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May 16, 2021 - 1:45:21 PM
13 posts since 7/23/2020

I have been getting into learning some Dock Boggs lately. I'm enjoying playing around with thumb lead in the f#DGAD tuning.
From what I understand "Glory Land" and "Danville Girl" were both played in this tuning. To my ear, these songs sound like the same melody. Am I hearing this right, or are there important differences? I'm still a beginner when it comes to picking up songs by ear.

May 16, 2021 - 2:23 PM
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cevant

USA

157 posts since 2/5/2020

They sure sound the same. Colin Bazsali does a whole series of Dock Boggs lessons on YT that are very well done. Here's an example. There are lots more....

youtu.be/WQ86765nRQc

May 16, 2021 - 3:11:59 PM
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Emiel

Austria

9887 posts since 1/22/2003

It's the same melody. Glory Land was one of the songs that was recorded for W.E. Myer's Lonesome Ace Records. Myer wrote the texts and asked Dock Boggs to find a melody for them. Sometimes Myer suggested a certain melody, which Dock Boggs sometimes followed, and sometimes not. For Glory Land, the melody of Danville Girl was used.

There is one exception in this series of recordings for Myer: Old Rub Alcohol Blues (lyrics again by Myer) seems to have a unique melody.

May 16, 2021 - 4:06:55 PM
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1734 posts since 7/4/2009

"Glory Land" does use the same melody as "Danville Girl," or one so similar that it makes no difference. It is NOT one of the songs written by W.E. Myer. The song notes for "Glory Land" on the collection of Dock's complete Folkways recordings say "From a written text given to his oldest sister by a traveling evangelist in the 30s. Dock gave it this tune." It's a fairly well-known gospel song; recorded (with a different tune, obviously) by Ralph Stanley, among others.

Dock recorded only four sides for Lonesome Ace ("Without a yodel!"): Old Rub Alcohol Blues, False Hearted Lover's Blues, Lost Love Blues, and Will Sweethearts Know Each Other There?

"Old Rub Alcohol Blues" doesn't have a unique melody. It uses the same melody as "Country Blues," or, like Glory Land and Danville Girl, one so similar as to make little difference. "False Hearted Lover's Blues," strangely, also seems to use a very similar tune. "Will Sweethearts Know Each Other There" uses the tune of "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down" and "Lost Love Blues" sounds like the tune Woody Guthrie and Cisco Houston used for their version of "Danville Girl," which was no doubt used for other songs as well.

Edited by - UncleClawhammer on 05/16/2021 16:11:52

May 16, 2021 - 7:41:22 PM

13 posts since 7/23/2020

Thank you everyone for the info.

May 17, 2021 - 5:07:15 AM
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Emiel

Austria

9887 posts since 1/22/2003

UncleClawhammer thanks, I should have checked that before I wrote it down ("Glory Land"). I don't agree though that "Old Rub Alcohol Blues" uses the same melody as "Country Blues", I hear that differently.

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