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Jul 24, 2021 - 10:08:01 PM

banjonz

New Zealand

11232 posts since 6/29/2003

Has anyone ever tried this? If so, what are your thoughts?

Jul 24, 2021 - 11:33:04 PM
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doryman

USA

1030 posts since 11/26/2012

It works. Hard to stick to it.

Jul 25, 2021 - 5:48:55 AM
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wizofos

USA

6105 posts since 8/19/2012

I was diagnosed with Pre-diabetes. Did some research and determined that carbohydrates are bad for you, one slice of bread can really drive up your blood sugar. All that said went to a modified Keto diet and lost about 40#. Basically low carb diet. A lot of meat, veggies and no breads, muffins, pasta's or potatoes. Cream sauces are bad. Get a book and check out the carb content of different fruits. Some like raisins, apples, mangos are high in carbs. Check the internet.
It is like John said, it works but hard to stay on it. Once you get into it and used to it checking carb content when grocery shopping becomes automatic. Restaurants will replace potatoes with a veggie if you ask. The biggest thing is to have everyone in your family to get on it together. Much easier than doing separate different meals for everyone.
I do miss toasted english muffins with home made jam and pasta dishes.
Good luck.

Jul 25, 2021 - 5:59:10 AM
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482 posts since 5/29/2015

Keto diet can be reduced to stay away from sugar and simple carbohydrates. You eliminate the up and down of blood sugar--which leads to snacking. You loose the sense of being hungry all the time. Before starting list all the foods/ meals you like that do not contain sugar and focus on them. Prepare snacks--seasoned strips of meat and cheese sticks, macadamia nuts to have around if you get hungry. Use a variety of commercial seasonings (Mrs Dash, Creole, etc) to season repetitive dishes like eggs in the morning. The first week is hell but you will loose one pound a day if you exercise 20 minutes. Then you loose your appetite. I could skip two meals without feeling hungry. But no cheating--this is not calorie counting--it is metabolic. You can eat as much as you want as long as it does not contain sugar/simple carbs. But you wont be hungry and wont want to eat very much. The second you eat sugar, your body goes back to craving food--in fact you may find yourself acting like a junkie needing a fix.

Sugar is the enemy.

Jul 25, 2021 - 6:38:15 AM
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banjo bill-e

Tuvalu

11464 posts since 2/22/2007

I must disagree with Rob because if all you do is stay away from sugar and simple carbohydrates then you are on a standard low carb diet like the original Atkins. Keto is about ketosis and requires a high fat intake and that requires a conscious effort to get that much fat into your diet. But it absolutely works and you will lose weight while eating lots of delicious food, AND you CAN lose weight/fat without feeling hungry at all. At first. But that food gets less and less delicious and the fat intake required to stay in ketosis is much more difficult than one would imagine.
I do advocate it for those whose life situation will accommodate it, but ideally the entire household should be on board with it or else the hassle of preparing different means becomes a huge strain. And, it is an expensive diet. But it does slay the blood sugar beast for most people.

Jul 25, 2021 - 8:19:37 AM

Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

26307 posts since 8/3/2003

How about just having a regular, heart healthy diet that includes veggies, fruits, lean meats and then carbs and sweets (in that order). Everything in moderation will probably be as good a "diet" as you can have. You'll get all the nutrition you need without depriving yourself of a few of the things you really want to eat.

My plate of food is usually filled with mostly fruits and/or veggies and then one small portion of lean meat. If I want to eat bread, I can do so, as long as the rest of the meal is healthy. If I want to indulge myself, I'll have ice cream or cake for dessert occasionally. I also eat a lot of meatless meals.

Keep away from fried foods, as they aren't good for you whether you're diabetic or have a heart condition or are a normal, healthy individual. Okay, occasionally twist off and have something fried, just don't do it every day.

Jul 25, 2021 - 8:44:08 AM

banjo bill-e

Tuvalu

11464 posts since 2/22/2007

Sherry, that depends completely on one's own chemistry. What is healthy for some, such as milk, puts my blood sugar in a tailspin. Cereal for breakfast meant hunger panic within two hours. I thought it was the cereal but it turned out to be the milk. But I can drink a big slug of pure cream with my coffee and not be hungry until noon.

