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May 18, 2022 - 9:01:28 AM
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rinemb

USA

14624 posts since 5/24/2005

My ladder climbing days are over. I have a mature maple tree that over my garage that I am tired of cleaning the gutters or finding someone to pay to clean them out twice a year. These gutters fill with the propeller seeds in the spring. And the leaves on the fall.
It’s not necessarily that need to catch all the water, just most of it. Then I don’t want to have to get up there and pull out leaves stuck in or on the guards either.
Any recommendations on styles and brands?
Thanks, brad

May 18, 2022 - 9:31:52 AM
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wizofos

USA

6294 posts since 8/19/2012

We installed vinyl/plastic gutter screens at least 10 years ago and have not had to clean out or gutters since then. We do have oversize down spouts. We are having a new roof installed this summer and they are going to replace the gutter screens with the type of gutter covers that make the water flow into the gutter and the leaves and seeds fall over the side.
We do live in the woods and are surrounded by Maple and Hickory trees.
If you are going to install them yourself I would suggest the stainless steel screen types that Costco sells. You slide one side under the shingles and the other slides onto the gutter and locks into place without needing to be nailed or screwed on. I found this link which talks about the different types of gutter guards and the pro's and con's of each.

https://www.bobvila.com/articles/best-gutter-guards/

May 18, 2022 - 10:43:20 AM

2775 posts since 5/2/2012

We got our gutters done a few years ago, because of the same type of problem. Got oversize gutters and downspouts, plus the screens. With the original gutters (standard size at the time), the gutters would overflow when the rain was especially heavy. Can't tell how the screens work on the house (2 story), but seem to do their job on the garage. The screen solution is a relatively cheap option. One on the downsides is that the leaf litter (and seeds) sit on the screen and rain and/or the wind doesn't do a very good of blowing it off the screens. We looked at one of the ones that have the metal covers several years ago, but they were really expensive, even at that time.

May 18, 2022 - 12:37:03 PM
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RonR

USA

1942 posts since 11/29/2012

Gutter screen systems can be an expensive proposition if you hire a professional. The big box stores  have cheaper options that are almost always installed wrong by the home owner. If the installation involves tucking under the bottom edge of the shingles, you are disturbing intended flow of water across the most important part of your roof. Even with a system installed by a pro, nobody ever mentions the buildup of silt that occurs in the bottom of your gutter in 3 years, adding excessive weight to your gutter system and slowing the flow of water. Pay a kid to go up with a leaf blower once or twice a year.

Edited by - RonR on 05/18/2022 12:38:11

May 18, 2022 - 12:54:11 PM
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Owen

Canada

11221 posts since 6/5/2011

I picked up one of these a couple/few years back [don't recall exactly, probably at the yocal dump] but still haven't tried 'er out. Even with it a guy might have to get up there and take a look to make sure it did the job... at least the first time??

Dunno which says more, that somebody else chucked it, or that I haven't tried it. wink

30 in. Gutter-Cleaning Pressure Washer Wand

Edited by - Owen on 05/18/2022 13:04:44

May 18, 2022 - 2:19:20 PM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

27364 posts since 8/3/2003

Dave installed gutter screens on our home over 10 years ago. They work pretty good on keeping leaves out of the gutters, but after a few years, the dirt builds up and they need to be cleaned out. I've been lucky so far and my son has done it for me once since Dave died. Now that he's not living here, guess I'll have to pay someone when it needs to be done again.

May 18, 2022 - 3:34:29 PM

donc

Canada

6926 posts since 2/9/2010

About 10 years ago I removed the drain cone filters up top and installed trap boxes at knee level. One of the down pipes was replaced with a 3 inch diameter PVC pipe. They help a lot. The 1 1/2 x 2 1/2 rectangular traditional pipe was constantly clogging. .Much depends upon the kinds of leaves that fall. We have a gigantic cedar from next door. The brown buds are the size of raspberries and they seem to wash through o.k.. After a slight wind we get loads of broken twigs and boughs and they are a disaster. Maple leaves are another impossibility. I'm up there at least twice a year but at least my 2 storey house has a shallow pitched roof. I've tried leaf guard type devices and they just seem to trap the debris on top. We get a ton of rain here and the filter screens are not that popular. Another fad that didn't work was the gutters where the water runs over the top and gets trapped half way over the side. They are impossible to clean out when they eventually do fill up with debris.

May 18, 2022 - 5:26:07 PM

bubbalouie

Canada

15975 posts since 9/27/2007

When I worked as a maintenance man at a resort I was friends with one of the cooks. A small athletic guy.

I'm scared of heights & dreaded gutter cleaning & Cookie said he didn't have a problem with it. When gutter cleaning day came I'd be the ladder man & he would sit on his heels on the very edge of the roof & scoop them out with an old spoon! Made me dizzy just watching him. Some of the edges were close to a cliff!

I wish he was still around. I have a few high wire jobs right now. 

May 18, 2022 - 6:22:08 PM
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rinemb

USA

14624 posts since 5/24/2005

For many years I paid a guy to come spring and fall. Then he got out of the biz. I did them last year and the ladder got away from me. I was lucky to get away with only some bruising and feeling old. Plus I took out an entire 3 piece sitting grouping of outdoor antique style furniture-smashed them to bits. I hid them behind the garage. That was great until spring arrived and my wife started wondering around back there. Its a pia to find a someone else, then make the arrangements to be there and unlock gates, wait on them for hours, then pay them cash, etc.
Brad

May 18, 2022 - 6:51:07 PM

13205 posts since 1/15/2005

I would not get the screens. We had then for 20 years and I had to clean them about every year. The little green pollen “worms” plus other debris clogged them every year. They were a pain to clean. About 5 years ago we bought new gutters where the water runs over the top into an opening slit on the side. So far they have worked well.

