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Jul 25, 2021 - 9:49:38 AM
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11483 posts since 2/22/2007

It's not just those stupid Americans who have had enough. Elected officials are not monarchs and are being told so in record numbers around the world.

Jul 25, 2021 - 10:06:14 AM
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308 posts since 4/10/2018

Stupid is a universal trait which is why the pandemic continues to spread in spite of vaccines which actually work.

Jul 25, 2021 - 10:15:20 AM
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rcc56

USA

3699 posts since 2/20/2016

The virus doesn't care what people think or who is in office. It just wants human bodies to feast on. It will continue to do so as long as vulnerable bodies are available.

Jul 25, 2021 - 10:17:47 AM

1933 posts since 2/4/2013

Suddenly you're ok with people attacking the police and having a bit of riot.


Meanwhile in London we get to see ex Hereford goalie David Icke, deny everything Vernon Coleman and general weirdo Piers Corbyn along with sacked so often for appalling views Katie Hopkins (you'd love her). And for good measure throw in a few 5G vaccine signs just in case anyone was confused.

Edited by - GrahamHawker on 07/25/2021 10:18:04

Jul 25, 2021 - 10:28:11 AM

3796 posts since 4/29/2012

quote:
Originally posted by banjo bill-e

It's not just those stupid Americans who have had enough. Elected officials are not monarchs and are being told so in record numbers around the world.


So we should make important decisions by counting heads at protests ?  I don't remember you saying that during the BLM protests.

Or does this only apply when the demonstrators agree with you ?

I was in town yesterday. More police than protesters. Polls here seem to say the people think that the government have relaxed the rules too early.

Haven't seen any news of demos in central London today. If there were any they'd have got very wet.

Jul 25, 2021 - 10:50:06 AM
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banjo bill-e

Tuvalu

11483 posts since 2/22/2007

Ha, the usual suspects with their usual replies; What about this? What about that? And missing the point, which is that millions of the subjugated have had enough of this illegal subjugation and are demanding that their elected officials remember that they are not the totalitarian dictators which they imagine themselves to be. In Paris they wheeled a guillotine into the street to drive home that point.

Jul 25, 2021 - 11:14:48 AM
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rcc56

USA

3699 posts since 2/20/2016

This thing has been going on for a year and a half now. People have made their personal choices, and I have made mine.
The only thing I have left to say on this subject is let the chips fall where they may.

Jul 25, 2021 - 11:15:22 AM
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3796 posts since 4/29/2012

Not missing the point at all. You said that crowds were filling the streets of London. I don't know if that's your own lie or one that your puppet-master has told you to pass on. I was on the streets of London yesterday. It probably won't surprise you to know that I've been on a few protests that actually did fill the streets of London. So I know that a few rowdies fronted by people even you wouldn't want to be in the same room as doesn't even qualify as 'making the streets a bit busy'.

Jul 25, 2021 - 11:44:39 AM

1933 posts since 2/4/2013

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Originally posted by banjo bill-e

And missing the point


No we got the point. I always suspected that if it was a cause you supported you wouldn't be worried about a bit of rioting or the police getting attacked in the same way that you are with causes you don't support. It's grand hypocrisy. I guess the usual suspects just have a better memory.

Jul 25, 2021 - 11:49:41 AM

10446 posts since 8/22/2006

I’m not for any law enforcement officers get assaulted for doing there job on the other hand when I see two,three of these law enforcement officers roughing up the women and the elderly I question my support for these law enforcement individuals. That thin blue line is getting thinner. And let me add... The videos and news reports of the protest, which I have seen,looked like a Boy Scout meeting  protesting the lock downs in London as compared to the Antifa BLM "peaceful protest" in Portland and Other cities. Are these videos and news reports from some other country?

Edited by - 5B-Ranch on 07/25/2021 11:55:02

Jul 25, 2021 - 1:45:53 PM
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banjo bill-e

Tuvalu

11483 posts since 2/22/2007

Graham posted--". I always suspected that if it was a cause you supported you wouldn't be worried about a bit of rioting or the police getting attacked in the same way that you are with causes you don't support. It's grand hypocrisy. -"

And just where do you see me supporting any rioting? Police attacks? Nowhere, that's where. The hypocrisy you see comes from the same place as your "suspecting" and that is the prejudices of your own mind.