Jul 25, 2021 - 10:52:54 AM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

26307 posts since 8/3/2003

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Originally posted by banjo bill-e

Sherry, that depends completely on one's own chemistry. What is healthy for some, such as milk, puts my blood sugar in a tailspin. Cereal for breakfast meant hunger panic within two hours. I thought it was the cereal but it turned out to be the milk. But I can drink a big slug of pure cream with my coffee and not be hungry until noon.


My husband was lactose intolerant, as was my mother.  Both took Lactaid and could drink milk, eat ice cream or have dairy products with no problems.  Neither were diabetic.

As far as milk goes, I just don't like the taste of it, so any dairy I get is from cheese and ice cream.

I still maintain a healthy diet as I said above would not hurt anyone.  I don't believe I mentioned milk at all unless you're talking about ice cream. 

If someone has a known allergy to a food, then of course, they should not be eating it.

I was told years ago that I was allergic to peanuts and for years I never ate a peanut butter sandwich or anything with peanuts in it.  Then one day I unknowingly  ate something that had peanuts in it and it didn't bother me.  I either got over it or the doctor who told me I was allergic was mistaken.  I can now have peanut butter and salted peanuts .... both of which I dearly love!

Edited by - Texasbanjo on 07/25/2021 10:54:03

Jul 25, 2021 - 5:25:32 PM
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RonR

USA

1860 posts since 11/29/2012

I lost 33 pounds in 70 days on a semi keto diet. I didn't follow it too good this last week as I was on vacation with my family. I was surprised to find I didn't gain any weight.

Jul 25, 2021 - 5:59:51 PM

banjo bill-e

Tuvalu

11464 posts since 2/22/2007

One of the best thing about Keto is that you don't have to take anyone's word for anything or ask anyone if you can eat this or how much can you get away with. You ask your body, and you are either in ketosis or you are not, so if you can drink a beer at night and stay in ketosis then that is fine----for you, but maybe not for your friend. Every body is different. But there is not guru or authority, just your body telling the tale. And if you are staying in ketosis then you are burning fat and all is right with the world, regardless of the makeup of your daily diet.

Jul 25, 2021 - 6:01:32 PM

doryman

USA

1030 posts since 11/26/2012

I like to go keto for about two months at the end of winter to burn off the winter fat quickly, but once the fruit and vegetable garden starts producing in June...I start eating too many fruit and veg carbs to stay in keto. But, by then I'm at my fighting weight and I can stay that way through about Thanksgiving!

Jul 25, 2021 - 6:33:44 PM

11042 posts since 6/17/2003

My other half is on it.  It is very effective at its purpose which is not weight loss but reducing the chance of a prediabetic from continuing down the road to becoming a type 2 or 1 diabetic.  That being said, its a struggle to find good food. Many items like breads, doughs, and sweets are made with expensive substitutes which yield a less than satisfactory result at substantial expense, in my opinion.  It's an eating life change, not just a temporary diet. Good for those that can do it, but I can't. I don't know how a person that doesn't cook extensively can do it with just store-bought products.

Jul 26, 2021 - 8:54:49 AM

94 posts since 2/7/2020

I’ve never found it hard to do after getting through the first week. If it required months of willpower I don’t know that I would do it.

I don’t mess with low carb substitutes etc. I primarily limit myself to meat and limited vegetables and cheese. If you look at the the original 1972 Atkins book induction phase, that’s what I tend to stick to when I’m doing keto.

A lot of people find digestive, mental health, and sleep benefits too.

Jul 26, 2021 - 8:59:52 AM

1525 posts since 1/28/2013

Do the Paleo-Diet. Sometimes called the Cave Man Diet.

Jul 26, 2021 - 12:54:33 PM

banjonz

New Zealand

11232 posts since 6/29/2003

One of the things that prompted me to post this was seeing adverts of FB for Keto diet pills (capsules). Any thoughts?

