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Aug 5, 2021 - 10:05:19 AM
15 posts since 8/5/2021

Hi,

I am in the UK and own a Bart Reiter Whyte Ladye - don't expect there are too many of those over here. My problem is I am finding it just too heavy for me. I am a 5' female and this is a beautiful but heavy instrument.

In order to buy a new banjo I need to sell this one but have no idea of it's value. It is is stunning condition, no cracks. The only modification is it has a JD Balch calf skin head.

So any idea what it would be a selling price and recommendations for a lightweight but top notch open back.

Thank you :)

Aug 5, 2021 - 10:16:18 AM
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YellowSkyBlueSun

Virgin Islands (U.S.)

328 posts since 5/11/2021
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There's one listed in the the classifieds for $1650. I'd start there. Hard to say if being in the UK raises or lowers the value, supply is lower but so is the customer base.

Keep in mind Bart Reiter retired last year, so what's out there is all that ever will be. I'm not sure how this has affected used values but it's something to consider.

Aug 5, 2021 - 10:23:09 AM

15 posts since 8/5/2021

Hi

Thank you for your response. I have never come across anyone else in the UK with one of these so really am at a loss. Last Bart Reiter that sold over here was the basic model and that went for £1700 - around $2200. Mrs M :)

Aug 5, 2021 - 11:41:32 AM

957 posts since 6/25/2006

I don't know about price but I would think it would be highly desirable for old-time music (it is really expensive to import US made banjos, he is a well-respected builder plus he has recently retired).  You could advertise it here on the Hangout and also through FOATMAD:https://foaotmad.weebly.com/  

Eagle music have some interesting banjos you could try: Ome Tupelo, the Ode Magician and Sundance models, Nechville Atlas....although they never show whether items are in-stock, best check first.

Edited by - hobogal on 08/05/2021 11:48:25

Aug 5, 2021 - 12:20:17 PM

Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

25116 posts since 6/25/2005

Please post pictures. Bart made several different iterations of his White Laydie—they vary in value according to their construction and decoration. As the years passsed, he simplified construction and inlay work. A few early ones can fetch 2,500 USD. Late ones, with far plainer inlays and simpler pot construction, can sell for !,000 USD less, particularly because they are not substantially different than Regent or Galax models from those years.

Edited by - Bill Rogers on 08/05/2021 12:22:11

Aug 5, 2021 - 2:30:32 PM

15 posts since 8/5/2021

hobogal - I have an appointment at Eagle music for Monday afternoon and the banjo I am thinking of is the Ome Tupelo :) They will consider p/x but wanted to get some idea of what my banjo may be worth. :)

Aug 5, 2021 - 2:39:47 PM

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@MrsM photos would be really helpful to those quoting you value, I have a Bart Reiter Grand Concert that i love the voice it has don't believe i will ever part with it, will most likely will it to my son or daughter when i am gone i will agree with you Reiters are heavy for an open back banjo

Aug 5, 2021 - 2:47:57 PM
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dbrooks

USA

4102 posts since 3/11/2004

One of my students at Kemtucky Music Week had an Ome Tupelo a few years ago. My memory is a bit faded, but I recall it being slightly lighter than a Reiter. If your Reiter has any fancy engraving, it may be worth more than the Tupelo. The Tupelo's 25.5" scale and 2-ply rim will weigh less than the standard scale and 3-ply rim that your Reiter may have. Spend some time to see if you are comfortable with the 12-inch pot compared to the 11-inch pot of your Reiter. I am a Reiter fan, but I did enjoy playing the Tupelo and thought it sounded bquite nice.

David

Aug 5, 2021 - 3:15:35 PM
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Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

25116 posts since 6/25/2005

Dbrooks is correct: Do not get a 12” rim banjo without playing it. Some people (I’m one.) find them awkward and uncomfortable. That said, Ome makes superb banjos. They have styles with and without tone rings and use and have used several different tone rings.

Aug 5, 2021 - 11:33:53 PM
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957 posts since 6/25/2006

MrsM oooh, how exciting - hope you find something just right for you! :)
quote:Originally posted by MrsMhobogal - I have an appointment at Eagle music for Monday afternoon and the banjo I am thinking of is the Ome Tupelo :) They will consider p/x but wanted to get some idea of what my banjo may be worth. :)

Aug 6, 2021 - 2:35:24 AM

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Aug 6, 2021 - 2:35:59 AM

15 posts since 8/5/2021

struggling to work out how to add photos - duh!


 

Aug 6, 2021 - 3:26:16 AM

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Aug 6, 2021 - 5:17:04 AM

3787 posts since 4/29/2012

If you look at the used(SOLD) list on the Eagle site they sold a plainer, brass hoop Reiter for £1600. This fancier Whyte Laydie should be easily swappable for a £2000 Ome Tupelo with a bit to spare.
If you haven't played a 12" before then spend some time trying it out at Eagle before you commit. It may seem comfortable for a few minutes - But not after a 3 hour session. The only regular at our session who plays a 12" is well over 6 feet tall.

