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Dec 5, 2021 - 5:00:14 PM
2 posts since 9/21/2015

Does anyone have a bronze one-piece flange they're willing to part with? Steve Ryan has to make them in batches, and I just want one. Plated or unplated. Thanks!

Dec 5, 2021 - 5:06:55 PM

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I would like an unplated one myself but have seen nothing for sale.

Dec 5, 2021 - 8:58:01 PM

1177 posts since 11/17/2005

What is the purpose of a bronze flange?

Dec 7, 2021 - 3:32:42 AM
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Helix

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15031 posts since 8/30/2006

It's a sound thang.

Dec 7, 2021 - 6:25:41 AM
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75315 posts since 5/9/2007

StewMac put them in their kits for years.Same recipe as their tone rings.

Dec 7, 2021 - 4:10:10 PM

1177 posts since 11/17/2005

quote:
Originally posted by Helix

It's a sound thang.


I figured, but what is the sound difference supposed to be?

Do most people agree that it makes a difference?

I've never heard of this. 

Dec 7, 2021 - 4:39:53 PM

14133 posts since 6/29/2005

quote:
Originally posted by jason999
quote:
Originally posted by Helix

It's a sound thang.


I figured, but what is the sound difference supposed to be?

Do most people agree that it makes a difference?

I've never heard of this. 


It would certainly make it a lot heavier.  I think the dead sound of pot metal flanges and tension hoops is a contributor to the Mastertone sound people like. I have no idea what the difference (if any) would be with bronze.

I believe the Great Lakes top tension banjos like Bill Keith's had bronze flanges.

Dec 7, 2021 - 5:16:15 PM

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I don't think it is too different from the sound of a brass flange- which is pretty common even with mastertones. Most Gibson two-piece flanges are brass, right?

Dec 8, 2021 - 3:11:43 AM
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Helix

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15031 posts since 8/30/2006

There is a tap tone produced by each type of product.
I have a brand new RK flange that has a certain formula and a different tone than brass or bronze.
Toss it in the air and hit it with a screwdriver, you'll see.
It's how the molecules connect and communicate with each other.
I have a cheap mastertone type ring here and the tap tone is more like "chunk."

Since the banjo is greater than the sum of its parts, and the cloning and "tastes just like chicken" approach to metallurgy and specs. is with each type of import and domestic product alike, If one knew whether pot metal or bronze or brass was resident then it would "tell" in the way the banjo sounded. Stretcher bands are tension hoops are tension rings and circles, too. It's what they are made of that shows.

Dec 8, 2021 - 7:34:07 AM

75315 posts since 5/9/2007

After living with both for many years I prefer the zinc flange.
The pot metal flange seems to contribute to a punchy,dry tone while the bronze flange (and tension hoop) contribute to more sustain/less crispness,imo.

Dec 8, 2021 - 9:33:13 AM

14133 posts since 6/29/2005

quote:
Originally posted by steve davis

After living with both for many years I prefer the zinc flange.
The pot metal flange seems to contribute to a punchy,dry tone while the bronze flange (and tension hoop) contribute to more sustain/less crispness,imo.


That makes perfect sense.

Dec 8, 2021 - 3:14:54 PM

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I wonder if the tension hoop and coordinator rods might contribute more to the sound than the flange. I think you can get a really dry sound from a two-piece flange if you have a pot metal tension hoop and steel coordinator rods.

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