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Nov 28, 2021 - 5:55:49 PM

Owen

Canada

10083 posts since 6/5/2011
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How to store milk that comes in plastic bags in Canada - Quora

For a while, 'way back [if/when the cow went dry] we bought it that way.  I found this article interesting:

https://www.tvo.org/article/think-bagged-milk-is-weird-think-again?fbclid=IwAR0HPNPBslL7BuqFJiINb3IUi4SfeIfuS8KUnZ90w2wgleEB8GQSYuHJ58I  

.... and hopefully the "contentiousness" level will pass muster. wink

Nov 28, 2021 - 6:17:28 PM

bubbalouie

Canada

15680 posts since 9/27/2007
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We had this in Yawnterrible!  4 liters of milk in three bags.  You take a sealed bag of milk & clunk it down solid in your plastic pitcher holder. It's not that hard. Cut the corner off & pour it out.

People try to make it seem odd but I think they see it in some of the Northern states too!

It's not like cutting open a balloon full of milk & hoping some goes in your coffee!

Nov 28, 2021 - 6:22:27 PM
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Brian T

Canada

19013 posts since 6/5/2008

Remember those big stainless steel milk dispenser cabinets in cafe's?
The milk was in udder-sized bags with white rubber hose spouts.
I'd rather do without, thanks.

Nov 28, 2021 - 6:29:48 PM
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bubbalouie

Canada

15680 posts since 9/27/2007
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The bag holding all 3 bags was fastened with a bread tag or what used to be called a 3Am. guitar pick.

My brother & I drank gallons of milk in our early teens. We used to hook the tags on the rungs of the fridge & we'd cut the corner off the bags back into the drawer with the scissors just to get her going! She was pretty Feisty!!!

Five foot frig All! 

Nov 28, 2021 - 7:25:43 PM
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chuckv97

Canada

61596 posts since 10/5/2013

Milk outta bags,, yep. Then I saw wine in boxes… sheesh. Winos like me couldn’t break the bottle if we dropped it….

Nov 28, 2021 - 7:39:40 PM

924 posts since 10/4/2018

I don't drink milk, but I would give it a taste if someone bought some. I bet it's good for cooking and baking. Is it cheaper than cartoned milk?

Nov 28, 2021 - 7:46:31 PM
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Brian T

Canada

19013 posts since 6/5/2008

Milk? Mom thought it was a money-saver to cut regular milk with water+ powdered milk.

Wine boxes are really economical. Plus, you can use them over and over again with your local wine-brewing gang. 27mm chamfered corks were going for $285/1,000, back in my day.
If I did up 450 liters, that was at least $128.00 for the corks alone. Those boxes will really hold an Imperial gallon, 4.5 liters, 160 oz. Just for the stores they don't fully load them. Maybe you see 3 liters? I was saving maybe $1.40 per box on the corks. Friends were good donors. They sure bought some nasty, nasty wine.

I first saw the boxes in OZ, about 1970. You could offer a glass of 15 wines and never worry about oxidation. One difference being you could take 5 gal water jugs to a winery and buy bulk. Then sulfite the old boxes and rebox the new wines.

Nov 28, 2021 - 9:26:03 PM
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Paul R

Canada

15394 posts since 1/28/2010

You may think milk bags are udderly ridiculous until you see the environmental impact comparisons.

Nov 28, 2021 - 9:30:55 PM
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Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

25523 posts since 6/25/2005

Not really different than wine in a box—which is really wine in a bag in a box.

Nov 29, 2021 - 4:46:39 AM

figmo59

USA

34669 posts since 3/5/2008

Utterly rediculous........

Nov 29, 2021 - 5:12:16 AM

132 posts since 11/9/2021

Udderly silly.

Nov 29, 2021 - 5:42:10 AM
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DC5

USA

22070 posts since 6/30/2015

I want either smaller containers available, or air tight containers that remain that way. In other words, a bag that did not allow air into the bag. This would keep the milk fresher longer. As soon as you open a milk container you introduce air and the bacteria begins it's work. I buy 1/2 gallon cartons of milk, but often end up throwing out some because it has spoiled by the time I get to the bottom. This, by the way, shows how much I've cut my milk intake, since I used to buy in gallon jugs and would go through at least 2 a week - and that's when I was living alone. Now I doubt I use 6 oz. a day on average. The bags would make sense to me if they were either smaller, or they could keep the milk fresher after opening.

Nov 29, 2021 - 6:34:12 AM

4100 posts since 4/22/2018

Going back some 35-40 years, if I recall correctly, all of the fresh milk we bought on holidays to spain was in bags. The UHT stuff was in plastic bottles but all of the fresh was in plastic bags.

