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Jul 30, 2021 - 6:08:14 AM
34224 posts since 3/5/2008

Effectively..eliminated.....


B ecose we all want the shiny bobbles of convenience....
N...New fangled technology.....

I do recall...
Not all that long ago...
That folks that called cellphones...n other devices...as a form of spywear...

Wackahloons....


N....Conspiracy theorist.....

But I think it is ..safe now...to make that claim...
N have it accepted as...Common Knowledge.... :0/

Jul 30, 2021 - 6:12:13 AM
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banjo bill-e

Tuvalu

11515 posts since 2/22/2007

Privacy is what other people grant you. Stealth is flying under the radar. Privacy is dead. Embrace stealth!

Jul 30, 2021 - 6:21:41 AM

1940 posts since 2/4/2013

quote:
Originally posted by figmo59


I do recall...
Not all that long ago...
That folks that called cellphones...n other devices...as a form of spywear...

Wackahloons....


N....Conspiracy theorist.....

But I think it is ..safe now...to make that claim...
N have it accepted as...Common Knowledge.... :0/


Are you sure you recall such a thing? This has always been common knowledge. However the definition of spyware may vary. Your argument seems be made up to suggest that modern day conspiracy theorists are not "wackahloons". When clearly in most cases they obviously are.

Jul 30, 2021 - 6:25:09 AM

figmo59

USA

34224 posts since 3/5/2008

I highly doubt that there is any real stealth for the masses...

As I recall it was the fbi director Comey who actually eletrical taped over the camera ports on all his devices....


Do you think he may have been daft... or actually know something?

Jul 30, 2021 - 6:28:46 AM
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figmo59

USA

34224 posts since 3/5/2008

quote:
Originally posted by GrahamHawker
quote:
Originally posted by figmo59


I do recall...
Not all that long ago...
That folks that called cellphones...n other devices...as a form of spywear...

Wackahloons....


N....Conspiracy theorist.....

But I think it is ..safe now...to make that claim...
N have it accepted as...Common Knowledge.... :0/


Are you sure you recall such a thing? This has always been common knowledge. However the definition of spyware may vary. Your argument seems be made up to suggest that modern day conspiracy theorists are not "wackahloons". When clearly in most cases they obviously are.


Oh yes I recall that...lived it...

Got called a few things over it...

Are you sure you do not have..selective memory?

Jul 30, 2021 - 6:38:18 AM

1940 posts since 2/4/2013

You're going to have to define "spyware".

Jul 30, 2021 - 6:56:13 AM

figmo59

USA

34224 posts since 3/5/2008

Grahm..
No I do not...
N certainly not just B ecose..You say I half to...

Now do you think Director Comey was nutzs...?

I think he knew that he had very good reasons to tape over his cellphone devices..camera ports...

Or might you think his memory was failing him..or was he daft..?

Jul 30, 2021 - 7:07:47 AM

Trewq36

Canada

1920 posts since 11/30/2007

quote:
Originally posted by GrahamHawker

You're going to have to define "spyware".


software that can exploit iOS software.

Such as Pegasus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware)

Edited by - Trewq36 on 07/30/2021 07:08:36

Jul 30, 2021 - 7:14:08 AM

1940 posts since 2/4/2013

quote:
Originally posted by figmo59

Grahm..
No I do not...
N certainly not just B ecose..You say I half to...

Now do you think Director Comey was nutzs...?

I think he knew that he had very good reasons to tape over his cellphone devices..camera ports...
 


You could mean anything though. If you choose to be vauge then there's no debate to be had. Comey - I don't follow USA news that closely. Camera ports - always known to be hackable including smart doorbells.

Jul 30, 2021 - 7:16:15 AM

figmo59

USA

34224 posts since 3/5/2008

The first time I became weary of this type of controle...(n..that is..what it is..)
Was Cadillac Onstar.....

