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Aug 29, 2021 - 4:34:45 PM
1069 posts since 12/8/2006

Fifty years of smoke, skin oils, whatever on a Vega 'burst' neck. What did you use successfully remove it without damaging the original finish? Any help is appreciated. Paul

Aug 29, 2021 - 4:42:37 PM
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mbanza

USA

2389 posts since 9/16/2007

I've had surprisingly good results using a cloth dampened with soapy water.

Aug 29, 2021 - 4:50:02 PM

572 posts since 5/22/2021

quote:
Originally posted by mbanza

I've had surprisingly good results using a cloth dampened with soapy water.


I'd suggest the same!

Aug 29, 2021 - 5:01:23 PM
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Helix

USA

14585 posts since 8/30/2006

Paul and I live Az where the humidity is low

I suggest a microfiber cloth with a weak simple green solution to gather those broken organic molecules. Schmutz

BUT my lifetime woodworker friend and I were discussing that yesterday and

MINERAL SPIRITS will do the deed

 

what got me is the tobacco tar that has to be put into solution somehow

Edited by - Helix on 08/29/2021 17:07:53

Aug 29, 2021 - 5:05:09 PM
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496 posts since 5/29/2015

cleaning instruments is a process of a series of cleaners. You use the least aggressive cleaner first. Soap and water. If that does not work move onto something else. My second step choice for lacquer finishes is Naptha. Some sources of "dirt" like cigarette smoke have become integrated with the lacquer and will not come off. We call this patina.

Aug 29, 2021 - 5:15:55 PM
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Helix

USA

14585 posts since 8/30/2006

I agree with the naphtha and use it to clean pre gluing,

I also have a color coded array of spray bottles from distilled water, colloidal silver to 70% isopropyl to Windex and dilute  simple green
The microfiber adds help.
He’s right, about tobacco grabbing things, Paul, you may indeed find the surface clogged
That’s why the mineral spirits

weve been using dilute vinegar for both dishes and spin mop microfiber for tile to 

There's some options

Let us know

Edited by - Helix on 08/29/2021 17:36:38

Aug 29, 2021 - 5:29:34 PM
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Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

25208 posts since 6/25/2005

Soft cotton cloth and Formula 409. Plus patience. 409 has been tested and vetted by veteran banjo picker, luthier and biological scientist Sean Barry. I think he has an essay on it somewhere in the archives.

Aug 29, 2021 - 5:38:37 PM
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Helix

USA

14585 posts since 8/30/2006

If that is so, I am better informed. remember I had a banjo to clean recently
I’ll go try 409

Aug 30, 2021 - 6:13:57 AM

14237 posts since 10/30/2008

Go very easy on the rubbing/polishing on a 60s Vega. The stain/finish combo is extremely thin and weak and will rub down to bare maple with a lot less effort than you would guess!

A friend was given a nice Martin guitar that had stood in a corner of a bar/grill kitchen for years and the grease and smoke on it was unbelievable! He cleaned it slowly and patiently with Windex and a t shirt. But, Martin finish is a LOT tougher than 1960s Vega stain/finish.

Be gentle!

Aug 30, 2021 - 10:08:39 AM

1069 posts since 12/8/2006

Thanks all. I will be cleaning (attempting) a 60s Eddie Peabody Model neck. What a weird banjo-deep resonator, long bracket spacers, etc. Strange! I'll let you know of progress. Paul

Aug 30, 2021 - 10:09:47 AM

11753 posts since 10/27/2006

Naphtha if soap and water can't do it. Test a small spot first.

I would never use alcohol to clean a Vega — ever.

Aug 31, 2021 - 3:37:40 AM

Bill H

USA

1727 posts since 11/7/2010

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Originally posted by mikehalloran

Naphtha if soap and water can't do it. Test a small spot first.

I would never use alcohol to clean a Vega — ever.


I will second this warning. This is a stupid mistake I have made. Vega necks are most likely finished with French polish, a shellac based finish that will wipe right off with alcohol. Solvents can be effective, but should be employed very carefully. 

Aug 31, 2021 - 7:26:38 AM

beegee

USA

22475 posts since 7/6/2005

Murphy’s oil Soap and water

Aug 31, 2021 - 7:29:55 AM

6474 posts since 9/21/2007

quote:
Originally posted by Shop the Folk

Thanks all. I will be cleaning (attempting) a 60s Eddie Peabody Model neck. What a weird banjo-deep resonator, long bracket spacers, etc. Strange! I'll let you know of progress. Paul


Sounds like a Vox, not that strange if it is.

Aug 31, 2021 - 11:55:15 AM
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1069 posts since 12/8/2006

It looks like a fake Vox




 

Aug 31, 2021 - 12:03:42 PM

Jbo1

USA

1048 posts since 5/19/2007

A fake Vox? Would that be a Faux?

I hope you are doing well Paul. That Gibson ES Golden Deluxe you sold me years ago still turns heads. I've gotten more compliments about its tone. Funny, no one mentions my playing....

Aug 31, 2021 - 12:11:55 PM

572 posts since 5/22/2021

If you got a long-neck, lucky you! Always wanted a seeger long neck but can not afford them, so I am trying to make my own now. I hope it turns out well!

Aug 31, 2021 - 12:50:34 PM
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1069 posts since 12/8/2006

Hi Jim, Glad it's still turning heads, but which way? It's LOUD? Paul

Aug 31, 2021 - 1:23 PM

11753 posts since 10/27/2006

quote:
Originally posted by Shop the Folk

It looks like a fake Vox


The Eddie Peabody line was a set of inexpensive banjos. There are a few different versions under that name but this is the first I've seen with the deep Vox resonator and bolt-on flange. Most have a one-piece stamped flange not unlike the Gibson OPF with bent hooks.

Mr. Peabody, himself, was a Vega dealer and banjos were part of the merch you could pick up at his shows. He also did special orders for those he knew and there are usually signed letters that accompany those. You should compare his signature against the label to see if he signed it.

Aug 31, 2021 - 3:10:14 PM
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1069 posts since 12/8/2006

Ah ha! Mystery solved. That's why there was no catalog listings. Thanks Mike.

Aug 31, 2021 - 3:27:43 PM

14237 posts since 10/30/2008

I believe the Peabody model also had no tone ring?

Aug 31, 2021 - 3:53:02 PM

1069 posts since 12/8/2006

Correct. Top rim edge like a Ranger but two thin co-rods

Sep 1, 2021 - 6:13 PM

11753 posts since 10/27/2006

There have been a few threads over the years but all have been about the regular depth rim with the stamped flange. I've been trying to locate an image on one for this thread.

Still can't find one but did run across Robert Peabody's page with some interesting images of other instruments used by his father:

George Robert Peabody: The Eddie Peabody Collection

Edited by - mikehalloran on 09/01/2021 18:23:03

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