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Aug 18, 2021 - 7:08:49 AM
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Youtube  Dang, what can't this boy do? 

Aug 18, 2021 - 7:16:54 AM
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YellowSkyBlueSun

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416 posts since 5/11/2021

Aug 18, 2021 - 7:30:15 AM
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janolov

Sweden

41208 posts since 3/7/2006

I think that was an excellent example of clawhammering a resonator banjo!

Aug 18, 2021 - 7:43:04 AM

1817 posts since 7/4/2009

Sub-par playing but he's hanging on the edge of doing some quality ballad singing here.

"Midnight on the Stormy Deep," posted above, is the best thing he's done so far.

I haven't changed my mind about him but he's gotten a lot better.

Edited by - UncleClawhammer on 08/18/2021 07:45:31

Aug 18, 2021 - 12:32:55 PM
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Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

25214 posts since 6/25/2005

He’s still a kid. Remember, we didn’t really see and hear Doc Watson until he was in his late 30s.

Edited by - Bill Rogers on 08/18/2021 12:33:57

Aug 18, 2021 - 12:54:43 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by UncleClawhammer

Sub-par playing but he's hanging on the edge of doing some quality ballad singing here.

"Midnight on the Stormy Deep," posted above, is the best thing he's done so far.

I haven't changed my mind about him but he's gotten a lot better.


Honest question.  I am not trolling or looking to start an argument.  I just am trying to improve my ears.  Specifically, what about his playing is sub par?  Let me know and then I can go back to the video for a second pass and see if I can pick out the flaws and make myself a more discerning listener which I think will improve my playing.

Thanks.

Aug 18, 2021 - 5:29:22 PM
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YellowSkyBlueSun

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416 posts since 5/11/2021

Sometimes I wonder what it is about certain musicians that attract the type of person to actively dislike them.

In other words what I'm saying is... for example there are musicians that I don't particularly care for, for various reasons. Flatt Lonesome, as an example. They're just not for me, no offense if you like them. But when Flatt Lonesome is posted, I don't feel the need to chime in and make sure everyone knows that I don't like them. If people are having a conversation about that band, I don't step up to conversation and start talking about all their downsides. I just keep moving until I find a musician I do like, and contribute positively to them rather than tearing down someone else. At the end of the day, I realize that Flatt Lonesome fans don't really care about my opinion, and so I keep it to myself.

I've noticed that certain musicians tend to attract droves of these people. Sometimes I wonder, do these people do this for all musicians they don't like, or just a select few? Is there certain criteria that makes someone actively dislike a musician in this way? Or perhaps these people really think their opinion is so important, that they must interject their negativity into every conversation they come across. 

Generally speaking, of course.

Maybe drift thread. Maybe not.

Edited by - YellowSkyBlueSun on 08/18/2021 17:31:04

Aug 18, 2021 - 5:30:40 PM
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The video seems to have been taken down. I thought the accompaniment was just a little too fast, too cluttered, and too intrusive, distracting from the vocal rather than complimenting it, which is what an accompaniment ought to do, especially for a song like "Wagoner's Lad," which is almost a ballad. I would almost prefer to hear him singing unaccompanied; he does a great version of "Idumea" ("Am I Born to Die?")

"Midnight on the Stormy Deep" is beautiful, but is basically a note for note recreation of Bill Monroe's recording, either with Doc Watson or Peter Rowan. That may just be creative fidelity to tradition rather than imitation. I'm not sure.

This is a public forum dedicated to music, and I see nothing wrong with sharing opinions, positive or negative, on the musicians discussed. I was actually complimenting Mr. Strings, seeing as very recently his performances seemed totally superficial to me. I agree with Bill, and hope he continues to improve.

Edited by - UncleClawhammer on 08/18/2021 17:40:11

Aug 18, 2021 - 7:38:46 PM
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Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

25214 posts since 6/25/2005

Billy's playing of traditional tunes is highly derivative, though I think his admiration for Doc Watson is genuine to the point of wanting to preserve and carry on Doc's music and style. Sometimes he strains to hard to do that. His stage shows border on rock, though with bluegrass instruments. He is brilliantly talented, and as he matures, will develop his own performance style for traditional music, and learn to temper his guitar playing. It's called "taste," and is something that musicians are not born with, but develop over time. Compare Billy Strings with another, not-as-young brilliant guitar player, Bryan Sutton, to see what I mean. Sutton is also a fine clawhammer player, as is, lest we forget, Ricky Skaggs.

Aug 19, 2021 - 4:07:27 AM

1835 posts since 4/10/2005

His ''taste'' factor is very nice when he's playing straight traditional instrumental--the clip posted above of ''Cold Frosty Morning'' on openback is lovely.   When you're talking about folk music it's hardly a minus to play in a style rather than ''innovate,'' or spin, though that has its place.  To me in the open back and mandolin clips he's showing his taste as well as his traditional folk background--he did grow up steeped in it and that is very clear in those 2 clips.

Edited by - ceemonster on 08/19/2021 04:18:40

Aug 19, 2021 - 4:40:20 AM
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YellowSkyBlueSun

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416 posts since 5/11/2021

youtu.be/R9acWD9NPmg

This is a better version of him playing Wagoners Lad.

Aug 19, 2021 - 11:43:18 AM
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1538 posts since 5/19/2018

I just watched the Waggoners Lad video and a few others. The young man is good, I really liked the Bluegrass cut above also, so instead of criticizing, let’s us older folks tip our hats to him for continuing on with the tradition. By the time he is my age, I’ll be gone and it will he that will be the Senior Player that younger folks try and emulate.

A weird off-side after watching the video, I’m pretty sure the bike behind him on the Waggoner Video is one of mine that I gave to another banjoist a few years ago. If so, it is really strange how things get around.

Aug 25, 2021 - 7:31:45 PM

1817 posts since 7/4/2009

This is the best performance from Mr. Strings that I've heard.

Aug 25, 2021 - 8:19:18 PM

134 posts since 12/9/2018

quote:
Originally posted by UncleClawhammer

This is the best performance from Mr. Strings that I've heard.


Billy closed his first set with this in Indianapolis last Saturday and it was fantastic.

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