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Aug 3, 2021 - 4:53:59 AM

Ukeman

USA

26 posts since 2/24/2007

Any thoughts on this one? Brought to me for rehab and set-up. Marked "025" on pot and headstock. Nice neck, USA made hardware with round shoes.


Edited by - Ukeman on 08/03/2021 04:56:57

Aug 3, 2021 - 7:10:46 AM
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3920 posts since 5/29/2011

Except for the shape of the peghead it screams ODE. But some of the early banjos from their shop had one of a kind features. It might be worth contacting the OME Banjo Co. to find out.

Aug 3, 2021 - 7:26:48 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Ukeman

Any thoughts on this one? Brought to me for rehab and set-up. Marked "025" on pot and headstock. Nice neck, USA made hardware with round shoes.


Nice long neck! I have never been able to afford them, but I am trying to build one myself, basically from scratch.

Nice Find anyhow!

Aug 3, 2021 - 7:28:19 AM
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TLG

USA

1589 posts since 10/11/2004

yea, could be an early ODE, from the heel design, centre stripe on the neck. Check the inside of the pot for lettering, if it has 28 brackets ?
Post more pics

Aug 3, 2021 - 7:41:29 AM

7234 posts since 11/4/2005

I vote Ode. Britt had a couple like it.  It's got that cast and spun aluminum pot.

Edited by - Don Borchelt on 08/03/2021 07:44:18

Aug 3, 2021 - 7:57:11 AM

RB3

USA

1080 posts since 4/12/2004

It could just be an old Stewart-MacDonald kit banjo. I used to own a Gariepy banjo that also incorporated a cast aluminum pot.

Aug 3, 2021 - 9:14:01 AM

3920 posts since 5/29/2011

It could be StewMac but, if it is, someone went to a lot of trouble to copy the heel shape and the three piece center stripe from ODE.

Aug 3, 2021 - 6:31:19 PM
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Helix

USA

14498 posts since 8/30/2006

Colorado University Boulder machine shop

I would like to see the inside of the rim and the front of the headstock

A shortneck?
She’s 025 of some series, nice find

Aug 3, 2021 - 7:46:30 PM
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Helix

USA

14498 posts since 8/30/2006

The first 125 ODES were longnecks with the harpoon headstock

Aug 3, 2021 - 8:32:12 PM

Ukeman

USA

26 posts since 2/24/2007

Ate you calling the one I posted a harpoon headstock?

I found this from am interview with the founder of ODE:

"CO: Well, in those days it probably was! I made the first hundred in 1960. They all had long necks, an aluminum pot, and a flathead configuration. They had maple necks with a walnut center stripe, and had two peghead shapes. One was a guitar-ish rectangular shape. The other was a turn-of-the-century, symmetrical, figure-eight type peghead. Each banjo was $72 dollars, but I had some with a little nicer wood for $79 dollars."

Aug 3, 2021 - 9:26:46 PM
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The harpoon peg head looks like this.


 

Aug 4, 2021 - 5:50:33 AM
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Helix

USA

14498 posts since 8/30/2006

Yes, we know these things, too. We know what the harpoon looks like.
I think Mr. Ogsbury has cleared this up.
Ian McPherson bought one of the harpoons for the $79 and still has the case.

Still, just a few extra photos of the inside of #025.

Aug 4, 2021 - 9:04:17 AM
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Lew H

USA

2664 posts since 3/10/2008

I didn't know Ode made raised-head banjos. Stew-Mac did make pots and kits with raised heads.

Aug 4, 2021 - 9:20:39 AM

Ukeman

USA

26 posts since 2/24/2007

I am away from home for a few days with limited data access. I'll post more pics when I return home.

The banjo's owner is trying to find out more from her family about the banjos origin. We're in NC.

Thanks for all the info and comments so far, my money's on it being one of those first 100 Ode longnecks.

Aug 4, 2021 - 11:08:04 AM
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Originally posted by Lew H

I didn't know Ode made raised-head banjos. Stew-Mac did make pots and kits with raised heads.


Oh gosh yes. I've seen more arch than flat top ODE 5s over the years.

The first were straight aluminum pipe but shortly after, Chuck & crew used a cast pot with two lips: the inner was higher creating an arch top; grind it down, you have a flat head like mine. Those pots have a slight taper making the correct neck angle built in.

