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Oct 26, 2021 - 1:16:29 PM
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I just got back from seeing the new Bond film, "No Time to Die". I won't do any spoilers about the film, but I did enjoy it yet it left me with a bunch of questions at the end. Not sure where the franchise goes from here. Anyway, I got to thinking about the various James Bonds and what each brought to the role. I really like Daniel Craig's interpretation and the way they did a reboot with him at the helm. I liked Craig, and he just might be my favorite Bond because he added a lot of human to the character. Of course Sean Connery is still the iconic bond, but Craig had an earthiness that Connery lacked. Pretty much I've liked all the James Bonds, with the exception of George Lazenby and Timothy Dalton, though I admit I never got to see the very first Bond film, a TV version of Casino Royale staring Barry Nelson. Of course in that version Bond was an American agent. I even liked David Niven's portrayal in the totally spoofed version of Casino Royale, the first Bond film I got to see in a theater. My overly protective mother would not let me go to any of the Connery movies. I think that Roger Moore's portrayal was good, but the franchise went a little too cartoonish, kind of akin to the TV Batman series, though not that far. Still I liked Moore as Bond. I also thought that Pierce Brosnan did a decent job, especially when he first jumped (literally) into the character as it got a bit more back to the Connery earthiness, that is up until Die Another Day, which was too far fetched for me. It is no secret that this film was Daniel Craig's last film as Bond, so I'm wondering what the future holds. Personally, I would like to see them to a retro reboot, and place Bond pre, or post WWII. Kind of like an Indiana Jones retro thing. But I think they will keep moving into the future.

What are your thoughts? Who is your favorite Bond?

Oct 26, 2021 - 1:23:13 PM
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rinemb

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14108 posts since 5/24/2005

I lost most of my interest after Connery. Might have seen Moore on the big screen once. That said, I watched many of them on home movie channels after that. Not sure I would bother in the future, unless they took place in the past.
Brad

Oct 26, 2021 - 1:27:01 PM

dat

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31556 posts since 7/26/2006

I guess growing up it was Sean Connery that i remember as Bond, then Roger More, but he was more predictable and less believable, not that any were believed yo be true, but i would go with Connery as who I think of when i hear James Bond

Oct 26, 2021 - 1:30:18 PM

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Connery all the way.

Oct 26, 2021 - 1:34 PM

banjo bill-e

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The next 007 will be female. Not sure if she will be a "Bond" or not.

Oct 26, 2021 - 1:38:01 PM

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Bond

Oct 26, 2021 - 1:42:36 PM

dat

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quote:
Originally posted by banjo bill-e

The next 007 will be female. Not sure if she will be a "Bond" or not.


Jamie? Jasmine?  Have known some women with a middle name of James, but she's gotta be Bond if she's 007

Oct 26, 2021 - 1:49:19 PM
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banjo bill-e

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As to Bond films, there is From Russia with Love, and everything else! FRWL is a believable story with minimal gimmicks. Everything else is close to a cartoon, and the Moore era films went beyond "close". Now, I just loved those "cartoon" films when young but few hold up well to viewing these days, imo.
Though I must admit that Ursula Andress coming out of the ocean in Dr. No never gets old!

Oct 26, 2021 - 1:58:36 PM

dat

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Just thought of it, she can be an Irish 007 by the name of Jameson Bond

Oct 26, 2021 - 3:33:10 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by banjo bill-e

The next 007 will be female. Not sure if she will be a "Bond" or not.


This might be part spoiler, but the female 007 is in this film.

Oct 26, 2021 - 3:57:43 PM

58462 posts since 12/14/2005

Connery was my fave.

Since I have done both theater performances and stage magic, I am interested in the tricks used in making things look real.

And I couldn't help but notice that when the Bad Guys sent a tarantula to kill him, there was a stunt double for the shots that didn't show Connery's face, and a barely noticeable FLATTENING of Connery's arm muscle, where the tarantula is crawling across a very clean plate of GLASS, so as not to touch the star's real skin.
(at about 1:16 or so)
PS: Tarantula bites are very rarely fatal.

Edited by - mike gregory on 10/26/2021 15:59:41

Oct 26, 2021 - 4:19:21 PM

banjo bill-e

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Fatal or not I would never sleep again!

Oct 27, 2021 - 5:24:07 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by banjo bill-e

Fatal or not I would never sleep again!


Tarantulas are sold in pet stores as pets.   Unless you are highly allergic to bee stings, you will not be fatally bitten by a tarantula.  I used to have a great fear of spiders, but now I find them fascinating.  I held a tarantula at a party once, and for their size they are amazingly light. 

Oct 27, 2021 - 5:25:51 AM
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On a side note, David Clark communication headphones were used in the film. That always makes me smile, even though my family is no longer officially associated with the David Clark Company.

Oct 27, 2021 - 10:08:56 PM
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Paul R

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Q,; What did Sean Connery say after all his books fell on him?
A.: "I only have my shelf to blame!"