Jul 26, 2021 - 1:36:27 PM

banjo bill-e

Tuvalu

11464 posts since 2/22/2007

"Keto" has become a fad and brand name. The original idea has nothing to do with pills or with weird concoctions of carb substitutes. It is basically a high fat, moderate protein, and very low carb diet, with the high fat content a requirement for staying in ketosis.
And if you ain't in ketosis then you ain't doing keto.

Jul 26, 2021 - 5:44:24 PM

doryman

USA

1030 posts since 11/26/2012

quote:
Originally posted by banjo bill-e


And if you ain't in ketosis then you ain't doing keto.


Yep.  That would be the bacon and then some ice-cream for dessert diet.  Not so good. 

Edited by - doryman on 07/26/2021 17:46:42

Jul 26, 2021 - 6:18:35 PM

73 posts since 1/17/2019

Had several friends on Atkins several years back. They lost a huge amount of weight...unfortunately as soon as they drifted off if it they gained all they lost plus more. Recently another friend decided to go all plant based. Well I am sure his intention was good but last I looked the chicken wings he had the other day weren’t plant based. You really need good will power!

Moderation and balanced diet has worked well for me. Everyone is different!

Jul 26, 2021 - 10:28:15 PM

doryman

USA

1030 posts since 11/26/2012

quote:
Originally posted by stevebsq

Had several friends on Atkins several years back. They lost a huge amount of weight...unfortunately as soon as they drifted off if it they gained all they lost plus more. Recently another friend decided to go all plant based. Well I am sure his intention was good but last I looked the chicken wings he had the other day weren’t plant based. You really need good will power!

Moderation and balanced diet has worked well for me. Everyone is different!


Wait, what?  So you're telling me that chicken wings are not a vegetable? 

Jul 27, 2021 - 5:32:50 AM

Buddur

USA

3055 posts since 10/23/2004

One of my bosses is on the Keto diet and has been since I started working here. He use to be larger and is skinny as a rail now. In his office is a collage of pictures on the wall of him and his family/friends and you'd never know the one person is him as seen before the diet.

Edited by - Buddur on 07/27/2021 05:33:10

Jul 27, 2021 - 9:43:11 AM
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3778 posts since 4/22/2018

quote:
Originally posted by doryman
quote:
Originally posted by stevebsq

Had several friends on Atkins several years back. They lost a huge amount of weight...unfortunately as soon as they drifted off if it they gained all they lost plus more. Recently another friend decided to go all plant based. Well I am sure his intention was good but last I looked the chicken wings he had the other day weren’t plant based. You really need good will power!

Moderation and balanced diet has worked well for me. Everyone is different!


Wait, what?  So you're telling me that chicken wings are not a vegetable? 

 


No, but fortunately, the celery in your Bloody Mary is!

Jul 27, 2021 - 11:21:17 AM
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DC5

USA

19865 posts since 6/30/2015

quote:
Originally posted by doryman
quote:
Originally posted by stevebsq

Had several friends on Atkins several years back. They lost a huge amount of weight...unfortunately as soon as they drifted off if it they gained all they lost plus more. Recently another friend decided to go all plant based. Well I am sure his intention was good but last I looked the chicken wings he had the other day weren’t plant based. You really need good will power!

Moderation and balanced diet has worked well for me. Everyone is different!


Wait, what?  So you're telling me that chicken wings are not a vegetable? 

 


What about these?

https://www.raisedandrooted.com/products/spicy-plant-based-nuggets/

Jul 27, 2021 - 11:40:56 AM
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banjo bill-e

Tuvalu

11464 posts since 2/22/2007

Celery in Bloody Mary, olive in Martini, cherry in Old Fashioned, fresh lime in G&T, fresh lemon in highball---- cocktails are a health food!

Jul 27, 2021 - 12:24:31 PM

Owen

Canada

9345 posts since 6/5/2011

..... methinks barley sandwiches must fit in there ^^  somehow.   yes  

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