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Jul 28, 2021 - 3:45:01 AM
187 posts since 4/20/2012

Before Gibson abandoned the banjo market in 2010, they built a very limited (10) number of Style 5 Deluxe banjos in corroboration with Bernie Leadon of Eagles fame. Supposing they are all in collectors hands now, I am wondering if anyone knows of one that might be available? They were maple and chrome as I recall...beautiful instruments. I've seen discussions here before not lately. Just curious.

Jul 28, 2021 - 4:18:29 AM

2670 posts since 12/31/2005

This isn't a direct answer to your question, but more info and pictures:  https://www.hangoutstorage.com/banjohangout.org/storage/attachments/archived/files/eagle-has-landed-31502316122020.pdf

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At only 9K, I can't believe they weren't flying off the shelves.

Edited by - Brian Murphy on 07/28/2021 04:19:58

Jul 28, 2021 - 4:25:53 AM

Buddur

USA

3067 posts since 10/23/2004

Interesting.

Probably sitting in closets somewhere as only collectors own them.

Edited by - Buddur on 07/28/2021 04:26:06

Jul 28, 2021 - 7:48:22 AM
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12160 posts since 6/2/2008

>> “What I was looking for,” Leadon said, “was a live performance banjo for the road. Chrome is harder plating and it projects really well, so it is a loud banjo. I also have nickel and gold banjos and they can be really sweet. But for a live performance, chrome will blow your head off. <<

Really? He can hear the difference in plating?

Jul 28, 2021 - 7:51:50 AM
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Redbone

USA

187 posts since 4/20/2012

Guess that's what makes him B.L.

Jul 28, 2021 - 8:47:44 AM
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corcoran

Canada

440 posts since 8/3/2004

quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory

>> “What I was looking for,” Leadon said, “was a live performance banjo for the road. Chrome is harder plating and it projects really well, so it is a loud banjo. I also have nickel and gold banjos and they can be really sweet. But for a live performance, chrome will blow your head off. <<

Really? He can hear the difference in plating?


I suspect that this is another example of urban (or rural) mythology about the banjo. Show me the empirical evidence, and then I might be convinced that plating makes a difference.

Jul 28, 2021 - 10:24:11 AM

12160 posts since 6/2/2008

quote:
Originally posted by corcoran
I suspect that this is another example of urban (or rural) mythology about the banjo. Show me the empirical evidence, and then I might be convinced that plating makes a difference.

I'm with you that I doubt there's any empirical evidence that anyone can hear the difference in plating.

But just to be clear: I was quoting from Gibson's promo material on the model.  So it's no myth that Bernie Leadon said it. And Gibson was certainly happy to feed into the mythology about chrome plating if helped sell a $9,000 banjo. Probably $6500 or so street price.

Jul 28, 2021 - 11:19:09 AM

107 posts since 2/21/2011

I have #7 of 10 and everything that's written about it is true. I've have numerous Gibson's and this is far and away the loudest. As to selling it?... offers are always heard with interest. It's been packed away since new and just brought out every month or so, strings tightened back up, and played for a minute or so

Jul 28, 2021 - 1:07:25 PM

Redbone

USA

187 posts since 4/20/2012

That's one of the few I would even consider trading my most excellent 1930 TB2 conversion for. A beautiful piece of work.

Jul 28, 2021 - 2:19:36 PM
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corcoran

Canada

440 posts since 8/3/2004

quote:
Originally posted by banjopa1

I have #7 of 10 and everything that's written about it is true. I've have numerous Gibson's and this is far and away the loudest. As to selling it?... offers are always heard with interest. It's been packed away since new and just brought out every month or so, strings tightened back up, and played for a minute or so


I have no doubt that it is a loud banjo. But to conclude that the loudness is due to chrome plating, you would need to perform a systematic investigation of a number of banjos. So here is a thought experiment:  Commission Steve Huber to make, say, 15 banjos, of a specific model, with chrome plating. Then have him make 15 banjos of the same model, but with nickle plating. Have him tweak the banjos so their setup is as similar as he can get it, and then commission the same player -- perhaps J. D. Crowe or Bela Fleck -- to play the same tune on all banjos into an amplifier connected to an intensity meter, with loudness/intensity measured in decibels. Although not conclusive, that experiment would go a long way to answering the question.

Then you could hire an infinite number of monkeys with an infinite number of banjos and an infinite amount of time, to see whether any would spontaneously come up with "Foggy Mountain Breakdown." I predict that some would, but they would play it differently from Earl.

Jul 28, 2021 - 3:43:46 PM

107 posts since 2/21/2011

Haters will hate, jealous will be jealous, but since there's only 10 and "they" don't have one I guess they'll come up with crazy reasons why they wouldn't want one or why the sound isn't what it's advertised as. Oh well ...

Jul 28, 2021 - 3:53:54 PM

39 posts since 8/20/2015

You can keep your empirical evidence, I'd rather just play that banjo.

Jul 28, 2021 - 3:54:38 PM
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hbick2

USA

421 posts since 6/26/2004

Some people don't know it, but the Gibson Style 4 banjos were chrome plated. I had one and you could tell the difference in the plating. It did sound good.

Jul 28, 2021 - 5:24:06 PM
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12160 posts since 6/2/2008

quote:
Originally posted by banjopa1

Haters will hate, jealous will be jealous, but since there's only 10 and "they" don't have one I guess they'll come up with crazy reasons why they wouldn't want one or why the sound isn't what it's advertised as. Oh well ...


I'm not hating.  I'm not even criticizing the original price.   It's a gorgeous banjo.  I'd be happy to own one. I don't doubt it's loud. I doubt that micron-thin chrome plating has anything to do with it being loud.  I'm willing to be convinced otherwise.  Forget empirical evidence. Where's there any objective discussion of how chrome plating makes it loud?

Jul 28, 2021 - 6:46:44 PM

Redbone

USA

187 posts since 4/20/2012

Not important

Aug 2, 2021 - 11:52:19 AM

11702 posts since 10/27/2006

quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory
quote:
Originally posted by banjopa1

Haters will hate, jealous will be jealous, but since there's only 10 and "they" don't have one I guess they'll come up with crazy reasons why they wouldn't want one or why the sound isn't what it's advertised as. Oh well ...


I'm not hating.  I'm not even criticizing the original price.   It's a gorgeous banjo.  I'd be happy to own one. I don't doubt it's loud. I doubt that micron-thin chrome plating has anything to do with it being loud.  I'm willing to be convinced otherwise.  Forget empirical evidence. Where's there any objective discussion of how chrome plating makes it loud?


Actually, Ken talks about chrome plating, hardness and volume in this tread.

https://www.banjohangout.org/topic/376700

Aug 2, 2021 - 2:11:14 PM

12160 posts since 6/2/2008

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Originally posted by mikehalloran
Actually, Ken talks about chrome plating, hardness and volume in this tread.

https://www.banjohangout.org/topic/376700


Yes, he does. But to my reading he only says chrome plating could harden the surface of fingerpicks.  He doesn't say what that might do to sound.  I think he discusses changing the sound of brass tone rings through annealing, not plating. 

Maybe he's implying something about sound and plating that I'm not getting.

Aug 4, 2021 - 6:43:55 AM

Redbone

USA

187 posts since 4/20/2012

Suppose Bernie ever played his custom 5 on-stage? It might prove a point? I'd love to see and hear it played

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