Jul 25, 2021 - 1:51:48 PM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

26313 posts since 8/3/2003

And let's not get snarky, please. Let's keep it civil.

Jul 25, 2021 - 2:55:22 PM
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figmo59

USA

34205 posts since 3/5/2008

Youse guys need not worry...

They'll..the protesters...
Will all be dead in ah week ta ten days....
From the viris....

Problem sloved.... ;0)

Jul 25, 2021 - 3:34:01 PM
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6824 posts since 7/24/2013

quote:
Originally posted by banjo bill-e

Ha, the usual suspects with their usual replies; What about this? What about that? And missing the point, which is that millions of the subjugated have had enough of this illegal subjugation and are demanding that their elected officials remember that they are not the totalitarian dictators which they imagine themselves to be. In Paris they wheeled a guillotine into the street to drive home that point.


In the US they built a hanging platform outside the Capitol building and beat police officers with American flags. I'm not particularly impressed.

Jul 25, 2021 - 3:37:07 PM
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6824 posts since 7/24/2013

quote:
Originally posted by banjo bill-e

It's not just those stupid Americans who have had enough. Elected officials are not monarchs and are being told so in record numbers around the world.


On a side note: you are using the same people counting system employed by a former US President :) 

Jul 25, 2021 - 3:42:53 PM

6824 posts since 7/24/2013

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Originally posted by 5B-Ranch

I’m not for any law enforcement officers get assaulted for doing there job on the other hand when I see two,three of these law enforcement officers roughing up the women and the elderly I question my support for these law enforcement individuals. That thin blue line is getting thinner. And let me add... The videos and news reports of the protest, which I have seen,looked like a Boy Scout meeting  protesting the lock downs in London as compared to the Antifa BLM "peaceful protest" in Portland and Other cities. Are these videos and news reports from some other country?


From an entirely mathematical perspective, the world had the largest civil rights demonstrations in its history (26 million participants in the US alone) and they were almost all entirely peaceful. Sure, reality doesn't sell ad space on TV but...

Jul 25, 2021 - 3:45:43 PM
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6824 posts since 7/24/2013

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Originally posted by AndrewD
quote:
Originally posted by banjo bill-e

It's not just those stupid Americans who have had enough. Elected officials are not monarchs and are being told so in record numbers around the world.


So we should make important decisions by counting heads at protests ? 


Sadly, one of the legs the "big lie" is founded on was that there were more people at rallies for one guy than the other. 

Jul 25, 2021 - 4:30:56 PM

58069 posts since 12/14/2005

In before the POLITICAL lock!

BAD news sells ads, because people pay attention.
GOOD news never killed anybody.

Jul 25, 2021 - 4:51:13 PM

10446 posts since 8/22/2006

quote:
Originally posted by mike gregory

In before the POLITICAL lock!

BAD news sells ads, because people pay attention.
GOOD news never killed anybody.


If it bleeds it leads. 

Jul 25, 2021 - 6:10:49 PM
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donc

Canada

6701 posts since 2/9/2010

It's obvious here that most people have not lived through a world war. If you have you would know that it wasn't just the soldiers overseas who had to make sacrifices and take unpleasant orders from their government. In this country there was a selective service branch that gave orders to many people to work at certain jobs necessary for the war effort. Food rationing was common. Ask any Brit about that one. The war Measures Act in Canada gave sweeping powers to the government to invade people's privacy to insure that an invasion wasn't being orchestrated. ....Fast forward to 2021. "I don't wanna wear a mask. " I can infect my neighbor if I want to". "It's my God given right to get infected". Covid-19 is the worst war in most of our lifetimes. If anyone thinks this is government oppression they have not seen anything yet.

