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Oct 17, 2021 - 8:21:07 AM
2864 posts since 2/10/2013

Anybody seen an in-depth report on the recent change in incoming student athlete elibility. ? I don't want a report put forward by the NCAA. NCAA activities in the past give me the impression it is more interested in people running major collegiate sports than it is student athlete academic development.

Oct 17, 2021 - 11:32:06 AM

Texasbanjo (Moderator)

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26533 posts since 8/3/2003

Google it. There's half a dozen or more URLs about the changes.

Oct 18, 2021 - 5:28:36 AM
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why are the leaders of the black community not very upset about this ?
is this a nice way to say that black students are not smart enough to pass standard test? bovine defecate !!!!
where did this pressure come from to come up with this ? the black community ?
thats hard to believe.

Oct 18, 2021 - 6:38:13 AM
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Originally posted by 1935tb-11

why are the leaders of the black community not very upset about this ?
is this a nice way to say that black students are not smart enough to pass standard test? bovine defecate !!!!
where did this pressure come from to come up with this ? the black community ?
thats hard to believe.


Totally correct Terry .... it is demeaning and patronizing to the community that it is supposed to be helping.  However, you have to keep in mind that the NCAA almost never makes the correct decision and this is just another in the long line of them.  The fairly recent University of North Carolina basketball scandal proves that the NCAA does not care much about academics or the student athlete.  The NCAA is alike all big institutions in that it exists just for itself and its leaders.  The good news is that the Power 5 conferences have had just about enough of it and will one day say goodbye to them!

Oct 18, 2021 - 10:55:42 AM
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I noticed the action was directed at the high income sports. Academically, the NCAA "sucks".
How in the "you know where" is this action going to motivate potential college athletes or their supporters to work harder academically ? In my mind, the answer to the problem would be additional support for students wanting to improve their educational knowledge. And available to any student, not just potential colllege athletes for football or basketball.
I hope I am wrong, but this action is going to tarnish the image of of some student athletes. How will these "exempted" student function in the classroom ? When I attended several semesters of Spanish at a college, every student except 3 or us were already bilingual and could speak spanish. I worked very hard and got a "B". The instructor said we were graded on a curve, and in a normal college classroom, I would have received an A+. Will these students be exempted from grading after they enter college ?


"Lowering the bar" does not make performance better. You just think it is better. IMHO schools would provide facilities for students wanting to improve the academic knowledge.

Unless I am wrong, the criteria only considered the Spanish language as valid academic criteria. That sounds racist to me. Why would Spanish be considered a valid academic study any more than Latin or another foreign language ?

A few years back some college coaches who did not have many highly recruited athletes designed "hurry up" offenses which made defenses more difficult. Influential coaches tried to have these offenses made illegal. Their excuse was player safety. It was probably because it made their work more difficult.

Finally, I wonder if some colleges will participate in this program. The people supporting the legislation probably don't really care. But a college that prides itself on its academic reputation may not allow student athletes to participate until they successfully complete
pre-requisite level courses. College should exist to educate people, not support athletic programs.

Edited by - Richard Hauser on 10/18/2021 10:56:56

Oct 18, 2021 - 3:15:54 PM
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Originally posted by Richard Hauser

I noticed the action was directed at the high income sports. Academically, the NCAA "sucks".
How in the "you know where" is this action going to motivate potential college athletes or their supporters to work harder academically ? In my mind, the answer to the problem would be additional support for students wanting to improve their educational knowledge. And available to any student, not just potential colllege athletes for football or basketball.
I hope I am wrong, but this action is going to tarnish the image of of some student athletes. How will these "exempted" student function in the classroom ? When I attended several semesters of Spanish at a college, every student except 3 or us were already bilingual and could speak spanish. I worked very hard and got a "B". The instructor said we were graded on a curve, and in a normal college classroom, I would have received an A+. Will these students be exempted from grading after they enter college ?


"Lowering the bar" does not make performance better. You just think it is better. IMHO schools would provide facilities for students wanting to improve the academic knowledge.

Unless I am wrong, the criteria only considered the Spanish language as valid academic criteria. That sounds racist to me. Why would Spanish be considered a valid academic study any more than Latin or another foreign language ?

A few years back some college coaches (yep, Nick Saban the most vocal) who did not have many highly recruited athletes designed "hurry up" offenses which made defenses more difficult. Influential coaches tried to have these offenses made illegal. Their excuse was player safety. It was probably because it made their work more difficult.

Finally, I wonder if some colleges will participate in this program. The people supporting the legislation probably don't really care. But a college that prides itself on its academic reputation may not allow student athletes to participate until they successfully complete
pre-requisite level courses. College should exist to educate people, not support athletic programs.


Excellent post Dick .... and correct on all points.  Our coach at Clemson, Dabo Swinney, is most proud of the fact that his team for the last number of years has been in the top five in academic performance.  I doubt that he or the administration would want to change their standards as they seem to be working very well as is.  It dawned on me, if the NCAA is looking for "equity", they should start start lowering athletic ability standards so that more white players would be on the football and basketball teams!wink

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