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Oct 15, 2021 - 9:34:30 PM
4 posts since 10/15/2021

A good friend, mentor and teacher to me, that I met at this very (virtual) place maybe 15 years ago, and whom I have not directly communicated with in several years, reached out to me last night. It was a bit surreal...

I'm really torn. I have not been an active participant on this site for several years. I spent far too many hours here, when I should have been doing other things. Lots of positive memories, and learned a heck of a lot, but I needed to walk away, and focus on other things, such as my family, work and related responsibilities. No bad feelings, but I needed to re-focus on more important priorities.

Not sure if I deleted my original account, but I just created this one many years and much scar tissue later.

Enough about me! A banjo friend reached out to me last night. The most unexpected communication, but very welcome after many years of drifting apart into other circles and priorities.

My friend is likely known to many of you BH old timers, and probably some younger students of the world of banjo.

My friend is not in a good way medically. He likely needs at least $100k to get life-saving treatment. He already got a bill for $30k just to tell him what's wrong and no treatment.

My friend was self-employed last few years and paid $800/month for health insurance. But insurance company has so far denied his claims or any treatment.

I'm not making this up. It's not a scam. Nobody is lying here, but my friend is in a "dire" medical situation, and dire financial situation. Unbelievable that an educated, hard-working citizen, and good human being and father can fall between the cracks in the American health care $system.

I'm really torn about naming names because he was not wild on the idea of gofundme or asking for help. We chatted about that last night. But my friend might not make it to next year if he doesn't get treatment.

I want to help, but I ain't got any money and hanging by a thread financially myself in Canada.

My friend is an accomplished picker in both 3F and CH styles. He has many videos and tab books, and he taught me a lot. He taught me how to be a gracious, respectful person by his example, even if that was not my nature way back. We used to get together virtually at his virtual ranch to hang out, chat, listen, learn and pick a little bit. There were anywhere from expert to newbs, and we all listened respectfully and had fun. The banjo brought us together, and we celebrated progress of some very novice players, and were regularly wowed by some of the better players. It was a small side-community of misfits and weirdos, but we kept it clean, and positive, and we had some fun! We made friends, even though few of us ever met in person.

Now our friend is in trouble medically and financially. I want to help. There's other ways to help, but if he can't pay for medical help, prognosis is not good.

I've dropped a few hints that some BH oldtimers might get, without naming names. Would yall support a gofundme to help our friend?

Oct 15, 2021 - 9:38:42 PM
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2762 posts since 3/30/2008

A good way to raise big money is to be as vague  & anonymous as possible .  

Edited by - tdennis on 10/15/2021 21:40:44

Oct 15, 2021 - 9:50:31 PM
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4 posts since 10/15/2021

Thank you and duly noted tdennis. I'm a bit messed up right now, and my friend may die, because he's "middle-class" poor in America. I don't want to embarrass him. I was vague out of respect for my friend and his privacy and dignity.

Oct 15, 2021 - 10:02:59 PM
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I uploaded a profile photo. Perhaps I am a bit less anonymous now. Unknown and ok that way, but that's me.

Oct 16, 2021 - 4:37:23 AM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

26533 posts since 8/3/2003

You don't say who you are, where you live, or what your alleged friend's problem is. Sounds like a scam to me.

Members: check this out closely before you lose your money!!!

We're watching this thread closely and it may be locked/hidden at any time.

Oct 16, 2021 - 4:43:22 AM

jacot23

USA

247 posts since 12/13/2012

You sound a whole lot like a great friend of mine that was on here several years ago and left, but that person is not in Canada. Regardless, I will pray for your friend who could actually be a couple of different people that I know that have had serious health issues over the last 18mos. I'm sure if someone started a gofundme for either of those the banjo community would contribute.

Edited by - jacot23 on 10/16/2021 04:45:48

Oct 16, 2021 - 5:01:02 AM
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4439 posts since 12/6/2009

Go Fund Me....not Banjo Hangout

Oct 16, 2021 - 5:23:57 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by overhere

Go Fund Me....not Banjo Hangout


Reminds me of a thread, years ago, where somebody asked that he be given a decent quality banjo.

And someone replied

"This is the Banjo Hangout, not the Banjo  HANDOUT!"

While I am not in a position to donate, at this time, I will offer a prayer which is carefully tailored to not offend anyone of any, or no, religion:

 

"May whichever Gods and/or Goddesses you choose to honor or ignore, use whatever Powers they may or may not have, to provide your friend with the best possible outcome."

Oct 16, 2021 - 6:32:41 AM
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Helix

USA

14796 posts since 8/30/2006

Texasbanjo We know you are a moderator and your volunteer job is to watch out for things.

We also know moderators are at times flooded with misbehavior.

I wish you wouldn't be so hasty right now.

I've seen several obituaries this month, which means real survivors are mourning from here on the hangout.

A "Go Fund Me" would be my encouragement.

Take a look for your old account and disclose yourself. There are others here who would and could respond.
You will be the front man, so some report to the social beings here will help.

Let's see what happens. This Falcon implies an acceptable outcome.


 

Oct 16, 2021 - 6:49:35 AM
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DC5

USA

21235 posts since 6/30/2015
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I have donated in the past to Go Fund me accounts for members here that were in trouble, and I'll likely donate again, but not blindly. I also donated a banjo to a member who supposedly lost one in a house fire and I never received so much as a thank you. Without specific details I don't see how anyone can expect to get donations beyond prayers. Since I have no one to pray to I cannot offer that.

