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Aug 22, 2021 - 1:16:39 AM
10 posts since 11/15/2006

Hi from the UK. I’m looking for help! My all-time favourite intro to a banjo tune is by Kane Welch & Kaplin (their version of Lost John Dean). Two bars (ok, measures!) of brilliance that I can’t quite figure out. Anyone care to have a try? Hope no-one minds, but I’ve slowed these down a bit and put them into an audio clip which you'll see in the video. I think we’re in double C, and the rhythm suggests clawhammer, although I’m not 100pc certain this is downpicking. The key question to me is how to get that syncopation. When I do it, it sounds square and plodding. So are there alternate-string pull-offs here - or what?

Aug 22, 2021 - 10:42:26 AM
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Aug 22, 2021 - 11:19:33 AM

banjo bill-e

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And here is a link to   the slowed down part

Aug 22, 2021 - 1:14:01 PM
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dbrooks

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4122 posts since 3/11/2004

I wasn't sure which two measures were in question until the post by Banjo Bill-e. I had already started to tab the banjo part at the end of the video. (The intro and the banjo break in the middle are all a bit different.) Here's what I hear in the banjo. I would play the syncopation with a drop thumb though an open-string pull-off can work.

David


Aug 22, 2021 - 1:41:53 PM

10 posts since 11/15/2006

@dbrooks Thank you David! (I had problems linking my video upload to the post in which I asked the question - sorry about that). I’m looking forward to trying out what you’ve tabbed in the fresh light of morning (it’s getting late here!)

Aug 22, 2021 - 1:54:36 PM

10 posts since 11/15/2006

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Originally posted by banjo bill-e

And here is a link to   the slowed down part


Thanks Bill!

Aug 22, 2021 - 11:33:40 PM

10 posts since 11/15/2006

Not too sure actually which measures you looked at David. In any case I’m wondering whether my opening two measures feature a guitar and a banjo operating closely together and sounding a bit like one instrument? The guitar may be doing a sort of basic boogie figure. If so I just need to focus my ears harder on the banjo. This band is playing beautifully in one very tight pocket!

Aug 23, 2021 - 4:09:38 AM
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dbrooks

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4122 posts since 3/11/2004

Neil, you are correct that the instruments are tightly bound, and some of the syncopation may be from the guitar. I tabbed out the instrumental outro at the end of the video. I heard only two instances of syncopation - the 1st and 3rd measures in the 2nd line of tab. If you'd like a matching MP3 generated by the tab, send me a private message through the Hangout.

David

Aug 23, 2021 - 12:02:10 PM
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Aug 23, 2021 - 2:49:45 PM

10 posts since 11/15/2006

We’re getting warm Rick. But I think I’ll have to try your tab with actual human fingers in the morning. These mp3s are helpful… up to a point, huh…!

Aug 23, 2021 - 2:56:43 PM

10 posts since 11/15/2006

Here’s my version, fwiw. (Scroll down a bit. Sorry!)

I’ve not managed to tab it out properly so that it makes an mp3 soundtrack that sounds exactly like what my fingers are doing. Hmmm: that may mean this handwritten tab isn’t any good either as a reflection of what I’m managing to play. Doh!

Edited by - Neilgal on 08/23/2021 14:58:52

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