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Nov 13, 2021 - 4:18:58 PM
7216 posts since 2/14/2006

https://www.crowrivermedia.com/hutchinsonleader/news/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/letter-more-proof-earth-is-at-the-center-of-the-universe/article_4e7665c1-83ae-58a3-87ac-faff519d35ed.html
 

At this point in my life, I don't discount any viewpoint about this subject. Ever since I studied physics in college I wondered about this myself. Who's to say?  We might have had a wrong approach to space and the universe for a long time. Until someone comes up with proof that the Earth couldn't be at the center, I'm definitely open to it. 
 

By the way, since Eric's rules prohibit religious talk, keep that from finding its way into any replies. Keep it science and math based. Thanks. 

Nov 13, 2021 - 4:44:48 PM

Brian T

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18993 posts since 6/5/2008

I don't think we can figure it out. I used to hope so. We haven't seen anything swirling around us except the moon. The past is gone. Any amount of turbulence among galaxies would upscrew the singular point of origin. If the Big Bang was real and there seems hard evidence for that. We won't ever know where that was.

Nov 13, 2021 - 4:51:19 PM

7216 posts since 2/14/2006

quote:
Originally posted by Brian T

I don't think we can figure it out. I used to hope so. We haven't seen anything swirling around us except the moon. The past is gone. Any amount of turbulence among galaxies would upscrew the singular point of origin. If the Big Bang was real and there seems hard evidence for that. We won't ever know where that was.


We probably won't be able to figure it out in our lifetime.  I just don't know how nothing can become something (in the big bang) according to the laws of physics.  And if there has always been something existing in order to turn into the universe, where does that something come from and why?  Tough questions for a finite mind of mine!

Nov 13, 2021 - 5:05:26 PM
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In order to believe this nonsense would require believing that the earth is not subject to the same laws of physics as everything else.
There is absolute proof that the other planets in our solar system revolve around our sun. In order to believe the earth is the center would mean the sun is revolving around the earth and those planets around the sun... that somehow the earth is special and doesn't behave like the other planets...
These types of beliefs come from mythology and ego, not science.

Nov 13, 2021 - 5:12:09 PM

Brian T

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18993 posts since 6/5/2008

Albert figured it out: e = mc^2.

Atomic bombs work that way. I've been told that the loss of mass is almost undetectable. Somebody else guessed that a silver quarter ($0.25) was enough as energy to power human activity for centuries to come.

Is it written in the Koran? Some scripture claims that this is the third or fourth iteration/Big Bang, if you will. The time prior to this one is "St Augustine's Era." So there ends the story.

I like the images which postulate to show black holes eating stars
that wink out as a burst of X Rays at the event horizon.

Nov 13, 2021 - 5:30:12 PM
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chuckv97

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I smell a hidden agenda, sorry, Doug. Just because we don’t have proof of something then why instantly jump to (verboten word) beliefs?

Nov 13, 2021 - 5:34:37 PM

figmo59

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34658 posts since 3/5/2008

Is Humanity....the center of the Universe...?

Nov 13, 2021 - 5:43:27 PM
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kww

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quote:
Originally posted by Doug Knecht

https://www.crowrivermedia.com/hutchinsonleader/news/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/letter-more-proof-earth-is-at-the-center-of-the-universe/article_4e7665c1-83ae-58a3-87ac-faff519d35ed.html
 

At this point in my life, I don't discount any viewpoint about this subject. Ever since I studied physics in college I wondered about this myself. Who's to say?  We might have had a wrong approach to space and the universe for a long time. Until someone comes up with proof that the Earth couldn't be at the center, I'm definitely open to it. 
 

By the way, since Eric's rules prohibit religious talk, keep that from finding its way into any replies. Keep it science and math based. Thanks. 


I won't violate any of Eric's rules by laughing at loud at the idiot that wrote the letter and smirking at anyone that is sufficiently gullible as to think it has merit, will I?

Nov 13, 2021 - 5:44:29 PM
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Brian T

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18993 posts since 6/5/2008

I'm old enough now to admit that I really don't care. I need some ale and some tacos.

I have learned that surprise acts of kindness and generosity have really interesting karma.

Nov 13, 2021 - 5:46:39 PM
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Owen

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Nov 13, 2021 - 5:48:01 PM

chuckv97

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quote:
Originally posted by Owen

It's my understanding that Toronto is the center of the universe.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=centre%20of%20the%20universe

https://www.blogto.com/city/2020/01/someone-just-drew-map-what-toronto-looks-centre-universe/


DC/MD used to think he was....