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May 19, 2022 - 5:57:04 AM

7960 posts since 9/5/2006

i have been trying to find someone to clean my 2nd story gutters for 2 weeks. 2- 25 ft long 18 feet high clear access,,2 quotes both 250 dollars,,, i ain't payin no 250 dollars for 1 hours work. the wife has told me not to do it,,plus i don't have a 20 ft ladder,,but i may sneak and borrow one and do it anyway.

May 19, 2022 - 6:50:48 AM

11150 posts since 6/17/2003

I've found they work for a while, but then dirt still gets in and the gutters can't easily be cleaned. I took them off and returned to using a leaf blower to clean them out in short order 2-3 times a year. I usually go on the roof to check it a couple of times a year anyway.

May 19, 2022 - 7:09:47 AM
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heavy5

USA

2281 posts since 11/3/2016

Must be a lot of $ being made from these gutter guards/screens/leaf filters as the commercials for them have taken over the frequency of "car repair insurance adds" on TV & elsewhere !

Edited by - heavy5 on 05/19/2022 07:12:59

May 19, 2022 - 7:46:03 AM

1055 posts since 3/7/2006

When my gutters were installed, it cost me an additional $200 with vinyl the siding installation. But that was 25 years ago, and now I am due for major maintenance or replacement. I did call Leaf Guard about one year ago, and the quote was ridiculous, something like $35 per lin ft. Perhaps it was the cute lady agent they sent. I will soon do a maintenance or upgrade and do something at the same time. The whole thing can't be much more expensive than that quote, surly. Otherwise, the ladder is definitely coming out again.

May 19, 2022 - 5:32:36 PM
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rinemb

USA

14624 posts since 5/24/2005

A leaf blower does not work very well in my case. gutter trash often wet, or gets packed it like a birds nest of sticks, leaves mud, etc. I can not hardly flood them clean. it takes getting up there, and be hand scooping out the crud, then cleaning up all the stuff taken out of them. Brad

May 19, 2022 - 6:25:29 PM
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donc

Canada

6926 posts since 2/9/2010

I used 3 piece 25 foot ladders at work for many years of installing or replacing telephone drop wires. . There is nothing wrong with being nervous around a ladder. Most accidents are caused by an improper setup. That would include an angle that was too steep or not steep enough. A ladder should always be at least 3 rungs above the edge of the roof. If you are tall and you have to get on the roof you could go 4 rungs over the top. There is nothing worse than trying to get on to a ladder that is too short when you want to come down. Spend adequate time making sure it is reasonably level with wood under one or both feet if necessary. Tie 2 guy ropes from the ladder mid point to a sturdy anchor point in each direction so that the ladder won't fall backwards or sideways in any direction. Always keep at least 1 hand and 1 foot in place as you move up. If you are still nervous, that's good ! Take your time and stay safe.

May 19, 2022 - 6:30:43 PM

RonR

USA

1942 posts since 11/29/2012

If you dont climb for a living, you are better off on the ground.

May 19, 2022 - 7:15:58 PM
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slammer

USA

3646 posts since 12/30/2008

Gutters SUCK !!! There is no good answer , other than living in the dessert with the closest leaf bearing tree being hundreds of miles away. Living in da U.P., my house is surrounded by oaks, maples, pines and popple trees.
I had gutter guards and removed them because we had soooooo much debris sitting on top not letting the water through. Granted , our situation is severe compared to most. Starts with the maple shedding it’s red buds, then the snakey yellow things from the oaks, and helicopters from the maples and fuzz from the popples, not to mention all the yellow pollen. I have a large Stihl backpack blower and made an attachment out of PVC pipe and blow out my gutters 3-4 times a year. Only takes me 5-10 minutes each time, but is still a messy job and PITA !!!
There is NO good answer, other than move to the dessert!!!
Slammer!!!

May 20, 2022 - 7:52:49 PM
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rinemb

USA

14624 posts since 5/24/2005

well there is now way I would pay $35 per foot. guess I will contribute to job security for the gutter cleaner folks. Brad

May 21, 2022 - 10:57:56 AM

4205 posts since 11/29/2005

quote:
Originally posted by donc

I used 3 piece 25 foot ladders at work for many years of installing or replacing telephone drop wires. . There is nothing wrong with being nervous around a ladder. Most accidents are caused by an improper setup. That would include an angle that was too steep or not steep enough. A ladder should always be at least 3 rungs above the edge of the roof. If you are tall and you have to get on the roof you could go 4 rungs over the top. There is nothing worse than trying to get on to a ladder that is too short when you want to come down. Spend adequate time making sure it is reasonably level with wood under one or both feet if necessary. Tie 2 guy ropes from the ladder mid point to a sturdy anchor point in each direction so that the ladder won't fall backwards or sideways in any direction. Always keep at least 1 hand and 1 foot in place as you move up. If you are still nervous, that's good ! Take your time and stay safe.


Exactly!  I always preferred my gaffs over ladders or (after having one pull out on me and leave me hanging by one hand), the "steps." 

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