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Nov 27, 2021 - 5:54:58 AM
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rinemb

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14247 posts since 5/24/2005

Farm raised tree shearing has homogenized most tree varieties produced for the holiday. Shearing produces uniform cone shapes with more density of branches.
Ok, for Frazier’s and Balsams…but it has ruined the character and reasons for a Douglas fir. We desire irregular shape, with openess between branches. I need to find where I can “wildcut” Douglas firs. Arggghhh! Brad

Nov 27, 2021 - 6:41:28 AM

75315 posts since 5/9/2007

I cut my own balsams as they grow.

Nov 27, 2021 - 7:15:17 AM
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Owen

Canada

10066 posts since 6/5/2011

...I realize you're not asking for advice [fwiw, that hasn't stopped me before] but I figure you've just got your sights set too high.  [We switched to artificial when we left the farm a couple of decades back.]  In 1974, I was in Pine Point, NWT  [60.83 N lat.] and the trees weren't exactly "full." So in the hallway of our apartment I set up a "Charlie Brown tree," [and even put a small sign "Merry Christmas, from Charlie Brown."   A guy visiting another tenant might have missed the sign when he harrumped: "You'd think they could have found a better tree than that!" 

58 Charlie Brown Christmas Tree Photos and Premium High Res Pictures -  Getty Images

Nov 27, 2021 - 7:25:48 AM
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DC5

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I went artificial 4 years ago, and haven't looked back. One less fire hazard in the house, along with ease of setup and not vacuuming needles for the next 4 months was enough incentive for me. I miss the smell, but nothing else. Don't even need to string lights because it is pre-wired.

Nov 27, 2021 - 7:31:50 AM

Owen

Canada

10066 posts since 6/5/2011

... abbra-ca-dabbra:

About | Little Trees

... isn't magic one of your specialties, Dave?   wink

Nov 27, 2021 - 8:45:15 AM

75315 posts since 5/9/2007

I like real trees because they're free.

Nov 27, 2021 - 9:00:22 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by steve davis

I like real trees because they're free.


in north carolina you can't hardly find a wild growing frasier fur tree,,,,

we went artificial a few years ago,,, bingo bango ,, pop up,,christmas tree ,,,, lights and all,,

Nov 27, 2021 - 9:02:21 AM
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DC5

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quote:
Originally posted by Owen

... abbra-ca-dabbra:

About | Little Trees

... isn't magic one of your specialties, Dave?   wink


I want one that smells like pine, not soap or perfume. Tried a candle last year that was supposed to smell like pine.  Threw it out 5 minutes after lighting it.

Nov 27, 2021 - 9:09:23 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Owen

... abbra-ca-dabbra:

About | Little Trees

... isn't magic one of your specialties, Dave?   wink


I want one that smells like pine, not soap or perfume. Tried a candle last year that was supposed to smell like pine.  Threw it out 5 minutes after lighting it.


go cut some pine or cedar branches and hide them behind the TV

Nov 27, 2021 - 9:36:15 AM

75315 posts since 5/9/2007

I think candles should be illegal.

Nov 27, 2021 - 11:07:47 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by steve davis

I think candles should be illegal.


And do you have a reason for this?  They sure come in handy in a power failure.

Nov 27, 2021 - 11:47:46 AM
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rinemb

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14247 posts since 5/24/2005

quote:
Originally posted by DC5
quote:
Originally posted by steve davis

I think candles should be illegal.


And do you have a reason for this?  They sure come in handy in a power failure.


Maybe, due to bee shortage, we should not be using their wax? Brad

Nov 27, 2021 - 12:35:06 PM
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Brian T

Canada

18998 posts since 6/5/2008

Modern candles are all petroleum wax. Only the fancy Lah-Dee-Dah candles are beeswax.

I have a living fig tree in the corner of my living room. About 6' high and 6' wide.
It sits in 50# dirt in a pot on caster wheels.
It is decorated with strings of little lights and some wood carving ornaments.
I just add to it. I never take it apart.
The End.

Nov 27, 2021 - 1:46:45 PM
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DC5

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quote:
Originally posted by rinemb
quote:
Originally posted by DC5
quote:
Originally posted by steve davis

I think candles should be illegal.


And do you have a reason for this?  They sure come in handy in a power failure.


Maybe, due to bee shortage, we should not be using their wax? Brad


But if they're dead, what are they going to do with it?

Nov 27, 2021 - 2:25:33 PM

Brian T

Canada

18998 posts since 6/5/2008

The growing season is short here so the bees can make good use of a head start.
Refined bees wax sheets are printed with the hexagon shapes of the honey comb.
These are mounted in the supers to give the bees huge fresh foundations to build on.

We have all kinds of 2' - 10' conifers growing in the ditches along the highways and logging roads.
You just wallow into the ditch, pick the one you want and use a bucksaw to bring it down.
This was always quite the performance when the kids were little. Hot chocolate, camp fire, marshmallows. THEN, we cut the tree.

For the past 25(?) years, the fig tree in the living room has been doing it's job, 24/7.

Nov 27, 2021 - 3:25:32 PM

bubbalouie

Canada

15662 posts since 9/27/2007

I see a sign everyday. Christmas Trees $26. That sounds reasonable. I haven't seen them but they are probably decent growing here on the wet Coast.

We have cat proof ceramic tree decoration that I'm surprised has lasted this long! 