Oct 16, 2021 - 7:24:48 AM

1696 posts since 2/21/2011

Scam.  Next?

Oct 16, 2021 - 7:24:49 AM

251 posts since 8/25/2009

There's an old saying about us New Yorkers: "If you're a New Yorker and you're not at least a little bit paranoid, you"re crazy" So here's my slightly paranoid thoughts.

Since he's been paying for insurance ($800 per month), I have two (mildly paranoid) thoughts.

1) Why isn't he getting his state government involved. My state has both a state Consumer Protection Agency and an Attorney General who is active in consumer protection. There is also a state insurance licensing agency, I don't want to get political, but if there is no state agency overseeing this, maybe he should move.

2) What on earth is the insurance company's justification for not paying? Is the suggested treatment unapproved -perhaps even a scam? $30,000 for a mere diagnosis sounds kind of high to me. Perhaps, the people who are "treating him" are really more interested in "treating his wallet".

Oct 16, 2021 - 7:38:11 AM
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1606 posts since 5/19/2018

Native New Yorker here, so....

I have given to Gofunds me before. What you are asking with the knowledge you are giving, well, it sounds very fishy.

Without knowing names, and specifics, I have to call scam on this one.

You are basically saying “ Somebody somewhere is sick with something and needs 100K . ASAP. You might know me, send me money and I’ll get it to him. “

You put a few names and places out there, you will get at least some level of positive response.

Oct 16, 2021 - 8:04:25 AM
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An unknown person, with no previous posts, with no personal information on his profile, who posts a picture of someone that may or may not be him as identification, asking for money for an unknown person he wont identify. Anyone who doesn't see this is a scam is a fool.

Oct 16, 2021 - 8:32:57 AM
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Helix

USA

14796 posts since 8/30/2006

latigo1 Is this your opinion or fact? We are not fools, cautious and wily, perhaps.

Oct 16, 2021 - 8:44:13 AM
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Texasbanjo wrote: "You don't say who you are, where you live, or what your alleged friend's problem is. Sounds like a scam to me."

When the OP refuses to divulge either his own identity, or the identity of the supposed beneficiary of donations, that's really suspicious. The profile picture doesn't show me anything. Perhpas we are all being overly cynical. if so, I would suggest that the OP talk to the ill friend, and get his permission to use his name. And set up a GoFundMe page that reveals the benefactor's identity also.

Oct 16, 2021 - 8:45:17 AM
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janolov

Sweden

41258 posts since 3/7/2006

If it is not a scam, I think GoFundMe would be a approprate channel rather than Banjo Hangout. There you have to identify yourself and the receiver of the fund and all identies should be known to the person who donate money.

Oct 16, 2021 - 8:45:50 AM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

26533 posts since 8/3/2003

quote:
Originally posted by Helix

Texasbanjo We know you are a moderator and your volunteer job is to watch out for things.

We also know moderators are at times flooded with misbehavior.

I wish you wouldn't be so hasty right now.

I've seen several obituaries this month, which means real survivors are mourning from here on the hangout.

A "Go Fund Me" would be my encouragement.

Take a look for your old account and disclose yourself. There are others here who would and could respond.
You will be the front man, so some report to the social beings here will help.

Let's see what happens. This Falcon implies an acceptable outcome.


I haven't been hasty at all.  I've just been careful to warn members that this may be a scam.  Would you rather I just sit back and let people get taken by some spammer (not saying that's what's happening here).  Brand new members, no information on him at all, no information about this alleged friend who is in trouble and you think I'm being hasty?  I think you may be too trusting.   

I have not locked the topic.  We mods are just watching to ascertain whether it's legit or not.

Oct 16, 2021 - 9:10:06 PM

562 posts since 2/5/2014

Even if this is not a scam, I truly doubt a GoFundMe will provide anywhere near enough money to pay all the medical expenses.

Oct 17, 2021 - 12:01:15 AM
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Helix

USA

14796 posts since 8/30/2006

"Take a look for your old account and disclose yourself. There are others here who would and could respond.
You will be the front man, so some report to the social beings here will help."

I was suggesting to the OP. I respect your opinion, I think you stated it like a pro should here on the hangout.

Oct 18, 2021 - 8:35:36 PM

4 posts since 10/15/2021

This is not a scam. I was merely testing the water, and trying to see if anyone else might have already initiated a fundraiser. I'm out of the loop lately.

How could it be a scam, when I didn't ask for money in my original post? I was just tryn to find out if anyone was already for same cause.

I'm struggling to set up a gofundme account here tonite, and eventually I will figure it out.

The individual that needs help was known to many here years ago. I will do best to clarify when I get things organized. It sure as heck ain't about me, or a scam.

Sorry for being vague thus far

Oct 18, 2021 - 10:08:01 PM

1600 posts since 1/28/2013

quote:
Originally posted by janolov

If it is not a scam, I think GoFundMe would be a approprate channel rather than Banjo Hangout. There you have to identify yourself and the receiver of the fund and all identies should be known to the person who donate money.


For a Medical Procedure that serious, and that expensive, why would'nt an Insurance Company pay? Procedures that are super expensive and not covered by Insurance are almost always Cosmetic.

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