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Aug 31, 2021 - 10:46:34 PM
10 posts since 11/11/2019

Hey guys, how do I do the d lick in rueben? I have seen people pull off on the 4th string and other people slide from 3-4 or 4-5 on the 4th string I can’t remember the fret position of the slide properly. Can anyone post a tab or any advice to do it?

Sep 1, 2021 - 2:51:59 AM
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janolov

Sweden

41207 posts since 3/7/2006

What do you mean with D lick in Reuben? Reuben is played in D tuning and there is a lot of licks in D in the tune. I am most fascinated by the harmonic "licks" but I guess that is not what you are searching.

Sep 1, 2021 - 3:07:24 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by jackvalentine

Hey guys, how do I do the d lick in rueben? I have seen people pull off on the 4th string and other people slide from 3-4 or 4-5 on the 4th string I can’t remember the fret position of the slide properly. Can anyone post a tab or any advice to do it?


Here is an entire lesson bt Bil Nesbitt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOgMVcG0qOQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3ABda884Ig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INmF13Cr9QU

Sep 1, 2021 - 6:55:26 AM
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I'm guessing that jackvalentine means the tag lick, which is fingered almost exactly the same (right and left) as the G-tuning tag lick. (I note that some refer to the tag lick in G, somewhat misleadingly, as the "G lick".)

Is that what you mean, jackvalentine? If so, the pulloff will work. So will a solid 2nd-fret note, with no pulloff or slide. So will a slide from 2 to 3, or from 2 to 4, or from 3 to 4. They all get the job done, but in slightly different ways. Try them all and hear what they sound like. (A slide from 4 to 5 won't sound right, but don't take my word for it! Try it anyway just to see what it sounds like, too.)

Sep 1, 2021 - 7:49:24 AM
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7103 posts since 8/30/2004

Jack,
I notice you ask for a lot of licks from a lot of Earl's songs. Why don't you just buy the book? The simple Reuben lick you are asking for has been posted on BHO dozens of times exactly as Earl does it. I've posted it several times....Bill Nesbit does Earl's songs his way, not as Earl plays them. I'm a little confused why you haven't caught on yet. Do yourself a favor and buy Earl's book/s...Jack Baker

Originally posted by jackvalentine

Hey guys, how do I do the d lick in rueben? I have seen people pull off on the 4th string and other people slide from 3-4 or 4-5 on the 4th string I can’t remember the fret position of the slide properly. Can anyone post a tab or any advice to do it?


Edited by - Jack Baker on 09/01/2021 07:54:00

Sep 1, 2021 - 9:21:52 AM

193 posts since 5/21/2020

quote:
Originally posted by Jack Baker
Jack,
I notice you ask for a lot of licks from a lot of Earl's songs. Why don't you just buy the book? The simple Reuben lick you are asking for has been posted on BHO dozens of times exactly as Earl does it. I've posted it several times....Bill Nesbit does Earl's songs his way, not as Earl plays them. I'm a little confused why you haven't caught on yet. Do yourself a favor and buy Earl's book/s...Jack Baker

Originally posted by jackvalentine

Hey guys, how do I do the d lick in rueben? I have seen people pull off on the 4th string and other people slide from 3-4 or 4-5 on the 4th string I can’t remember the fret position of the slide properly. Can anyone post a tab or any advice to do it?


 


Hi jack He is not asking for the earth, he is just reaching out to the community seeking help and friendship. Here in the UK there's not a lot of people you can turn to for help. I suggested Bill Nesbitt is a gesture of goodwill. If I am out of order for doing so then post the B****y TAB and give the guy a break. Little wonder folks no longer come here seeking help when all the ever get is a slap down for asking. Jesus give me strength. 

Sep 1, 2021 - 9:39:19 AM

193 posts since 5/21/2020

Just for the record EARL did not write the TAB in his book. Also the TAB is in many cases confusing for a beginner to follow.

Sep 1, 2021 - 10:14:09 AM
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7103 posts since 8/30/2004

Fred,
Don't get so excited. I know exactly when and how the book was written and Earl's part in the book. BHO used to be quality and I want it to stay that way. Bill Nesbitt's tabs look great but they should not be advertised as Earl's--just approximately Earl's. He's pushing his site and I understand that part only too well. He has a friend (you) and that's always great for people trying to make a living...