Aug 6, 2021 - 5:26:28 AM

JSB88

UK

256 posts since 3/9/2017

That is one beautiful banjo, I bet the tone is beautiful too

Aug 6, 2021 - 8:45:44 AM

15 posts since 8/5/2021

AndrewD thank you for taking the time to repsond.
I spoke to Matt at Eagle music today about pt/ex but only if I upgrade and suspect he will want a fair bit of money from me to do that.
If Eagle sell it on consignment, they charge 33% commission and that is moe than I had expected.
I am getting a bit stressed about it as the situation for me is I have had surgery for cancer that has left me with scar tissue and soft tissue damage in my left shoulder and upper arm,
So I have the most beautiful and for the UK, rare instrument that is just too heavy for me to play.
I could just hang onto it for a while as it isn't going to depreciate and go buy myself a Deering Goodtime so at least I can start enjoying playing again.

JSB88 - it is indeed a beautiful tone - best old time sound I have ever heard especially having the calf skin head on it. :)

Aug 6, 2021 - 10:21:50 AM
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MrsM, I don't know where in the UK you are, but you may wish to contact Phillip Alexander at  John Alvery Turner in Camden Town, London. He certainly takes in higher end banjos for resale. Whether and on what terms he does consignment sales I cannot say, but it cannot hurt to talk with him. He is knowledgeable and pleasant to deal with, at least in my experience. Best of luck.

Aug 6, 2021 - 12:00:15 PM
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Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

25116 posts since 6/25/2005

33% commission is way too high. Sounds like they really don’t want consignments. You need to post a pic of the banjo shell (the round part) from the back. You have a fairly early Reiter that’s likely worth over 2,000USD, maybe more depending on the shell.

Aug 6, 2021 - 1:48:12 PM

1821 posts since 4/10/2005

I believe the rim construction of Reiter Whyte Laydies remained a constant throughout the run--these banjos got an American-made 5/8" thickness 3- ply rim of the type that usually goes into Gibson-style bluegrass resonator banjos. They are very sturdy and give a strong sound.

What differed was, some Reiter WLs got a metal casing known as a bracket band--this was a feature of the classic full-spec original Fairbanks/Vega Whyte Laydies.

As the Reiter WL simplified over the years, the sturdy 3-ply 5/8 rims continued, but bracket bands ceased as a feature. Some of the fancier earlier models also got a high-gloss finish which became more matte over the years.

Inlay--there can also be inlay differences--early on, there were WLs with super-fancy inlay in the style of the antique Fairbanks or Vega "Whyte Laydie No. 9," versus lovely and elegant but simpler, "Whyte Laydie No. 2" inlay So that is something else that can make a significant price differential in a Reiter WL.

Aug 6, 2021 - 2:17:34 PM

15 posts since 8/5/2021

could someone please explain how I add a photo banjohangout.org/forum/attachm...ID=277170

Aug 6, 2021 - 2:22:43 PM

15 posts since 8/5/2021

fingers crossed for photos serial number is 2238


Edited by - MrsM on 08/06/2021 14:23:59

Aug 6, 2021 - 3:52:24 PM
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Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

25116 posts since 6/25/2005

Okay, you have an earlier banjo, but not one with a bracket band, which would be the least common and most valuable version of the Reiter White Laydie. I’ll stay with my estimate of US$2,000+. This is an excellent and not overly common banjo. tt may not be as in-demand in the UK as it would be here in the US, but if you’re patient it should bring a good return. If you don’t sell it yourself, I hope you can find a reasonable arrangement with a dealer.

Aug 7, 2021 - 1:01:11 PM
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JSB88

UK

256 posts since 3/9/2017

quote:
Originally posted by Remsleep

MrsM, I don't know where in the UK you are, but you may wish to contact Phillip Alexander at  John Alvery Turner in Camden Town, London. He certainly takes in higher end banjos for resale. Whether and on what terms he does consignment sales I cannot say, but it cannot hurt to talk with him. He is knowledgeable and pleasant to deal with, at least in my experience. Best of luck.


I recently bought a banjo from here and found him excellent to deal with. I don't know about commission sales but he does do part ex and has some lovely turn of the century banjos

Aug 7, 2021 - 1:11:28 PM

15 posts since 8/5/2021

Remsleep
I shall see how I get on at Eagle Music on Monday afternoon. I am not an advanced player and only play for my own pleasure - my ideal would be to come away with a nice Deering and some cash but don't think that is likely. So thank you very much for the recommendation for John Avery Turner.

I prefer not to do a private sale as the truth is I have a banjo way beyond my playing capability and technical understanding. I bought in over in the States and brought it home on the Queen Mary 2 :)

My priority is to get a banjo that is reliable and weighs around 5 pounds - this Reiter is almost 15 pounds and just too heavy for me. :)

Aug 7, 2021 - 10:05:36 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by MrsM

Remsleep
I shall see how I get on at Eagle Music on Monday afternoon. I am not an advanced player and only play for my own pleasure - my ideal would be to come away with a nice Deering and some cash but don't think that is likely. So thank you very much for the recommendation for John Avery Turner.

I prefer not to do a private sale as the truth is I have a banjo way beyond my playing capability and technical understanding. I bought in over in the States and brought it home on the Queen Mary 2 :)

My priority is to get a banjo that is reliable and weighs around 5 pounds - this Reiter is almost 15 pounds and just too heavy for me. :)


That is heavy for an open back i thought my Reiter Grand Concert was heavy but it is no where close to 15 pounds that is closer in weight to the Resonator banjo I have are you sure the scale you used to weigh it on was working correctly that just seems quite heavy for the banjo you have

Edited by - Don Smith1959 on 08/07/2021 22:06:40

Aug 7, 2021 - 10:54:06 PM
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1821 posts since 4/10/2005

The Bart Reiter website had a serial number dating list the last I checked. That might be helpful.

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