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Originally posted by mrphysics55Clean, dry, soft cloth.
I must be using the wrong type of cloth, as it's not helping much.
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Originally posted by RoCopickin20You can use a product called Simichrome, which is a polish to be used on the nickel plated hardware.
Simichrome will remove the plating over time. Just use dish soap and water or let the party develop a patina . . .
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Originally posted by RoCopickin20You can use a product called Simichrome, which is a polish to be used on the nickel plated hardware.
Simichrome is an excellent polish for motorcycles. Or solid aluminum or chrome plated parts.
Nickel is somewhat softer than chrome, and thin enough to wear through if regularly rubbed out with an abrasive polish. That's why you see a lot of elderly banjos with worn-out nickel plating.
I think that most pickers tend to ignore oxidation on nickel plated parts--or if it's totally ruined--it can be polished and replated. It depends on how badly you want it to shine like new. Banjo hooks tend to suffer the worst over time. Fortunately, new hooks are pretty cheap and can be replaced with new ones if that's your preference.
I suspect that most of the corrosion on vintage hardware may be caused by out-gassing corrosive fumes from deteriorating celluloid. storing the banjo out of the case may slow that process.
Some players prefer the appearance of aged hardware, and specify new parts to be patenated to provide the 'earthy' look. It's a natural process, and can give the impression of a heavily-used instrument. Like a worn and faded black belt in karate.
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Thanks folks. I honestly thought there was some kind of nickel polish that players were using. I had no idea folks just used a rag. Whenever I do this, it seems like I'm just pushing smudges over to a new spot on the metal. I have been using an old white tube sock. I think it works better on the strings though.
I try not to touch the metal parts , by handling the banjo by the wood parts only. The nickel plating on Recording King banjos tarnishes very easily. I've bought several of them over the last number of years and usually use some polishing compound No. 7 to clean off banjos that I bought damaged on ebay. Some people hands will really tarnish the metal quickly it seems. I have run into some that won't polish out completely! I usually like to swap out the nickel for chrome parts for this reason. Not everyone cares what their banjo looks like. Some do, some don't . I'm not knocking them at all. I just like a clean looking banjo. I have a RB-4 Copy that I made (with the LORD's help) and it still has nickel parts on it. I just keep it clean like most has said by wiping it off if I touch the metal part. I've learned to handle it so I don't touch the metal parts. I always swap the armrest to a chrome one on all my banjos for this reason. They hold up so much better.
I use Simichrome on my Deering Sierra. Brasso on my open backs. I give it a good cleaning every time I change strings which is usually every three months or so. Canned air to blow out dust in impossible to reach areas. Soft cloth. I used Lysol all purpose on the head and it works well to get the grime off. Some guys like that well worn, dusty, dirty look. I'm not one of them.
Now I've only the Deering a little over three years and with Simichrome it still looks as good as the day I bought it. Can't say how it will be after longer usage but that product was recommended to me by my banjo instructor who has been playing banjo 50 years.
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Originally posted by Toothless in KentuckyI honestly thought there was some kind of nickel polish that players were using. . . . I have been using an old white tube sock. I think it works better on the strings though.
I don't think Simichrome gently wiped on and off once a decade is going to do much damage. You just don't want to make a regular thing of it.
It wasn't until the past few years that I knew Simichrome was potentially dangerous to plating. Fortunately, I never polished my banjos many times.
For something really mild, consider one of the lacquer-safe instrument polishes. Liquids in pump bottles, not creams or aerosols. I used to use Ken Smith Pro Formula Polish. Not too many years ago, I bought some Gibson Guitar Polish in a package deal with a microfibre cloth. It smells the same as the Ken Smith and appears to work the same. I'd feel safe dampening a cloth with it to polish plated metal. It's very gentle, yet leaves a shine. Of course, it's great on the finished wood parts.
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Originally posted by Toothless in KentuckyThanks folks. I honestly thought there was some kind of nickel polish that players were using. I had no idea folks just used a rag. Whenever I do this, it seems like I'm just pushing smudges over to a new spot on the metal. I have been using an old white tube sock. I think it works better on the strings though.
Your old sock is plenty good. Thats all I use. Im not one to spend much time keeping a banjo pristine....(thats time taken away from learning a new lick or two) but i don't let em get grimy either. Eventually if you play the thing a while, tarnish, age, etc. etc. are gonna win anyway. Gives it character and shows it's been a good friend and ain't afraid to work hard and get a little dirty : )
If your armrest is giving you a problem with dullness, try using a wrist guard or the top of an old sock on your wrist/arm. That way your skin oils/dirt won't get on the metal and dull it. Also, cleaning the back of the neck and strings after each picking session with a clean, dry cloth helps keep everything clean and shiny.
I've worked with polishing different metals for years in the jewelry industry, and the most effective method for heavy tarnish is rouge. This can be found in rouge polishing cloths, available on ebay. There is another type of polishing cloth that uses chemicals and a very fine abrasive (this is how it is advertised) in it. Both these cloths are two cloths in one. The inner cloth is for polishing, the outer cloth is for cleaning off residue after polishing. I use both types of cloths; the light colored inner cloths (the rouge has the red inner cloth) is a bit less aggressive than the rouge cloth. I understand the light colored cloth also contains chemicals. Both these cloths remove some amount of metal, as can be seen on the cloth after use, but the amount is minuscule as compared with Simichrome or Brasso (Brasso is the more abrasive of these two). I have used both to clean up dust and grime on gold plating that is 100 millionths thick, much much thinner than nickel plating, without removing enough of the plating over time to have to resort to re-plating. The rouge in the cloth acts as a burnishing agent, just as it does on a buffing wheel, and there will be some rouge left on the part after rubbing it. The other side of the two layer cloth is there to remove the rouge after polishing.
These cloths will both work on nickel, and if used only when really needed, will not remove enough nickel over time to cause any real wear problems as you will see with more aggressive polishing compounds. You will be able to see the amount of metal removed by the color of the cloth changing to a darker shade in the places you use on it. I keep several of both kinds around to use on all the polished metal products in my house.
Edited by - rmcdow on 05/24/2022 05:03:53
Been using Semichrome on my Stelling Superstar at least two-times a year for over 40 years. The nickle plating looks fine with no thin spots.
I really like the the Connoisseurs Jewlery Wipes (available on Amazon) for my gold plated banjos - very gentle and leaves the gold looking beautiful.
Edited by - Cessna172 on 05/24/2022 07:11:24
Non-abrasive, works really well.
I prefer a "patina'ed" look on nickel plated parts, so I don't keep the hardware on my banjos pristine and sparkly, but I will use this stuff, when I buy a banjo, and "clean" the hardware.
Edited by - RioStat on 05/24/2022 10:19:14
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