Edited by - Jack Baker on 09/01/2021 10:29:33

Sep 1, 2021 - 11:08:07 AM
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193 posts since 5/21/2020

quote:
Originally posted by Jack Baker

Fred,
Don't get so excited. I know exactly when and how the book was written and Earl's part in the book. BHO used to be quality and I want it to stay that way. Nesbitt's tabs look great but they should not be advertised as Earl's. He's pushing his site and I understand that part only too well...J


Jack I am not getting excited. When folks ask for TAB you always complain. If you don't want to share your TABS that's fine, there are others who do. I get it that's how you earn your living and I respect that.  The OP put out a general request for help he didn't say hey Jack gimme your TAB.  

You say you want to keep the BHO a quality site and that Bill Nesbitt's TABs are not accurate. Who gets to say your TABs are any more accurate than Bill's.  

But since you are such and expert on everything EARL played you'll probably have heard some folk say that EARL didn't play a tune exactly note for note  the same each time. I  am not an expert on Scruggs and would never claim to be so, but I have probably been listening to EARL as long as you.  To my ear there is absolutely nothing wrong with Bill Nesbitt's arrangement.  I don't know if Bill's arrangement includes the lick the OP is requesting but in the absence of the lick he might just be able to figure it out himself is that not what we call improvisation. 

You might not like what Bill is doing because he is a rival to your business but others do and folks appreciate that. Bill is doing exactly the same as you are promoting your own business the only difference is he has produced a video and you have not. As far as I can see Bill isn't pushing his website here ( I was the one who put up the links) but  when all said and done YOU ARE promoting your website through publishing TABs. Folks come here seeking help and guidance not to listen to a grumpy old man. 

So here is my advice to you. If you want the BHO to be a quality site again (assuming it was at one time in the dim and distant past) then maybe you should learn to treat folks here with a little compassion and respect.   Failing that just say nothing!  Respectfully FenderFred

Sep 1, 2021 - 11:22:57 AM
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7103 posts since 8/30/2004

Here we go yet again. I said nothing about Bill's tabs being inaccurate, just not note for note Earl. My tabs are as Earl plays them, not approximate, depending which recording is being tabbed out.

I have never claimed to be an expert on Earl or anyone else. Your post is just another angry post and I think this site has had enough of what almost amounts to trolling...To ask what I have contributed to this site and that I'm competing with Bill Nesbitt is farcical and so I get what you are trying to do. You totally live in your own world it seems.

So I'll end this and ask you to read Earl's book so you know what you're talking about...

Edited by - Jack Baker on 09/01/2021 11:32:19

Sep 1, 2021 - 11:47:41 AM
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Fender Fred,
I don't know how long you have been here as you don't offer much information about yourself on your page, but Jack has been giving away tons of tab to the hangout because he wants them to have a home. I have never heard Jack self promote here and he seems like he is more edging his way out of the business rather than being competitive for new business. Jack has contributed to the quality of this site.
Thanks,
ken

Sep 1, 2021 - 11:50:23 AM

193 posts since 5/21/2020

You are in denial Jack, you gotta seek some professional help.

Here I quote you

" BHO used to be quality and I want it to stay that way. Bill Nesbitt's tabs look great but they should not be advertised as Earl's"

You push yours as Scruggs TABS. ". My tabs are as Earl plays them," Now that is quite a boastful claim.

You can twist things around to suit yourself, like calling ME out as a TROLL.

Can't you see that is why you are such a bully here. You think this site is here to serve your needs only. I can live without this forum you can't because without this forum your nothing.

My reason for coming to this forum is to offer some help and guidance to those in need of help.

Sep 1, 2021 - 11:54:07 AM
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7103 posts since 8/30/2004

Hi Ken,

I fear that we have yet another troller in training here. I won't respond to his nonsense. Thanks for the post Ken...Jack  p.s. Yes, I  am retired from teaching in NYC, just a few online ZOOM students from NYU is all. 30 years at NYU plumb wore me out HA... BHO has been my home for a very long time and I'll always help when I can. I live with my Wife and Greyhound and Whippet in NJ and all is well...Muchas Ken...J

