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Dec 6, 2021 - 8:48:12 AM
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And the survey says.. Always liked that leadin, anyway this is a snip it.

The final 2021 College Football Playoff selection show was Sunday, Dec. 5. As the last of six CFP rankings shows, the four teams who will play in the CFP semifinals were revealed: No. 1 Alabama, No. 2 Michigan, No. 3 Georgia and No. 4 Cincinnati. You can see the final rankings here.

Alabama will play Cincinnati in the Cotton Bowl while Michigan faces Georgia in the Orange Bowl.

Does Cincinnati have a chance? I believe the Michigan Georgia game is a better matchup. Could there be a possible SEC match up in the Championship game? This is going to be good.

Edited by - 5B-Ranch on 12/06/2021 08:48:56

Dec 6, 2021 - 9:51:22 AM
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I do think Cincinnati has a chance against Alabama.   They have the type of offense that has given Bama trouble in the past.  Also the Bearcats has several NFL quality corner backs which will be huge against Bama receivers ..... especially with Metchie out.   Not sure anyone can cover Jameson Williams though.  It ought to be an interesting game, although I do expect Bama to win.

I think Georgia's really soft schedule caught up with them in the SEC Championship game.  Clemson may have been the best team they beat and in that game their offense only scored 3 points.  I kind of like Michigan in that game, as they have thetype of team that can play physical football with teams like Georgia.

Dec 6, 2021 - 10:09:11 AM
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banjo bill-e

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11799 posts since 2/22/2007

Bama played their best game of the year against Georgia. Whether they can play that well again will be the story.

Dec 6, 2021 - 10:29:50 AM
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The Georgia defense didn't go after the Bama QB like they have been doing all year. The change in tactic led to a lot of misplays and too many people open.

Georgia will beat Michigan handily and the final will be Georgia 24 Alabama 17

Dec 6, 2021 - 10:42:50 AM
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25514 posts since 6/25/2005

Texas A&M and Auburn showed Alabama isn’t a lock. I tend to think Michigan has a real chance. Turnovers will likely be the key.

Dec 6, 2021 - 12:15:03 PM
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Originally posted by Knows Picker

The Georgia defense didn't go after the Bama QB like they have been doing all year. The change in tactic led to a lot of misplays and too many people open.

Georgia will beat Michigan handily and the final will be Georgia 24 Alabama 17


I'm not sure that they were able to go after them.  If they were only rushing three and four, and keeping their linebackers in pass coverage, then  Bryce Young's 421 passing yards would indicate that scheme didn't work too well.  Maybe they will meet again, but I'm not sure that they can beat Michigan. Some of UGA's huge D-linemen, I think, also had trouble with the tempo that Bama was running.  I don't think Michigan runs a fast tempo offense, so maybe they will fare better.  We will see.

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Dec 6, 2021 - 12:39:22 PM
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banjo bill-e

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11799 posts since 2/22/2007

This is Bryce Young's first year as starter, and he is just now beginning to show his potential, which is huge, already setting records. He has needed time in the past on pass plays but he is getting quicker with decision making, has better awareness of the pocket collapsing around him, and as noted, he got the protection that he needed Saturday. He will need some healthy targets to throw to but if that is available than points will be scored.

Dec 6, 2021 - 1:46:29 PM

10669 posts since 8/22/2006

Just heard that BYU is invited/headed for our bowl game Independence Bowl. A better than a 6 win team for a change playing against UAB I think that would be University of Alabama Birmingham? After research....UAB 8-4 record wow about time we had two programs with decent season records. 

Edited by - 5B-Ranch on 12/06/2021 13:50:20

Dec 6, 2021 - 3:32:41 PM
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This is Bryce Young's first year as starter, and he is just now beginning to show his potential, which is huge, already setting records. He has needed time in the past on pass plays but he is getting quicker with decision making, has better awareness of the pocket collapsing around him, and as noted, he got the protection that he needed Saturday. He will need some healthy targets to throw to but if that is available than points will be scored.


I was impressed with Bryce all year and I expect him to be in New York for the Heisman ceremony.  If the voters waited until after the SEC Championship game I think he has a great shot at winning it.  One of his worse games was last week versus Auburn, but when the chips were down and they needed him to step up, he did.  He is a drop back passer and if I recall I don't think there was a single running play designed for him in the SEC Championship (maybe one when he lateraled late to his RB).  he extended several plays with his legs and had several off-schedule runs when he couldn't find a receiver.  Most of the time he just sat back there and waited for his receiver to clear or threw them open ...... outstanding!

Dec 7, 2021 - 10:06:07 AM
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Every sport except football selects its champion through "on the field" competition. We have many teams with identical or near identical records and a committee picks which 4 teams will compete. And one of the four teams picked could not win its conference championship. There is no "perfect" answer to this problem, but in IMHO the current process "stinks". I watch a lot of football and I am not even convinced some of the selected teams could beat Utah. Just because the press and sports "experts" don't mention Utah often doesn't mean they are not worthy of competing for national championship. Teams other than Utah may br legitimate contenders for national championship. I never heard much or saw much about Utah unless they were playing Oregon. After watching them play and beat Oregon twice I wondered why. Note that I am not a resident of Utah, a westerner, or in any way connected with that school.

I don't want to read any "bull" about strength of schedule. Until there is a significant amount interconference play by the football powerhouse teams, ratings are almost meaningless. That is why upsets occur. Did the experts pick App State to win over Michigan and North Carolina during different seasons ? This years final #1 ranked team's non-conference foes were Miami, Mercer, and New Mexico State. If a conference does not play high quality opponents outside the conference, how can the level of play be determined ?

I sometime seems that when games are discussed, "experts" and I are not in agreement. After one game it was said the team "stormed back". I watched the game, and the winning team was never behind scorewise.