Later, they did all sorts of things like bronze caps on one lip or the other, raised tone rings and such. Properly set up, those can get Stelling Loud.

The OP banjo has the round Elton hardware that ODE used.

The original Stew-Mac aluminum pots were ODE with the raised logo ground off. Kix Stewart started Stew-Mac out of the ODE parts dept. where makers like Christy got theirs, also with the logo ground off.

Aug 4, 2021 - 12:24:48 PM
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Ukeman

USA

26 posts since 2/24/2007

Mikehalloran, "CHRISTY!" That's the name I was trying to remember. I tried to sell a Christy for a friend a couple of years ago. No one here knew anything about them and i could get any interest in it. I'll bet the owner still has it and would sell it.

Aug 4, 2021 - 8:54:14 PM

11702 posts since 10/27/2006

quote:
Originally posted by Ukeman

Mikehalloran, "CHRISTY!" That's the name I was trying to remember. I tried to sell a Christy for a friend a couple of years ago. No one here knew anything about them and i could get any interest in it. I'll bet the owner still has it and would sell it.


Start a new thread and post plenty of pictures!

Aug 5, 2021 - 6:17:42 AM
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Helix

USA

14498 posts since 8/30/2006

"CO: Well, in those days it probably was! I made the first hundred in 1960. They all had long necks, an aluminum pot, and a flathead configuration.

And Agricultural grade is still available.

Aug 5, 2021 - 6:46:08 AM

Ukeman

USA

26 posts since 2/24/2007

A few more pics. The only thing that doesn't match the description of the early ODE's is that this has a Walnut neck with a 3 piece center stripe. Headstock is different as well.

Aug 5, 2021 - 6:46:30 AM

Ukeman

USA

26 posts since 2/24/2007

Oh, 24 brackets.

Aug 8, 2021 - 5:17:35 PM

Ukeman

USA

26 posts since 2/24/2007

One more feature i forgot to mention - there is no 5th string pip and no sign there ever was one.

Aug 11, 2021 - 4:46:46 PM

Ukeman

USA

26 posts since 2/24/2007

I've sent info and pictures to OME - they are currently "out of office." Hope to get a response.

Aug 11, 2021 - 9:35:22 PM

1247 posts since 3/21/2013

quote:
Originally posted by Ukeman

Mikehalloran, "CHRISTY!" That's the name I was trying to remember. I tried to sell a Christy for a friend a couple of years ago. No one here knew anything about them and i could get any interest in it. I'll bet the owner still has it and would sell it.


Bernunzio has 2 for sale right now in case anyone wants pictures...

Aug 12, 2021 - 4:15:10 PM

11702 posts since 10/27/2006

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Originally posted by jun3machina
quote:
Originally posted by Ukeman

Mikehalloran, "CHRISTY!" That's the name I was trying to remember. I tried to sell a Christy for a friend a couple of years ago. No one here knew anything about them and i could get any interest in it. I'll bet the owner still has it and would sell it.


Bernunzio has 2 for sale right now in case anyone wants pictures...


I see the listings but no pictures yet.

Aug 13, 2021 - 4:12:43 AM
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Helix

USA

14498 posts since 8/30/2006

Ukeman, this has been a great thread. It's the youths, the yoots as they say up North. The young people in IT jobs, isolated in cubicles, and just the quarantine in general, people reach for their roots. Yoots with no roots.

Some people just don't like longnecks, so they deride those who share the great benefit of more music.
I use 6 spikes, some times I spike the root note, sometimes it's different, but I have the choice. I play duets with my mandolin buddy, so the capo is above the 5th tuner, John Stewart played Reverend Mr. Black in E with the spike at 16, I think.

If your friend has a Christy to market, this is the correct place, ugly ducklings turns into a flock of swans as longnecketeers.

If none of the old hippies know what to do with it, give it to the yoots.


Edited by - Helix on 08/13/2021 04:14:06

Aug 13, 2021 - 4:51:36 AM

Ukeman

USA

26 posts since 2/24/2007

Thanks, Helix! The owner picked up the banjo yesterday. They are thrilled. I did not install a 5th string pip, awaiting, hopefully, the true identity of the banjo.

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