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Nov 26, 2021 - 6:23:59 PM
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donc

Canada

6830 posts since 2/9/2010

https://youtu.be/Wtta28H4u4A....click here  for your free train trip from Toronto to Vancouver.. I don't work for Via Rail but I thought everyone needs a trip like this after a hard week. 

Nov 26, 2021 - 7:05:52 PM

Owen

Canada

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Thanks Don.  Periodically my wife and I think (?)  maybe we should take the train when we go to visit relatives, but so far we haven't pulled the trigger..... maybe we need to look at it without comparing it to plane travel [time and cost].   I did a little bit of work-related travel by train in northern MB, and we did Calgary to Winnipeg by train in the mid-70s.  No complaints.

Might never have to make the ^^ decision.... I don't know what restrictions purportedly re. that which we can't discuss are, or might be, but IF vaccine passports and/or masks are involved, train travel ain't gonna happen [unless it's an emergency and there is no other viable option].

Edited by - Owen on 11/26/2021 19:19:24

Nov 26, 2021 - 7:13:32 PM

bubbalouie

Canada

15693 posts since 9/27/2007

I rode Via Rail in southern Ontario . Back & forth between K-town & Toronto. Longest trip was from Shediac to home.

I had to change trains in Montreal. i thought "Cool! I'll go for a walk & check it out!" Nope! Agro phobia! I would be SO lost!  

We used to go between the cars for a smoke & you could smoke in the bar car! 

I'm glad I don't smoke anymore! 

Nov 26, 2021 - 8:08:24 PM

donc

Canada

6830 posts since 2/9/2010

The only Via trip we took in recent years was the one from here to San Francisco. The cost was high but when you factor in the saved price of a hotel and a few restaurants it takes off a few bucks. Train stations in North America usually land in the poorest parts of the city so I noticed that the 5 day trip had very few shots of any cities. When you realize how little you actually see from an airplane it's hard to compare the value of each trip. We were able to get off in Seattle at lunch time and catch the next trip to S.F. the following day. I would expect all and any protocols to do with the C word. Trains were a way of life here when my parents were young. Saskatoon to Vancouver was always a train ride unless you had a zillion dollars for an airplane.Today its the opposite.`

Nov 26, 2021 - 8:26:06 PM
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chuckv97

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I was on a train going west when they closed the bar car at 1 am in Manitoba,, then 15 minutes later we were Saskatchewan with a different time zone so they re-opened the booze can again.
I hopped freight trains between Edmonton & Port Mann, also Calgary & Port Coquitlam back when I was a “struggling artist”….. (read drunken bum)

Nov 27, 2021 - 12:38:17 AM
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Paul R

Canada

15404 posts since 1/28/2010

When I moved from Montreal to Toronto in '70 I'd travel back home periodically, always by train. First it was the "Rapido", then the Turbo Train, both initially VN before VIA was formed. I once shared a dining car table on the Rapido with a guy from Molson, who explained their sports marketing - not exactly rocket science. The Turbo had the dome cars, which were a neat feature. The trains back then had snack bar cars, where you could get up and stretch your legs and go get a nuked burger. Nowadays they have a cart, which means you're stuck in your seat. May as well take the bus.

Train trips with the Mrs. have been frustrating - like the one to Ottawa that took forever and people were smoking like chimneys, or the second cousin's wedding in Ottawa where they lost her luggage. They paid for new clothes for her, and when we went to the station to head back to T.O., her suitcase was there.

My late sister was on a train and a fight broke out!

The CN Turbo looks like Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer.


Edited by - Paul R on 11/27/2021 00:39:18

Nov 27, 2021 - 5:49:42 AM
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wizofos

USA

6220 posts since 8/19/2012

We are planning on taking the Amtrack Empire Builder from Wisconsin to Washington in 2 weeks. We have done this before and enjoyed it. Have done the coach experience and She has done the roomette, this trip we are doing the bedroom together. Meals come with the rooms which is nice and you have plenty of privacy as long as you can share with your mate. I am no longer a fan of flying. Like being stuck in a sardine can with a bunch of obnoxious strangers. I found blue tooth sound deadening head phones connected to a smart phone or tablet are life savers. Flying to Washington means going into Seattle then rent a car for 4 hour drive over the mountains, train lets us off within 5 miles of our final destination.
It is kinda hard to practice my banjo uke on a plane. She has head phones and I have Mike's mute so all is good.
36 hours of scenery, practice, reading, chatting and naps, what could be better than that?