A coupl'al years I installed Google map...
They offered... to once a Mont to send me a map of where I had been...
Fine....
But what bothered me...
Was I once went toMcCooks point..park..
N under that notification..it stated that I went there for recreation ...
In no..uncertin..terms...

Now...
That..is not...cool...... :0[

Jul 30, 2021 - 7:22:27 AM

figmo59

USA

34224 posts since 3/5/2008

quote:
Originally posted by GrahamHawker
quote:
Originally posted by figmo59

Grahm..
No I do not...
N certainly not just B ecose..You say I half to...

Now do you think Director Comey was nutzs...?

I think he knew that he had very good reasons to tape over his cellphone devices..camera ports...
 


You could mean anything though. If you choose to be vauge then there's no debate to be had. Comey - I don't follow USA news that closely. Camera ports - always known to be hackable including smart doorbells.


You are not understanding what a cellphone is...?

I think you do...

You just trying to shift the thread..

To what the styal of the discussion is...

The being coy game is now getting really old...

N folks are not all that dumb as to not sees it..

 

Now..You do know what a cellphone is...do you not...?

Jul 30, 2021 - 7:28:55 AM
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2389 posts since 7/20/2004

I stopped believing in any form of electronic privacy 50 years ago after spending a few years working indirectly for one of the famous 3-letter agencies, and this was before cellphones, PCs, or the internet were around.

Jul 30, 2021 - 7:54:59 AM
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donc

Canada

6705 posts since 2/9/2010

Privacy has been dead for a few generations. During the sixties most people like me needed a job. The job application was nothing more than a photo of your naked life. What is your ethnic background ? What was your previous wage ? What is your religion, marital status, and gender ? Do you have a criminal record and what did you do ? Show us your health records . In some jurisdictions they could ask your political affiliation. If you were hired your records became ongoing. If you applied to another company that company considered themselves entitled to your previous employee records. If you got fired from more than one job you were as good as blacklisted. On another level how long have they been doing credit ratings ? How many dirty tricks have existed in that game ?

Jul 30, 2021 - 7:59:27 AM

1940 posts since 2/4/2013

quote:
Originally posted by figmo59

You just trying to shift the thread..

 

Not at all. Just pointing out that camera ports whether they are on cellphones or not have always been known to be hackable and not just by "Wackaloons".

Jul 30, 2021 - 8:05:19 AM

figmo59

USA

34224 posts since 3/5/2008

quote:
Originally posted by donc

Privacy has been dead for a few generations. During the sixties most people like me needed a job. The job application was nothing more than a photo of your naked life. What is your ethnic background ? What was your previous wage ? What is your religion, marital status, and gender ? Do you have a criminal record and what did you do ? Show us your health records . In some jurisdictions they could ask your political affiliation. If you were hired your records became ongoing. If you applied to another company that company considered themselves entitled to your previous employee records. If you got fired from more than one job you were as good as blacklisted. On another level how long have they been doing credit ratings ? How many dirty tricks have existed in that game ?


Yes....

30 plus years ago...

Me neice...who was a big wig at Atna...

Was in the affirmative that the info that thos company's had..on folks at...that time..

Was truly scairy..

Jul 30, 2021 - 8:11:04 AM

figmo59

USA

34224 posts since 3/5/2008

Google has powerful computers...
I have been told by a credible source...
That they are 30 years behind the Military....

I personaly can by that one...as a fact...

Jul 30, 2021 - 9:38:33 AM
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Banjo Lefty

Canada

2356 posts since 6/19/2014

I grew up in a small town where everybody knew everything about everybody without the need for electronics. In fact, the only portable electronic device I has was a made-in-Japan transistor radio. There was no privacy back then at all. When my mother called me in for supper, everybody knew. When we had an argument about bedtimes, which I always lost, everybody knew. They knew what I weighed, what my shoe size was, which girl I liked, and whether she liked me (she didn't). My neighbours knew more about me than I did.