Nov 29, 2021 - 6:41:49 AM
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Banjo Lefty

Canada

2455 posts since 6/19/2014

What didn't understand was why reusable glass bottles are considered bad for the environment. The author asserts this at the beginning of the article, but provides no further explanation, let alone any evidence. Surely anything reusable is better than a single use material, and we already use glass in so many other containers, like wine. Also it won't foul the ocean -- it doesn't float.

Nov 29, 2021 - 6:44:40 AM

KCJones

USA

1548 posts since 8/30/2012

You see this in Wisconsin, pretty common. You save maybe $0.50/gallon and it generates less waste. The milk is exactly the same as what comes in the cartons/jugs. If you think about it, a plastic milk jug is basically the same as a bag except the plastic is thicker and rigid. 

We also have the old school glass half-gallons with a $1.50 deposit, which is what I prefer because the milk is much higher quality. But it's like $8/gallon so definitely not an economical option. I think it comes from the Amish.

When I was a kid my mom had a metal pitcher and we'd walk to the neighbors and skim milk off the top of the bulk tank. That was the best milk you've ever had. Now all the bulk tanks are sealed so you can't do that anymore.

Edited by - KCJones on 11/29/2021 06:45:18

Nov 29, 2021 - 6:56:10 AM

phb

Germany

3113 posts since 11/8/2010

I remember those from my childhood. Some of the bags always leaked. Now they seem to have returned.

We have one brand of regional milk that has a better package than that. Also a plastic bag but with some inflated and sealed portions that makes the bag able to stand on its own and can be used as a handle. The outlet has a rip-off portion (no scissors required) and only opens when you pour milk and sticks flat together again just from adhesion when you are done.

Nov 29, 2021 - 10:13:39 AM

Paul R

Canada

15394 posts since 1/28/2010

quote:
Originally posted by Banjo Lefty

What didn't understand was why reusable glass bottles are considered bad for the environment. The author asserts this at the beginning of the article, but provides no further explanation, let alone any evidence. Surely anything reusable is better than a single use material, and we already use glass in so many other containers, like wine. Also it won't foul the ocean -- it doesn't float.


It might be judged by how much water is used to clean it.

Nov 29, 2021 - 10:19:57 AM

YellowSkyBlueSun

Virgin Islands (U.S.)

612 posts since 5/11/2021

quote:
Originally posted by Paul R
quote:
Originally posted by Banjo Lefty

What didn't understand was why reusable glass bottles are considered bad for the environment. The author asserts this at the beginning of the article, but provides no further explanation, let alone any evidence. Surely anything reusable is better than a single use material, and we already use glass in so many other containers, like wine. Also it won't foul the ocean -- it doesn't float.


It might be judged by how much water is used to clean it.


Or how much fuel it costs to transport.

Nov 29, 2021 - 11:20:59 AM
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DC5

USA

22070 posts since 6/30/2015

quote:
Originally posted by Banjo Lefty

What didn't understand was why reusable glass bottles are considered bad for the environment. The author asserts this at the beginning of the article, but provides no further explanation, let alone any evidence. Surely anything reusable is better than a single use material, and we already use glass in so many other containers, like wine. Also it won't foul the ocean -- it doesn't float.


The carbon footprint to manufacture the glass, combined with the hot water and bleach to clean the bottles.  When I was a kid, returnable glass bottles were standard fare.  The first no deposit no return bottles were also glass, but thinner, and this was going to save millions of gallons of hot water, then came plastic.  Every solution creates new problems.  The New York times once championed the automobile as an end to pollution. 

Nov 30, 2021 - 6:41:01 AM

7407 posts since 9/5/2006

quote:
Originally posted by DC5
quote:
Originally posted by Banjo Lefty

What didn't understand was why reusable glass bottles are considered bad for the environment. The author asserts this at the beginning of the article, but provides no further explanation, let alone any evidence. Surely anything reusable is better than a single use material, and we already use glass in so many other containers, like wine. Also it won't foul the ocean -- it doesn't float.


The carbon footprint to manufacture the glass, combined with the hot water and bleach to clean the bottles.  When I was a kid, returnable glass bottles were standard fare.  The first no deposit no return bottles were also glass, but thinner, and this was going to save millions of gallons of hot water, then came plastic.  Every solution creates new problems.  The New York times once championed the automobile as an end to pollution. 


i have no faith on anything that comes from the NYT... plus i always thought milk tasted better out of the glass containers.. when i lived with my grandma we used to get 2 half gallons every morning ,,my job was to take the empties out and put them in the rack and get the filled ones in.  biltmore i think was the brand.....

Nov 30, 2021 - 8:35:41 AM
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rinemb

USA

14247 posts since 5/24/2005

Me kids were pre-box and straw kids. So, don't ask me to open your box drink. Every time I force that tiny straw into the box, it spews out of the straw like a hose.

Only time I have to deal with them is after I give blood, in the snack room.
Mustard and ketchup packets from the convenience stores are a close second.
Wine boxes, I have mastered by much experience.
Never seen milk in a bag yet.

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