Nov 27, 2021 - 6:21:55 AM

Owen

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Speaking of fights, on one of the fly-ins a colleague offered his opinion on the pulchritude/deportment/ ??? on staff.  Re. the secretary, he noted that, "If I'm ever in a back alley brawl, I want Christine on my side." 

Edit: Glen, where do you find the obnoxious people?  We don't fly a lot, but we haven't seen/heard/encounted them.  The closest I can recall was one lady who was a bit rude and unreasonable over what sounded like lost luggage.... but my initial impression was that she was probably a bit of a prima-donna.  I'm more struck with how compliant/disengaged the automatons generally are. Maybe I just gotta get out more?? wink

Edited by - Owen on 11/27/2021 06:39:09

Nov 27, 2021 - 7:45:56 AM
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Owen

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Chuck, I'm not up on current regulations, back a ways we could accomplish the same by shuffling about 4 blocks to the west right in Swanee River [circa late 60s early 70s].  Lounges stayed open an hour later than pubs.

I dunno about opening times, but one day another dude* at the boarding house decided to go to the pub for the 11 a.m. opening,  just to see what it felt like.  He reported that when he got there, there were already about a half-dozen guys waiting for it to open.

* = he worked in a MacLeod's store, so in the days of "Closed on Monday" ......

Nov 27, 2021 - 12:40:38 PM
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Brian T

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Bummer of a ride in bad WX, the cloud floor will be so low,
you might as well live in your bathroom for a week.

Really cold and clear? Absolutely spectacular from Edmonton to Vancouver. Live in the dome car.
If you peeled off at Jasper to come across to the coast at Prince Rupert, much of it is a green, tree-lined hallway in the forest. Huge open, expansive vistas of the Rockies
and the Coast ranges are few and very far between.

Nov 27, 2021 - 4:31:59 PM
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bubbalouie

Canada

15693 posts since 9/27/2007

When I was kid my family was heading to B.C. to visit family like we had done before. We were just passing Winnipeg.

A lady fell asleep at the wheel of her station wagon & came across the line. Dad kept to his side instead of risking a head on. We got sideswiped but stayed upright off the raised highway. Her husband was sleeping in the back & flew out as their car rolled multiple times. We had a utility trailer with all our camping gear & Dad said that's what kept it from flipping. I saw the guys feet sticking out from under the upside down car & the shocked expressions of the people driving by. 

My Mom had a cut on her forehead from hitting the rearview. No seatbelts! First responders were there & a random guy told my Dad he was taking me & my little brother up to a police car up on the road.

He saw the whole thing & had 2 boys the same age as my brother & I. He took us all to his house after they fixed up Mom & the Police were done with Dad. THAT was a good guy!

Long story short. We had to take the train home . I remember the dome cars & looking out at the prairie. Somebody gave my brother an alligator pull toy. The jaws would snap loudly. He pulled that up & down untill they had to take it away from him!

Nov 27, 2021 - 11:34:34 PM
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Paul R

Canada

15404 posts since 1/28/2010

quote:
Originally posted by wizofos

We are planning on taking the Amtrack Empire Builder from Wisconsin to Washington in 2 weeks. We have done this before and enjoyed it. Have done the coach experience and She has done the roomette, this trip we are doing the bedroom together. Meals come with the rooms which is nice and you have plenty of privacy as long as you can share with your mate. I am no longer a fan of flying. Like being stuck in a sardine can with a bunch of obnoxious strangers. I found blue tooth sound deadening head phones connected to a smart phone or tablet are life savers. Flying to Washington means going into Seattle then rent a car for 4 hour drive over the mountains, train lets us off within 5 miles of our final destination.
It is kinda hard to practice my banjo uke on a plane. She has head phones and I have Mike's mute so all is good.
36 hours of scenery, practice, reading, chatting and naps, what could be better than that?