Edited by - Jack Baker on 09/01/2021 12:04:12

Sep 1, 2021 - 12:04:10 PM

193 posts since 5/21/2020

quote:
Originally posted by From Greylock to Bean Blossom

Fender Fred,
I don't know how long you have been here as you don't offer much information about yourself on your page, but Jack has been giving away tons of tab to the hangout because he wants them to have a home. I have never heard Jack self promote here and he seems like he is more edging his way out of the business rather than being competitive for new business. Jack has contributed to the quality of this site.
Thanks,
ken


Ken, Lets just say I have been here a long while. I know the great contribution Jack has made to this forum over the years and I truly respect him for this and the generous TABs he has given freely. But Jack does step on folks toes from time to time. It just so happens he stepped on mine today, so please don't involve yourself here.  Today this is between Jack and Me. I have said what I had to say and he is quite capable of defending his own corner.  As far as I am concerned this matter has closed. Unless Jack feels the need to take another swing. 

Sep 1, 2021 - 12:08:43 PM

6264 posts since 10/13/2007

quote:
Originally posted by FenderFred
quote:
Originally posted by From Greylock to Bean Blossom

Fender Fred,
I don't know how long you have been here as you don't offer much information about yourself on your page, but Jack has been giving away tons of tab to the hangout because he wants them to have a home. I have never heard Jack self promote here and he seems like he is more edging his way out of the business rather than being competitive for new business. Jack has contributed to the quality of this site.
Thanks,
ken


Ken, Lets just say I have been here a long while. I know the great contribution Jack has made to this forum over the years and I truly respect him for this and the generous TABs he has given freely. But Jack does step on folks toes from time to time. It just so happens he stepped on mine today, so please don't involve yourself here.  Today this is between Jack and Me. I have said what I had to say and he is quite capable of defending his own corner.  As far as I am concerned this matter has closed. Unless Jack feels the need to take another swing. 


Fine, we have all had our say. Jack has been good and helpful to me for a long time.

Why don't you tell more about yourself on your page? It lets people understand others a bit better. Just wondering and you don't owe me an answer.

ken

Sep 1, 2021 - 12:40:12 PM

conic

England

914 posts since 2/15/2014

Jack V, there are a lot of old farts on here that sometimes throw a wobbler but do have some great knowledge they normally glad to share. Jack B has a great tab but is a bit different than the the book.
As its in D tuning f#-D-F#-A-D I think you may mean the G lick up the neck, starts on the 4th string fret 7,8 & 9. PM me and I will scan the two pages for you.

 If your going to the big pickin weekender at the Junction Pub in Rainford on 10th Sept I will bring my book but you should really get the scruggs book if you can afford it someday its a nice thing to own.
I prefer the much more exiting Raymond Fairchild version, Ray was the best banjo picker of all time   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlgFFwYz1fE
 

Sep 1, 2021 - 1:01:10 PM

7103 posts since 8/30/2004

I don't quite understand as my Tabbed version is in the same tuning as in Earl's book...Take a listen...Jack

Reuben

Edited by - Jack Baker on 09/01/2021 13:07:04

Sep 1, 2021 - 1:25:37 PM

193 posts since 5/21/2020

quote:
Originally posted by From Greylock to Bean Blossom
quote:
Originally posted by FenderFred
quote:
Originally posted by From Greylock to Bean Blossom

Fender Fred,
I don't know how long you have been here as you don't offer much information about yourself on your page, but Jack has been giving away tons of tab to the hangout because he wants them to have a home. I have never heard Jack self promote here and he seems like he is more edging his way out of the business rather than being competitive for new business. Jack has contributed to the quality of this site.
Thanks,
ken


Ken, Lets just say I have been here a long while. I know the great contribution Jack has made to this forum over the years and I truly respect him for this and the generous TABs he has given freely. But Jack does step on folks toes from time to time. It just so happens he stepped on mine today, so please don't involve yourself here.  Today this is between Jack and Me. I have said what I had to say and he is quite capable of defending his own corner.  As far as I am concerned this matter has closed. Unless Jack feels the need to take another swing. 


Fine, we have all had our say. Jack has been good and helpful to me for a long time.

Why don't you tell more about yourself on your page? It lets people understand others a bit better. Just wondering and you don't owe me an answer.

ken


Because I choose not to Ken. As I said earlier I try to help others find a solution to their queries. I received so much bad and conflicting advice here on the BHO as a newbie I stepped away from the BHO for a great number of years because of the hostile atmosphere, none of which was aimed in my direction. None the less it had a huge negative impact on my progress.