Oct 28, 2021 - 5:58:51 AM
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One note of interest. The earlier Connery movies were all based on Flemings books and stayed fairly true to the novels. Goldfinger, was a great example, as was Dr. No and From Russia with Love. The Aston Martin in Gold Finger was as described in the novel. When Moore took over the role Hollywood took a lot of leeway with Flemings character and went far more for the gadgets and special effects. Craig's reboot of Bond counted a whole lot less on gizmos. In this last movie there was only the Aston Martin and a magnetic wristwatch, that according to Q, may or may not work as advertised.

Oct 28, 2021 - 6:19:55 AM
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rinemb

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When I was a boy scout camp counselor at a wilderness camp we had great fun with tarantulas, we captured as short term pets. It was rare we could convince a camper that they were harmless, and get them to hold one. I didn't mind them when I knew they were there. To suddenly discover one crawling on your shoulder, those or big wolf spiders, was quite alarming.
I have a living arrangement with all of the poisonous brown spiders that occupy our basement. You are tolerated to live down there, but if I see you, I squish you.
Brad

Oct 28, 2021 - 6:21:20 AM
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rinemb

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I lose interest in most serial movies and shows and books early on. Not sure why! Usually, after the first several. Brad

Oct 28, 2021 - 6:30:57 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by rinemb

When I was a boy scout camp counselor at a wilderness camp we had great fun with tarantulas, we captured as short term pets. It was rare we could convince a camper that they were harmless, and get them to hold one. I didn't mind them when I knew they were there. To suddenly discover one crawling on your shoulder, those or big wolf spiders, was quite alarming.
I have a living arrangement with all of the poisonous brown spiders that occupy our basement. You are tolerated to live down there, but if I see you, I squish you.
Brad


Yes, spiders and snakes are both startling when you don't expect them.  I don't fear either, but any critter found crawling on me unexpected is quickly dispatched, even if it's something I like, like a Praying Mantis.  We really don't have dangerous spiders around here, and the 2 poisonous snakes are so rare that you will virtually never see one unless you do rock climbing along the CT River.  I never feared snakes, but they will make me jump when they suddenly move - especially the very large Black Racer.  I figure that if spiders take up residence in my basement it is because they have found a food source down there that I would rather not have in my house, so the spiders get a pass. 

I think the fear of snakes and spiders is genetically inherited.  I used to think that all fears were learned, but my parrot, which was hand hatched and hand raised, has a tremendous fear of anything that might look like a snake.  Rope, hoses, extension cords all trigger his flight response.  Since he must have been born with that fear, I figure we must have been too. 

Oct 28, 2021 - 6:33:06 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by rinemb

I lose interest in most serial movies and shows and books early on. Not sure why! Usually, after the first several. Brad


I think that's because the first had a lot of money invested in it, and was good.  The follow ups are lower budget to rake in money.  One very good exception is the Lord of the Rings trilogy, but they were all filmed at the same time and just released in different years. 

Oct 28, 2021 - 12:08:04 PM

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I don't mind spiders much at all.
I figure anything that wants to snack on a skeeter before the skeeter has a chance to snack on ME, is a Good Bug!!

As to Bond movies:
I recall somebody wrote a rather long opinion piece, comparing James Bond and Rambo, and pointing out the CULTURAL differences between Bond, a Brit, and Rambo, an American.

In the first movie in the series, Bond kills because it is his Duty to his nation, without any actual anger.
He is not given a choice, other than to refuse the mission.

In the first movie in the series, Rambo kills out of a sense of vengeance for having been mistreated.
(He COULD have chosen to simply leave town.)

(In the BOOK, the man who TRAINED Rambo is brought in to KILL Rambo, but if they did that in the MOVIE, no $$ SEQUELS ! $$!)

Oct 28, 2021 - 12:24:57 PM

Paul R

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15143 posts since 1/28/2010

quote:
Originally posted by rinemb

When I was a boy scout camp counselor at a wilderness camp we had great fun with tarantulas, we captured as short term pets. It was rare we could convince a camper that they were harmless, and get them to hold one. I didn't mind them when I knew they were there. To suddenly discover one crawling on your shoulder, those or big wolf spiders, was quite alarming.
I have a living arrangement with all of the poisonous brown spiders that occupy our basement. You are tolerated to live down there, but if I see you, I squish you.
Brad


I don't know what this one is, but I wasn't about to go to bed with it in the room. The vacuum came in handy.


 

Oct 29, 2021 - 5:51:26 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by mike gregory

I don't mind spiders much at all.
I figure anything that wants to snack on a skeeter before the skeeter has a chance to snack on ME, is a Good Bug!!

As to Bond movies:
I recall somebody wrote a rather long opinion piece, comparing James Bond and Rambo, and pointing out the CULTURAL differences between Bond, a Brit, and Rambo, an American.

In the first movie in the series, Bond kills because it is his Duty to his nation, without any actual anger.
He is not given a choice, other than to refuse the mission.

In the first movie in the series, Rambo kills out of a sense of vengeance for having been mistreated.
(He COULD have chosen to simply leave town.)

(In the BOOK, the man who TRAINED Rambo is brought in to KILL Rambo, but if they did that in the MOVIE, no $$ SEQUELS ! $$!)


Which makes me wonder about the future of James Bond.  Right now there isn't one.

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