Dad took us to NYC in '64-'65, Montreal to NYC and back, and my sister and I had roomettes. Neat! I woke up briefly as the train stopped in Albany, got up as we entered NYC. A few days of exploring NY (a lot on my own), taking in the old Metropolitan Opera, Guggenheim, Whitney, Doubleday Bookstore, Lindy's, Statue of Liberty, and New Year's Eve in Times Square. We stayed in a suite (on retainer with Dad's company) at the Dorset, W. 54th Street, two bedrooms, kitchenette, big living room with a huge window looking straight at the RCA Building, Rockefeller Centre. What a trip - roomettes on the way back, too.

Nov 28, 2021 - 7:38:54 AM
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wizofos

USA

6220 posts since 8/19/2012

quote:
Originally posted by Owen

Speaking of fights, on one of the fly-ins a colleague offered his opinion on the pulchritude/deportment/ ??? on staff.  Re. the secretary, he noted that, "If I'm ever in a back alley brawl, I want Christine on my side." 

Edit: Glen, where do you find the obnoxious people?  We don't fly a lot, but we haven't seen/heard/encounted them.  The closest I can recall was one lady who was a bit rude and unreasonable over what sounded like lost luggage.... but my initial impression was that she was probably a bit of a prima-donna.  I'm more struck with how compliant/disengaged the automatons generally are. Maybe I just gotta get out more??


Owen, I was in the USAF (Air Force) and rode in many different planes, mostly cargo planes. That being said I never saw anyone get obnoxious to a load master.  I have heard passengers complain because they did not get the seat they wanted or get on the ticket person because they were not in the first group to load. I fly with a small back pack carry on that will fit under the seat and see people carry on enough luggage for 6 months then complain that there is not enough room in the overhead .  I have seen people pull other passengers carry on's out to fit their oversize bags up there.  Perhaps I am complaining about small things but I don't like crowded places so I am probably more sensitive to some of these things than others.

Nov 28, 2021 - 8:03:08 AM
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My brother, who still lived in extreme northern New York State, used to enjoy periodically riding the train across Canada. Our deceased father was an engineer on the now defunct
New York Central rail system and that made family members have fond memories of railroad activities.

Various factors caused rail passenger service, especially in the U.S., to become scarce. My son-in-law once checked out traveling from Mobile AL to Dayton OH. Much more expensive than commercial air traffic and took 3 days. My nephew was a railroad executive for a company in the U.S.. When the government gave the company large land grants during railroad construction, there was a clause that the company had to provide passenger services to retain ownership of the land they were granted.

When I was a boy, my father who worked as railroad engineer told me railroads were no longer interested in passenger traffic.  At the time the railroads transported U.S. mail, and that was more lucrative than passenger service. Railroads eventually lost the mail service, and focused more on hauling freight.  They NYC eventually went out of business.

Generally speaking, unless something changes availability of rail traffic increasing is not likely to happen.  I keep hoping a foreign entity expresses their plans to provide economic efficient rail service in the U.S..  Then there will be a mad "stampede" by others to prevent this from happening.  I think there would be a market for rail passenger service from locations within roughly 500 - 600 miles from each other.  Just think - travel from downtown to downtown. 

Edited by - Richard Hauser on 11/28/2021 08:20:12

Nov 28, 2021 - 2:27:06 PM
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Cyndy

USA

644 posts since 3/2/2010

quote:
Originally posted by wizofos

We are planning on taking the Amtrack Empire Builder from Wisconsin to Washington in 2 weeks.


Should be an enjoyable trip! I'll be heading east on the California Zephyr and Lake Shore Limited about the same time and I just wish the trip was longer. I love riding trains and pretty much never fly.

Thanks to Amtrak credit card points, I'll have the luxury of a bedroom followed by a roomette, and hopefully it will be as relaxing as usual, despite the pandemic. I'll miss the dining car conversations this time around, but I'm sure looking forward to enjoying the cozy private space.

I usually get off with the smokers and have me a banjo or fiddle break to stretch my legs and get some fresh air. Makes for some fun times!

Did I mention how much I love train travel?! :)

Edited by - Cyndy on 11/28/2021 14:27:44

Nov 28, 2021 - 5:53:39 PM
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bubbalouie

Canada

15693 posts since 9/27/2007

I remember we went out to the tracks to the watch the Turbo Train go by.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_Canada

Edited by - bubbalouie on 11/28/2021 17:55:48

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