Nov 27, 2021 - 4:24:08 PM
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Give me the good ol’ Christmas tree that everyone passes by at the tree sale place. The one with missing branches you’ll have to put in a corner. Give me the ones where the needles start .to fall as soon as you tie it to the top of the car, Give me the 7 foot tree you have to cut the 1 foot off the bottom because it’s too fat and crooked to fit into the antique tree stand grandpa made back in ‘03 .....You know the one....the one that smells like bear pee.....but when she’s all decorated up bells bows lights and popcorn chain...and on Christmas morning with all the presents beneath on top of grandma’s crochet Christmas tree skirt......she’ll show just fine....they always do.

Nov 27, 2021 - 5:06:11 PM

Brian T

Canada

18998 posts since 6/5/2008

Pee-trees are Abies sp.= true firs. Smell worse than cats.

Decades ago, I used to buy my Mom a little clean spruce tree in a 5 gal bucket of dirt.
A few trinkets, a few lights, a little tinsel and it was a done-deal. Thing was to plant the tree
in her back yard each year. HOLY TOOT but did those things ever grow.
Had a tree service cut the lower 8-10' of branches off them one year
or the back yard would have been a write-off.

Slow down. Find some old people and take them to a tree farm. Hot chocolate and pick trees to cut. Share your decorations when they can't remember where they keep the boxes of old tree stuff. Go home. Big snort in front of the fire. Wake up at 4 AM and go to bed.

Nov 27, 2021 - 5:06:30 PM
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rinemb

USA

14247 posts since 5/24/2005

Tree character we long for. Open with room to hang ornaments deep into tree. Etc.


 

Edited by - rinemb on 11/27/2021 17:07:06

Nov 27, 2021 - 5:26:58 PM
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Brian T

Canada

18998 posts since 6/5/2008

Brad, I have to pass. Hang the thing outdoors, outside your biggest window.
It's family. It's the people at your table. We are all alive, nothing else matters.
Nothing.

It's dogs and cats and grandchildren running wild. It's chaos for 10 days.
Windows fogged from cooking mountains of food.

What color were the lights on the tree? In a year, you won't care.
The picture of the grandkid covered with chocolate ice cream drools? Priceless.

Nov 27, 2021 - 6:43:30 PM
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kww

USA

1478 posts since 6/21/2008

I used to buy the little 3' tall live trees. Only one survived transplant shock, but it's still doing quite well in the front yard of the first house I ever owned.


 

Nov 28, 2021 - 8:44:23 AM

75315 posts since 5/9/2007

quote:
Originally posted by DC5
quote:
Originally posted by steve davis

I think candles should be illegal.


And do you have a reason for this?  They sure come in handy in a power failure.


Totally unnecessary fire hazard.Candles don't carry safely,are useless for reading or shooting pool,are silent killers as they burn down in the middle of the night having been forgotten to snuff out from too much to drink or simply forgotten.

The great advancements in LED lights and batteries can fill a room with bright light that have no dangers attached and are so much more user friendly.

I wonder how many unnecessary fires will be started by candles this holiday season.How many homes and lives lost?

Nov 28, 2021 - 9:22:52 AM
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DC5

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quote:
Originally posted by steve davis
quote:
Originally posted by DC5
quote:
Originally posted by steve davis

I think candles should be illegal.


And do you have a reason for this?  They sure come in handy in a power failure.


Totally unnecessary fire hazard.Candles don't carry safely,are useless for reading or shooting pool,are silent killers as they burn down in the middle of the night having been forgotten to snuff out from too much to drink or simply forgotten.

The great advancements in LED lights and batteries can fill a room with bright light that have no dangers attached and are so much more user friendly.

I wonder how many unnecessary fires will be started by candles this holiday season.How many homes and lives lost?


Hmmm, candles bad, pitch filled flammable tree good. 

You are correct that candles can be a fire hazard, but it is always user error.  I would wager that more fires are caused by Christmas trees and space heaters than by candles.  Why not make Christmas trees and space heaters illegal also?

Edit to add: I stand corrected, candles cause more fires than Christmas trees, but cooking, heaters, clothes dryers, cigarettes and overloaded power strips all outrank candles

https://firefightergarage.com/causes-of-house-fires/

Edited by - DC5 on 11/28/2021 09:26:37

Nov 28, 2021 - 9:26:31 AM
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Owen

Canada

10066 posts since 6/5/2011

.... and, let's not forget lawn darts.  wink

Nov 28, 2021 - 6:09:03 PM

Banjo Lefty

Canada

2450 posts since 6/19/2014

quote:
Originally posted by Owen

.... and, let's not forget lawn darts.  wink


You burn lawn darts?  Are they brighter than candles?

Edited by - Banjo Lefty on 11/28/2021 18:09:22

Nov 28, 2021 - 6:41:46 PM

Owen

Canada

10066 posts since 6/5/2011

We didn't, but some of our neighbours did.....after buying/selling them became illegal.   I was told that they burned okay, but, being good neighbours, they did forewarn us the plastic probably contained substances known by the state of California to cause cancer.   

Fortunately in our household we were "home free".... most of my family didn't even know where Californee was.... and we couldn't watch The Beverley Hillbillies  because we never had a TV until after I'd left home. wink   

And anyway, you know me..... none of that "no harm, no foul" nonsense.   

Edited by - Owen on 11/28/2021 18:51:01

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