the tuning machines and its somewhat better.

Helix My hand slides ok now, must have been me that first day. Thanks for the info, I'll keep it for future reference.

Thank you all for the advice, it is appreciated.

Jun 10, 2022 - 8:12:54 AM
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Helix

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I believe all Gold Tone finishes are poly. Steel wool or scotch bright is still a good solution for poly as well.

Edited by - Scrubbing Monkeys on 06/10/2022 08:14:03

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Jun 10, 2022 - 5:05:25 PM
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Helix

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15612 posts since 8/30/2006

I disagree, some of the Gold Tone entry level finishes are cured with ultra-violet light like Taylor Guitars.

But I agree on steel wool, I don't like Scotch Brite because there are no grades in abrasiveness.

Jun 10, 2022 - 5:28:40 PM
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304 posts since 3/2/2013

quote:
Originally posted by pickn5

BobbyE thanks for the fast response. I'll adjust the screws and maybe give the baby powder a try.


Changes in humidity and temp can affect how your skin and finish on the neck interact. 

Jun 11, 2022 - 7:12:14 AM
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4228 posts since 3/28/2008

If the washers are indeed leather, they'll expand when the humidity rises, and that'll make the tuning pegs tight. That happens on my Keith tuners. (Bill Keith once gave me a bunch of leather washers for the pegs, which I dutifully installed. I'm not sure, though, why he thought they were superior to the synthetic washers that came with the pegs back in the 1980s.)

Jun 11, 2022 - 7:33:44 AM
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kd8tzc

USA

319 posts since 4/11/2022

quote:
Originally posted by pickn5

I recently bought a new Gold Tone BC350 that has probably been in store stock for quite a while. A couple of the tuning pegs turn hard. I noticed there are, what appears to be, leather washers on the pegs. Do the washers require an kind of lubricant or do I just adjust the tension screws?

I noticed, that when I'm playing the Gold Tone, my hand doesn't slide as smoothly on the neck, as it does when I'm playing my Deering Sierra. Any suggestions or comments are appreciated.


Jeff, I have a Gold Tone OB 150+ (the + just means it has a JLS tone ring).  Weighs a ton, but I have not been a fan of my tuners.  Mine were never stiff, but I just can't seem to tune it easily.  Part of the issue might be is that I have a Peterson clip on tuner which is fairly sensitive.  That being said though, when I put that same tuner on my Deering Americana or my Eastman mandolin, it's not as difficult.  I do believe the Eastman may have a higher ratio tuner on it, but I have planetary tuners on the Deering.  I believe you have the same GT Planetary tuners that I may have.  I believe that will be the first upgrade I do to my instrument, I'm just not sure which ones to go with yet.

Regardless of that though, I love the sound of the Gold Tone.  It will never sound like a pre-war Gibson, and that's okay, but it really sounds nice and loud.  I'm sure that tone ring has a lot to do with that, but I have no idea how different it would sound without it.

I didn't notice much difference with the smoothness of the necks on my two banjo's though.

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