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At the risk of getting a NO POLITICS modlock: An OLD joke

Jul 22, 2021 - 5:58:28 PM
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Why should "Lying To Congress" be a CRIME?
Congress persons lie to us, with astounding regularity, and especially during election years.

Jul 22, 2021 - 6:01:54 PM
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Originally posted by mike gregory

Why should "Lying To Congress" be a CRIME?
Congress persons lie to us, with astounding regularity, and especially during election years.


I have to agree, for at least many of my observations. Ya know what, if this thread is locked, it should not be, mainly because we are talking about how LYING IS WRONG, not about the science of politics or specific people in the offices.

Jul 22, 2021 - 6:15:44 PM

Owen

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It's been chased round the block in these threads before, but my position is that lying isn't always wrong..... one instance that I'm familiar with involved young people, a suicide, and "lying" [or at least, after the fact, less than the "whole truth"] ..... and resulted in the situation being a whole lot less bad than it otherwise very easily could have been.   "No harm, no foul" multiplied by a factor of (pick a number).

Edited by - Owen on 07/22/2021 18:17:29

Jul 22, 2021 - 6:17:16 PM
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Politics politics politics
I thought if I said it three times Ronald Reagan would appear. Dang.

Jul 22, 2021 - 6:29:14 PM

chuckv97

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Oh yeah, here he is….


 

Jul 22, 2021 - 6:33:42 PM
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So many memes could be made from that photo. So many.

Jul 22, 2021 - 7:29:47 PM
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Another old joke:

“Politics”… from “poly” meaning “many” and “ticks” which are little blood-sucking insects.

Jul 22, 2021 - 8:54:12 PM

58025 posts since 12/14/2005

This is NOT a Pole-Lick-It-All thread!

Jul 23, 2021 - 12:35:13 AM

Bill Rogers (Moderator)

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25116 posts since 6/25/2005

I think that lying under oath to Congress is the crime.

Jul 23, 2021 - 2:58:19 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Bill Rogers

I think that lying under oath to Congress is the crime.


Along those lines, usually when congress lies to the people it is to get them to allow spending on something or obtaining some kind of authorization. Wouldn't that fall under fraud? Obtaining money or authority under false pretenses?

Jul 23, 2021 - 4:02:55 AM
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mander

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If "con" is the opposite of "pro", what is the opposition of 'progress"? Congress

Jul 23, 2021 - 4:03:53 AM
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mander

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quote:
Originally posted by mike gregory

Why should "Lying To Congress" be a CRIME?
Congress persons lie to us, with astounding regularity, and especially during election years.


To answer the question: It is a crime because they don't like to think someone can do something better than they can.

Jul 23, 2021 - 6:20:58 AM
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DC5

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I think Max Headroom said it best.

youtube.com/watch?v=eBeH4JNtJWg

Jul 23, 2021 - 11:05:28 AM
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janolov

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41173 posts since 3/7/2006

Political jokes should not be violating the BHO rules because politics is a joke in itself. But it may be violating when you make the joke serious.

Jul 23, 2021 - 11:25:06 AM

Bill Rogers (Moderator)

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25116 posts since 6/25/2005

quote:
Originally posted by Banjonewguy
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Rogers

I think that lying under oath to Congress is the crime.


Along those lines, usually when congress lies to the people it is to get them to allow spending on something or obtaining some kind of authorization. Wouldn't that fall under fraud? Obtaining money or authority under false pretenses?


Members of Congress have immunity for anything they say in the course of their duties.

Jul 24, 2021 - 3:41:42 AM
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And who passed THAT law??

Hee hee!

Jul 24, 2021 - 10:42:35 AM
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rcc56

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"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress." Mark Twain, "Following the Equator," 1897.

Jul 25, 2021 - 6:38:16 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Bill Rogers
quote:
Originally posted by Banjonewguy
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Rogers

I think that lying under oath to Congress is the crime.


Along those lines, usually when congress lies to the people it is to get them to allow spending on something or obtaining some kind of authorization. Wouldn't that fall under fraud? Obtaining money or authority under false pretenses?


Members of Congress have immunity for anything they say in the course of their duties.


There oughta be a law against that.

Jul 25, 2021 - 7:48:48 PM

3523 posts since 5/6/2004

quote:
Originally posted by monstertone
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Rogers
quote:
Originally posted by Banjonewguy
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Rogers

I think that lying under oath to Congress is the crime.


Along those lines, usually when congress lies to the people it is to get them to allow spending on something or obtaining some kind of authorization. Wouldn't that fall under fraud? Obtaining money or authority under false pretenses?


Members of Congress have immunity for anything they say in the course of their duties.


There oughta be a law against that.


It would have to be a constitutional amendment. Article I, Section 6 of the Constitution guarantees every member of Congress that, "for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place."

Jul 26, 2021 - 10:33:19 AM

2604 posts since 4/5/2006

So outside the hallowed halls of congress, they cannot be held accountable for stretching the truth a little bit. In session debates however, they are subject to perjury? Recorded on CSPAN?

Jul 26, 2021 - 3:05:35 PM
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Originally posted by monstertone

So outside the hallowed halls of congress, they cannot be held accountable for stretching the truth a little bit. In session debates however, they are subject to perjury? Recorded on CSPAN?


It is our fault. they are accountable to us. We the people are the judge and jury and that is the way it should be. But...we are not always doing a good job.

ken

Edited by - From Greylock to Bean Blossom on 07/26/2021 15:06:43

Jul 26, 2021 - 3:50:03 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by From Greylock to Bean Blossom
quote:
Originally posted by monstertone

So outside the hallowed halls of congress, they cannot be held accountable for stretching the truth a little bit. In session debates however, they are subject to perjury? Recorded on CSPAN?


It is our fault. they are accountable to us. We the people are the judge and jury and that is the way it should be. But...we are not always doing a good job.

ken


Right on Ken. Tried to edit that last post to say just what you said, but alas, too late. So now I'm stuck with it.

Jul 27, 2021 - 7:51:05 AM
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DC5

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quote:
Originally posted by From Greylock to Bean Blossom
quote:
Originally posted by monstertone

So outside the hallowed halls of congress, they cannot be held accountable for stretching the truth a little bit. In session debates however, they are subject to perjury? Recorded on CSPAN?


It is our fault. they are accountable to us. We the people are the judge and jury and that is the way it should be. But...we are not always doing a good job.

ken


You miss spelled hardly ever.

Jul 27, 2021 - 10:35 AM
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dat

USA

31166 posts since 7/26/2006

Dang, I missed this place

Jul 27, 2021 - 10:37:08 AM

dat

USA

31166 posts since 7/26/2006

“Hardly ever” is giving them credit for sometimes doing something

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