If you have read any of my posts you will see I make suggestions that folks go check out certain resources that may prove helpful, nay would be greatly beneficial to their progress. I leave it to them to decide what path to follow.

More than that I don't engage myself  in the day to day hassle of the forum. But hey if that's what y'all see as a troll then I get it I am not welcome here and If I am not welcome here then neither is the newbie seeking help.

I hope you will look again at this thread. Look at the advice I gave, look at the way Jack responded and how I replied to his objections. I am NOT a TROLL

I have spend a lot of money supporting teachers in the USA. Some better than others. I have also come across con men here on the BHO who took my money promising quality instruction and failed to deliver. Some advertised here regularly for over a decade. I won't name names because thankfully they are no longer here.

So I hear you ask what experience do I have that would benefit new students.  My own personal banjo journey. I point student's towards teachers I know who deliver on their promises. Better a new student get's a good start rather than being conned don't you think.  This is bound to ruffle a few feathers for sure. 

You may not know this Ken but you have always been a good friend to me.wink

Let's just leave it there shall we.laugh

Edited by - FenderFred on 09/01/2021 13:26:43

Sep 1, 2021 - 1:28:53 PM

conic

England

914 posts since 2/15/2014

Hello Jack , very minor differences. e.g on your measure 8 you have 2 to 3 slide but the earl has 2 to 3 to 2 slide, then after your two pinches at measure 10 yours continues down the neck up to measure 17 then goes up the neck 10th fret choke but earl at measure 10 goes straight to the 10th fret chokes, I know what your gonna say but its either exactly as the book or very close and beginners may get confused with very small detail as i did many times.
All said and done i prefer your tab to the book as it can be played and guitar & bass.

Jack V, use Jack B's tab,............Reuben

Sep 1, 2021 - 1:32:44 PM
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Hi Conic,
Good find. Here is the problem. I did almost all of my Earl tabs based on the recordings at the time. I never tab songs from Books and I don't think Earl's first book was even out yet...That's probably why you like my tab. The kicker is that Earl never ever, ever played the same break twice...Ha...tks...Jack    p.s. ha, I love Raymond Fairchild. I met Raymond at a few gigs and he was a riot and so funny...great great player...Jack

Edited by - Jack Baker on 09/01/2021 13:37:25

Sep 1, 2021 - 1:37:13 PM

conic

England

914 posts since 2/15/2014

quote: Unfortunately there are a few on here who call anybody who don't agree with them a troll, there are even a few dipsticks in England who have called people racists I will not name names but they are being monitored.
Can you now go and update your site details and make sure to include your bank details..yes

Originally posted by FenderFred
quote:
Originally posted by From Greylock to Bean Blossom
quote:
Originally posted by FenderFred
quote:
Originally posted by From Greylock to Bean Blossom

Fender Fred,
I don't know how long you have been here as you don't offer much information about yourself on your page, but Jack has been giving away tons of tab to the hangout because he wants them to have a home. I have never heard Jack self promote here and he seems like he is more edging his way out of the business rather than being competitive for new business. Jack has contributed to the quality of this site.
Thanks,
ken


Ken, Lets just say I have been here a long while. I know the great contribution Jack has made to this forum over the years and I truly respect him for this and the generous TABs he has given freely. But Jack does step on folks toes from time to time. It just so happens he stepped on mine today, so please don't involve yourself here.  Today this is between Jack and Me. I have said what I had to say and he is quite capable of defending his own corner.  As far as I am concerned this matter has closed. Unless Jack feels the need to take another swing. 


Fine, we have all had our say. Jack has been good and helpful to me for a long time.

Why don't you tell more about yourself on your page? It lets people understand others a bit better. Just wondering and you don't owe me an answer.

ken


Because I choose not to Ken. As I said earlier I try to help others find a solution to their queries. I received so much bad and conflicting advice here on the BHO as a newbie I stepped away from the BHO for a great number of years because of the hostile atmosphere, none of which was aimed in my direction. None the less it had a huge negative impact on my progress.

If you have read any of my posts you will see I make suggestions that folks go check out certain resources that may prove helpful, nay would be greatly beneficial to their progress. I leave it to them to decide what path to follow.

More than that I don't engage myself  in the day to day hassle of the forum. But hey if that's what y'all see as a troll then I get it I am not welcome here and If I am not welcome here then neither is the newbie seeking help.