Nov 13, 2021 - 6:06:42 PM
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Actually my “hidden agenda” is to get Mike Gregory’s take on this. His replies are priceless.

Nov 13, 2021 - 6:34:24 PM
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Well that explains a lot. Why the interest in our planet by other life forces. I mean who wouldn’t want to go to the center of the universe. I can see the t-shirts now. My family went to the center of the universe and All I Got was E=mc^2

Nov 13, 2021 - 7:41:50 PM

Tommy5

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3973 posts since 2/22/2009

There is no “center of the universe “, in fact there is pretty solid evidence that the universe we live in is actually only one of an nearly infinite number of other universes in our cosmos. According to Nobel prize winning physicist Penrose, the universe will expand until it reaches a singularly which just sets up another collapse, Big Bang and endless recycled universes. Remember that time doesn't actually exist, it doesn’t flow like a river, it’s just a yardstick we use to measure movement in spacetime, so the moment now, last forever, the energy that created our universe and condensed into matter is eternal, it wasn’t created in the Big Bang, it was always there. Our brains can’t wrap itself around ideas like forever and eternity but that is a limitation of our evolved brains , not a limitation of reality.

Nov 13, 2021 - 8:10:44 PM
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donc

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This is going to require more popcorn.

Nov 13, 2021 - 9:48:37 PM

917 posts since 10/4/2018

I believe planet Earth is the center of the world.

Nov 13, 2021 - 10:06:25 PM

917 posts since 10/4/2018

I believe the center of the universe is probably a kernel of corn or some other half digested morsel that was excreted with the rest of the universe.

Edited by - Good Buddy on 11/13/2021 22:08:03

Nov 13, 2021 - 10:14:30 PM

chuckv97

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One can mull over the concept of infinity in the macro sense,, or one can think micro, as in trying to divide a kernel of said corn continuously until there’s nothing left…. you'll never do it.

Edited by - chuckv97 on 11/13/2021 22:15:44

Nov 13, 2021 - 10:34:19 PM

Bart Veerman

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5095 posts since 1/5/2005

I'm guessing were are not the center. On the other hand, until we reach the point where we can actually travel from location to location in the known universe then, strictly for practical traveling reasons, from earth to anywhere else, it'd be safe enough to consider us Earthlings to be in the center for now.

Considering we can leave Earth in many, many, many different directions - how else would we get back home?

Nov 13, 2021 - 11:04:53 PM
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chuckv97

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Nov 14, 2021 - 12:29:04 AM

Bill Rogers (Moderator)

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No. Nor the center of the galaxy. Nor the center of the solar system. Probably the center of the earth-moon orbit system (which now includes lots of space junk).

Nov 14, 2021 - 5:15:59 AM
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J e f f

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3739 posts since 12/16/2009

I am the center of my universe, and the center of me is my belly button.

Nov 14, 2021 - 5:38:52 AM
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wizofos

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Does this really matter to most of us? I have bigger problems like keeping my banjo in tune, learning new chord patterns in my new banjo uke, catching up on some of the minor indoor home repairs in Her list. When all that is done then I am going to get worried about the center of the universe. Until then She is the center my universe.

Nov 14, 2021 - 5:43:47 AM
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DC5

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The letter has more holes in it than Albert Hall. Calling it nonsense would be elevating it.

Nov 14, 2021 - 7:39:31 AM

kww

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1476 posts since 6/21/2008

quote:
Originally posted by DC5

The letter has more holes in it than Albert Hall. Calling it nonsense would be elevating it.


"Not even wrong", as they say.

Nov 14, 2021 - 7:44:41 AM
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kww

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1476 posts since 6/21/2008

quote:
Originally posted by Bill Rogers

No. Nor the center of the galaxy. Nor the center of the solar system. Probably the center of the earth-moon orbit system (which now includes lots of space junk).


The center of the Earth-Moon system is, indeed, inside the Earth. It orbits the center of the earth at a distance of about 2500 miles, roughly 1000 miles below the surface. Unsurprisingly, if you draw a line through the center of the Earth and the center of mass, the points where that line intersect the surface will be the maximum and minimum lunar tide points.

Edited by - kww on 11/14/2021 07:44:59

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