There's far more privacy these days, when most people just don't care.

Jul 30, 2021 - 9:57:42 AM

74924 posts since 5/9/2007

I just got done mowing the edges of my driveway and didn't notice any spies in the bushes.
Is my plug-in home phone getting spied on?

What's a "Smart Phone"?
Mine seems kind of dumb.

Edited by - steve davis on 07/30/2021 09:58:36

Jul 30, 2021 - 10:08:54 AM
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banjo bill-e

Tuvalu

11515 posts since 2/22/2007

It's not an issue for most of us, but any of us could be in the wrong place at the wrong time and suddenly find ourselves being recorded by videos, perhaps in a time of stress, and if you blurt out what sounds like the wrong thing than you are now a momentary celebrity and everything about your life can and will be examined and publicly criticized. And that critical public examination can extend to your family, or affect your employment.
I think that the day is coming where most people are going to be anonymous online and be known only by their avatar.

Jul 30, 2021 - 11:10:49 AM
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donc

Canada

6705 posts since 2/9/2010

Recent posts on facebook are interesting. We are all familiar with establishing security questions and answers when we access an internet site. Recent human interest questions are now frequenting Facebook. What was the name of your first dog ? What was your first car? What was the name of your grade 1 teacher ? Where was your very first job ? Sound familiar ?

Jul 30, 2021 - 11:30:17 AM
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Paul R

Canada

14918 posts since 1/28/2010

Then again, these days there are so many people who don't want privacy. It's a selfie generation, where they post everything about themselves on-line, in some cases stuff we wouldn't want seen, or even photograph/videograph. When some spoiled rich kid becomes famous for posting a sex video, you know something's out of whack. Twisted stuff by twisted people has become so much more the norm.

Edited by - Paul R on 07/30/2021 11:30:47

Jul 30, 2021 - 12:10:23 PM

10449 posts since 8/22/2006

quote:
Originally posted by banjo bill-e

It's not an issue for most of us, but any of us could be in the wrong place at the wrong time and suddenly find ourselves being recorded by videos, perhaps in a time of stress, and if you blurt out what sounds like the wrong thing than you are now a momentary celebrity and everything about your life can and will be examined and publicly criticized. And that critical public examination can extend to your family, or affect your employment.
I think that the day is coming where most people are going to be anonymous online and be known only by their avatar.


I think there is a country that does that to their citizens. 

Jul 30, 2021 - 1:27:31 PM
Players Union Member

DC5

USA

20025 posts since 6/30/2015

quote:
Originally posted by Trewq36
quote:
Originally posted by GrahamHawker

You're going to have to define "spyware".


software that can exploit iOS software.

Such as Pegasus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware)


or Google.

Jul 30, 2021 - 1:31:44 PM
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DC5

USA

20025 posts since 6/30/2015

quote:
Originally posted by figmo59

Google has powerful computers...
I have been told by a credible source...
That they are 30 years behind the Military....

I personaly can by that one...as a fact...


The FBI and CIA and other law enforcement agencies have teamed up with Google.  Law enforcement needs a warrant to search, Google does not, they just take what they want and claim they have a right to.

Read this book, but don't buy it from Amazon, they are as bad as Google. https://www.amazon.com/Age-Surveillance-Capitalism-Future-Frontier/dp/1610395697  It'll scare the crap, and lots of other stuff out of you.

Jul 30, 2021 - 1:34:14 PM

chuckv97

Canada

59112 posts since 10/5/2013

I got nuttin ta hide…..

Jul 30, 2021 - 2:09:46 PM

dat

USA

31166 posts since 7/26/2006

Most people have given up their privacy and like it, their choice, “hey alexia turn on what ever”. “siri, what is …”
And what ever other ones are there that make it convenient, we don’t have any of those at home, nothing to hide, but not connected at home, even the cell phone doesn’t get out of my vehicle, not that I get a signal at home anyway

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