Edited by - donc on 07/25/2021 18:12:52

Jul 25, 2021 - 6:35:42 PM
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Enfield1858

England

128 posts since 8/1/2020

quote:
Originally posted by AndrewD

Not missing the point at all. You said that crowds were filling the streets of London. I don't know if that's your own lie or one that your puppet-master has told you to pass on. I was on the streets of London yesterday. It probably won't surprise you to know that I've been on a few protests that actually did fill the streets of London. So I know that a few rowdies fronted by people even you wouldn't want to be in the same room as doesn't even qualify as 'making the streets a bit busy'.


I take it you didn't see the pictures showing huge crowds protesting about the continuing restrictions in London last Monday, AndrewD?  They were widely posted on the internet.  And I suggest you pull your horns in;  where in Banjo Bill-E's post does it say he supports riots, or people attacking the police?

Jack Enright

Edited by - Enfield1858 on 07/25/2021 18:36:09

Jul 25, 2021 - 6:58:15 PM

Enfield1858

England

128 posts since 8/1/2020

quote:
Originally posted by donc

It's obvious here that most people have not lived through a world war.  Covid 19 is the worst war in most of our lifetimes.


Really?  A virus with a LOWER mortality rate than plain old seasonal flu?  You may not be aware of it, but every winter, seasonal flu kills upwards of 10,000 people in Britain - in the winter of 2014 - 2015, the death toll was well over 20,000.  Were people of your opinion demanding that hospitals should deny treatment to people suffering for cancer, then?  No - if the NHS bosses had even suggested such a move, the public would have been up in arms about it.  Yet it was done in March last year.  People receiving chemotherapy and radiotherapy were told "Sorry - your treatment has been cancelled until further notice", and those referred for cancer scans by their doctors were told "We might be able to do it by the end of this year, but probably not until next year" - the result is that people whose lives could have been saved have been turned away to die in agony, with many leaving small children motherless.  And yet, at the same time, NHS nurses have been reporting that they regularly did a full 12 hours shift without seeing ONE patient!

You want more?  The stress on children deprived of social interaction through schools being closed for months on has resulted in doctors on paediatric wards reporting that more of their patients are in hospital for psychiatric problems than with physical illness and injury.

Do you know how many people in Britain, under the age of 60, with no serious underlying health issues, died of Covid -19 in the whole of 2020?  Three hundred and eighty eight - 0.0006% of our population.  The average age of people dying of it is 82 - whereas the typical age for dying in Britain is 81;  and, according to government data, over ten times as many people are now dying of influenza and pneumonia in Britain as are dying of Covid-19 (they're keeping very quiet about how many are dying of untreated cancer).

And you compare this relatively harmless virus, with a survival rate of over 99.9% to a world war??  Give me strength!!  The carnage hasn't been caused by the virus - it's been deliberately and knowingly caused by our panicking government, which lacked the guts to say at the start, "Some people are going to die of this virus, and we cannot prevent that, no matter what we do."

Jack Enright

Jul 25, 2021 - 7:09:04 PM
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Bill Rogers (Moderator)

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25134 posts since 6/25/2005
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Jack Enright--sources for your statistics?  Worldwide, Covid-19 has a great deal higher mortality rate than the seasonal flu. You seem to be picking and choosing narrowly proscribed statistics to support your specious argument. 

Jul 25, 2021 - 7:17:54 PM
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kww

USA

1324 posts since 6/21/2008

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Originally posted by Bill Rogers

Jack Enright--sources for your statistics?  Worldwide, Covid-19 has a great deal higher mortality rate than the seasonal flu. You seem to be picking and choosing narrowly proscribed statistics to support your specious argument. 


I notice that the words "lie", "lying", and "liar" seem to be frowned upon here. Sometimes that's a real shame, but I guess "specious argument" can do in a pinch.

Jul 25, 2021 - 7:23:52 PM

donc

Canada

6701 posts since 2/9/2010

For world war 2 statistics there are various sources. The War museum in New Orleans estimates 418,500 American service men lost their lives in world war 2. Other sources differ but this is an average estimate. The U.S. fatality total for Covid-19 is now over 600,000 [per NBC News].

Jul 25, 2021 - 7:32:30 PM

chuckv97

Canada

59040 posts since 10/5/2013

You don’t need a ventilator and be put in ICU for the flu.

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