I hope you will look again at this thread. Look at the advice I gave, look at the way Jack responded and how I replied to his objections. I am NOT a TROLL

I have spend a lot of money supporting teachers in the USA. Some better than others. I have also come across con men here on the BHO who took my money promising quality instruction and failed to deliver. Some advertised here regularly for over a decade. I won't name names because thankfully they are no longer here.

So I hear you ask what experience do I have that would benefit new students.  My own personal banjo journey. I point student's towards teachers I know who deliver on their promises. Better a new student get's a good start rather than being conned don't you think.  This is bound to ruffle a few feathers for sure. 

You may not know this Ken but you have always been a good friend to me.wink

Let's just leave it there shall we.laugh


Sep 1, 2021 - 4:14:36 PM

birdman

USA

492 posts since 8/24/2004

This man ask for help with a banjo lick and gets hammered for it. Great job BHO

Sep 2, 2021 - 1:14:32 AM
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phb

Germany

2978 posts since 11/8/2010

Tell you what, a week ago I attended the "Banjoree", a German old time & bluegrass meeting that is really great. It's a get-together of enthusiasts from Germany and other countries. There are no fees and no professional teachers, just volunteers offering workshops on any subject they like and feel competent about. The idea is that anyone has something to offer and everyone is free to take it. It's a really great meeting and there are top musicians, really some of the very best.

So there I was and we happened to talk about "Salty Dog Blues". I said that this was pretty much how Earl played it and played it like I had transcribed it. A friend asked me about the up-the-neck section played over the A chord and I explained it again adding that I wasn't entirely sure the walk on the 2nd string was exactly as Earl played it, I tabbed and played it as I found it convenient. So that other guy starts his laptop and opens some tabs and we compare. Looks like I tabbed it right. The tabs that other guy opened were Jack Baker's. That's who Jack Baker is, a reference.

Sep 2, 2021 - 6:40:09 PM
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birdman

USA

492 posts since 8/24/2004

quote:
Originally posted by phb

Tell you what, a week ago I attended the "Banjoree", a German old time & bluegrass meeting that is really great. It's a get-together of enthusiasts from Germany and other countries. There are no fees and no professional teachers, just volunteers offering workshops on any subject they like and feel competent about. The idea is that anyone has something to offer and everyone is free to take it. It's a really great meeting and there are top musicians, really some of the very best.

So there I was and we happened to talk about "Salty Dog Blues". I said that this was pretty much how Earl played it and played it like I had transcribed it. A friend asked me about the up-the-neck section played over the A chord and I explained it again adding that I wasn't entirely sure the walk on the 2nd string was exactly as Earl played it, I tabbed and played it as I found it convenient. So that other guy starts his laptop and opens some tabs and we compare. Looks like I tabbed it right. The tabs that other guy opened were Jack Baker's. That's who Jack Baker is, a reference.


  So what?

Sep 14, 2021 - 4:15:39 PM
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Tim13

USA

3167 posts since 4/1/2008

All this over one tabbed lick, in one tabbed song.  surprise  I've seen political forums with less friction!

Oct 5, 2021 - 9:06:20 AM

ChunoTheDog

Canada

1029 posts since 8/9/2019

quote:
Originally posted by birdman
quote:
Originally posted by phb

Tell you what, a week ago I attended the "Banjoree", a German old time & bluegrass meeting that is really great. It's a get-together of enthusiasts from Germany and other countries. There are no fees and no professional teachers, just volunteers offering workshops on any subject they like and feel competent about. The idea is that anyone has something to offer and everyone is free to take it. It's a really great meeting and there are top musicians, really some of the very best.

So there I was and we happened to talk about "Salty Dog Blues". I said that this was pretty much how Earl played it and played it like I had transcribed it. A friend asked me about the up-the-neck section played over the A chord and I explained it again adding that I wasn't entirely sure the walk on the 2nd string was exactly as Earl played it, I tabbed and played it as I found it convenient. So that other guy starts his laptop and opens some tabs and we compare. Looks like I tabbed it right. The tabs that other guy opened were Jack Baker's. That's who Jack Baker is, a reference.


  So what?


I too fail to see any point... Earl is the reference.

Angry Jack 'you don't know Earl' Baker strikes again lol I love his posts, seems he's going off the rails lately. 

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