Dec 8, 2021 - 5:31:57 AM
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i think bama will have the most trouble with cincis speed and defense..they have one of the best interception ranks in the country and sack rate is very high also... if bryce can keep his wheels going he will be alright.. so the running game for bama is going to be the key for them. if they rely on the passing game fully it may be a different story.
and i am not so sure georgia is going to roll over michigan either.. that should be a great match up.

and WAKE  has made it to the gator bowl  YAY !!!!    GO DEACS !!!!

Edited by - 1935tb-11 on 12/08/2021 05:34:28

Dec 8, 2021 - 8:04:31 AM

12835 posts since 1/15/2005

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Originally posted by Richard Hauser

Every sport except football selects its champion through "on the field" competition. We have many teams with identical or near identical records and a committee picks which 4 teams will compete. And one of the four teams picked could not win its conference championship. There is no "perfect" answer to this problem, but in IMHO the current process "stinks". I watch a lot of football and I am not even convinced some of the selected teams could beat Utah. Just because the press and sports "experts" don't mention Utah often doesn't mean they are not worthy of competing for national championship. Teams other than Utah may br legitimate contenders for national championship. I never heard much or saw much about Utah unless they were playing Oregon. After watching them play and beat Oregon twice I wondered why. Note that I am not a resident of Utah, a westerner, or in any way connected with that school.

I don't want to read any "bull" about strength of schedule. Until there is a significant amount interconference play by the football powerhouse teams, ratings are almost meaningless. That is why upsets occur. Did the experts pick App State to win over Michigan and North Carolina during different seasons ? This years final #1 ranked team's non-conference foes were Miami, Mercer, and New Mexico State. If a conference does not play high quality opponents outside the conference, how can the level of play be determined ?

I sometime seems that when games are discussed, "experts" and I are not in agreement. After one game it was said the team "stormed back". I watched the game, and the winning team was never behind scorewise.


I pretty much agree with you.  I am kind of the opinion that if you are not the conference champion (like UGA), you have no business in the play-offs.  The object of the play-off is to identify the best team in college football, so we already know (convincingly) that UGA is not the best.  Most inter-conference play (especially in the SEC) is pathetic.  I guess they justify it by claiming that their conference is so strong, they should not have to play strong Power 5 conference teams not in their own conference.  I do understand playing an in-state FBS team so that it gives them a huge financial boost, but I sure don't like watching them though.

Regarding Utah ..... I sure would not want to play them now, but you have to consider that they had two pretty bad losses (Sand Diego State and Oregon State) in the middle of the season.  You could probably overlook one of the losses, but not both.  They sure pass the "eye test" when I have seen them play.

Dec 8, 2021 - 8:15:28 AM

12835 posts since 1/15/2005

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Originally posted by 1935tb-11

i think bama will have the most trouble with cincis speed and defense..they have one of the best interception ranks in the country and sack rate is very high also... if bryce can keep his wheels going he will be alright.. so the running game for bama is going to be the key for them. if they rely on the passing game fully it may be a different story.
and i am not so sure georgia is going to roll over michigan either.. that should be a great match up.

and WAKE  has made it to the gator bowl  YAY !!!!    GO DEACS !!!!


With you on the Deacs ..... my daughter's alma mater!

Agree with you on the UGA - Michigan match-up.  I will say that UGA should match up better against them than Bama.  I think Michigan's strength is their running game and that is UGA's defensive strength.  Bama did not run for a lot of yards against them, but then again Bama had trouble running against several teams.

I certainly favor Bama, but am not going to rule Cinci out because of their all round offensive and defensive capabilities.  I really like Bryce's passing game and his ability to extend plays, so that should be a great match-up against Cinci's defensive backs.

Dec 8, 2021 - 9:37:17 AM

424 posts since 4/11/2019

The real problem that needs to be addressed is the sheer size of Division 1. Impossible to determine an overall winner with that many teams and so much difference in capability.
I would much rather see a tiered system like used in English football, with about 30 teams in the top tier. Just like in England, at the end of the season the bottom of the barrel (3, 4, 5? teams) drops down a tier and the best from the lower division would move up.

The result would be many more competitive games on a weekly basis, everyone gets to keep their hometown team, every team would have a shot at the "playoffs," even if means a Tier Two Championship.

I'm tired of arguing who's got a better team, the one who creamed the Girls Cosmetology School or the one who routed the Chiropractors.

Settle it on the field.

Dec 8, 2021 - 3:12:23 PM
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Originally posted by Knows Picker

The real problem that needs to be addressed is the sheer size of Division 1. Impossible to determine an overall winner with that many teams and so much difference in capability.
I would much rather see a tiered system like used in English football, with about 30 teams in the top tier. Just like in England, at the end of the season the bottom of the barrel (3, 4, 5? teams) drops down a tier and the best from the lower division would move up.

The result would be many more competitive games on a weekly basis, everyone gets to keep their hometown team, every team would have a shot at the "playoffs," even if means a Tier Two Championship.

I'm tired of arguing who's got a better team, the one who creamed the Girls Cosmetology School or the one who routed the Chiropractors.

Settle it on the field.


Well, they have kind of done that now with the Power Five Conferences and then the Group of Five.  Of course the Group of Five conferences are kind of looked at like step children and they don't think they get a fair shake.  This year Cincinnati got in so they kind of broke the glass ceiling.  Using a system like the English Soccer just would not work because it is just too complicated ..... especially because scheduling for teams is sometimes done six, eight, or ten years in advance.

Plus, never forget, it is all about money ..... so there you have it!

Dec 9, 2021 - 4:39:30 AM

424 posts since 4/11/2019

Yes, the money part ruins everything.

Can't wait to see the MegaDogs beat up on VoTech Tech.

Spot the Techies 75 points and its game on!!

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