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May 12, 2021 - 1:13:58 PM
6692 posts since 9/5/2006

i mean for real,,,stomach feels like a tick about to pop and won't.
as far as petro gas,,,,i went to 7 places this morning and ended up in a little obscure station before i found any to top off her car so she could get to work till saturday.,,that was at 5:15 am and waited in line. reminded me of the early 70s rationing.
but most places around here don't..... whats up with that.. they said it would be up and running by the end of the week.

May 12, 2021 - 1:37:46 PM
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figmo59

USA

33409 posts since 3/5/2008

We filled all the equipment tanks in the yard..
About $2k worth...

The good news.. the minuet...I got the last load I needed...
The pumps got shut down...

N the price...jacked up...

Not to often that things work out in ones favor...
That nicely... :0)

May 12, 2021 - 1:40:34 PM

chuckv97

Canada

57529 posts since 10/5/2013

May 12, 2021 - 2:17:35 PM

Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

25924 posts since 8/3/2003

Part of the problem, I think, is people panic and start filling up their cars whether they really need to or not. I understand folks are afraid there won't be gas when their car needs to be filled, but panic buying almost always leads to shortages, whether it's gasoline or toilet paper.

Hopefully, the pipeline will be back in service by the end of the week and gasoline will be flowing to the pumps once more.

May 12, 2021 - 2:23:26 PM

10124 posts since 8/22/2006

Get ready for another pipeline to be shut down in Michigan.

Bridge on I-40 from Memphis into Arkansas closed for cracks. What can possibly be the ramifications on that?

May 12, 2021 - 3:23:47 PM
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chuckv97

Canada

57529 posts since 10/5/2013

quote:
Originally posted by 5B-Ranch

Get ready for another pipeline to be shut down in Michigan.

Bridge on I-40 from Memphis into Arkansas closed for cracks. What can possibly be the ramifications on that?


Just another conspiracy ,,,, to keep Arkansawyers out of Tennessee

May 12, 2021 - 5:02:38 PM

bubbalouie

Canada

15056 posts since 9/27/2007

Gas went down here! It's $1.53.9 a litre now. Do you think the fats cats are looking at the eastern States & Provinces & are thinking...."We should be able to squeeze a few more bucks outta these guys!" ? 

May 12, 2021 - 5:10:31 PM

banjo bill-e

Tuvalu

11053 posts since 2/22/2007

You can have controlled prices and shortages or you can have market pricing, i.e. "gouging" and plenty of gasoline, but it's one or the other. Those folks you see in photos filling up truck beds with jerry cans would not be doing that at $10/gallon. They would be buying only what they HAD to buy, which is the correct response to any shortage. Which is to say that those going on TV and warning of stern penalties for raising prices above some predetermined standard are not helping the situation and are in fact causing the shortages.
Yeah, we all like it when "they" get us the low price that we want. But "they" can't get us what is not there to be gotten.

May 12, 2021 - 5:13:01 PM

1170 posts since 12/27/2005

Just put some extra in a plastic bag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRjNdgAetQE&ab_channel=JasonRudison

Do not attempt this!

Edited by - banjobob1961 on 05/12/2021 17:16:10

May 12, 2021 - 5:23:45 PM

Owen

Canada

8611 posts since 6/5/2011

Absolutely nothing to do with gasoline, but 'way back when men's fastball [fastpitch softball ??] was popular I had a friend playing in one of the lower divisions of Winnipeg's Industrial League for the Manitoba Hydro team in the same division as Centra Gas.  They adopted "Let's pass gas!" as their team cheer.... and performed it enthusiastically, several times a game.   That's his story, and I'm stickin' to it!

Edited by - Owen on 05/12/2021 17:24:44

May 13, 2021 - 1:49:59 AM

3462 posts since 4/22/2018

quote:
Originally posted by banjobob1961

Just put some extra in a plastic bag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRjNdgAetQE&ab_channel=JasonRudison

Do not attempt this!


Bob

I have a friend who works for an environmental cleaning/remedial works company specialising in petrochemical spills.  He works for a branch that deals with domestic spills.  During the early days of the pandemic and lockdowns both petrol/gas and heating oil/kerosene plummeted in the UK due to lack of demand.  People cashed in on this by bulk buying.  My friends company cashed in on this because a lot of the people who were bulk buying were storing the fuels in completely the wrong containers that were rupturing/bursting left right and centre.  One notable example was people buying the plastic 'wheelie bins' (domestic plastic trash can on wheels that are approx 65 gallons) - apparently some of the brands of bin available reacted with the kerosene and melted dumping all of the oils to soak through the ground and up the spongy brick walls of peoples houses making them uninhabitable.  Via people sharing their great ideas on the internet, this became quite a common job for him to turn up to.

May 13, 2021 - 2:46:33 AM
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janolov

Sweden

41064 posts since 3/7/2006

I've just got a new electric hybrid Volvo so the electric fuel is available at home and I can go 50 km before it turns over to gasoline. (and in Sweden we have no gas shortage - for the moment)

May 13, 2021 - 2:47:23 AM

950 posts since 9/6/2019

quote:
Originally posted by Texasbanjo

Part of the problem, I think, is people panic and start filling up their cars whether they really need to or not. I understand folks are afraid there won't be gas when their car needs to be filled, but panic buying almost always leads to shortages, whether it's gasoline or toilet paper.

Hopefully, the pipeline will be back in service by the end of the week and gasoline will be flowing to the pumps once more.


^^THIS. Exactly this and nothing but this^^^.

There is no "gas shortage", there is a supply shortage getting the gas from the holding tanks to the stores. The holding tanks aren't empty and there is plenty of gas. The problem is having enough tanker truck drivers to get the gas to the stores right now. If the pipeline stayed shut down for an extended period there may be an actual shortage but the biggest problem, just like Sherry said, is panic buying. Oh, and the lack of drivers isn't going away just because the pipeline opens up again. This has been an issue for a while but we are feeling it right now because people are in full on panic mode.

I stopped at a store yesterday to get a cup of coffee and almost got in a fight with three different people because they thought I was trying to get to a gas pump and they just HAD to get there before me. One dude even went around me in the parking spaces. I was backing out of my space and he went around the front of my truck to get to a pump first.

If people would quit letting media sensationalism drive them into a damned tizzy about the world coming to an end every time something happens we would be fine. People saw the news say that there were going to be major gas shortages and high prices so they ran out and panic bought every drop of gas they could. Doing that drives the people who don't tend to panic out so they can get what they actually need before it's all gone and that just feeds the beast. If anything major ever does happen we are completely screwed.

On a side note, yesterday evening they said they are opening the pipeline back up and this morning there were about 10 people in the gas station where I get coffee while at the same time yesterday there were about 75 panicked idiots acting like complete @$$hats because they were worried that their car would sit in their driveway with 1/2 a tank instead of being full.

May 13, 2021 - 4:33:24 AM

Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

25924 posts since 8/3/2003

I just heard on the news this morning that the pipeline was back up and running and that it would be a few days yet before everything got back to normal.

So much for all the bruhaha at the gas stations.

May 13, 2021 - 6:50:27 AM

11928 posts since 1/15/2005

I got gas yesterday at Costco (here in South Carolina) and had to wait for only for the guys in front of me to finish pumping .......... $2.49 a gallon. I need gas for my lawn mower. I need gas for my lawn mower, blower, and weed eater, but feel like a jerk going to a pump now with a 5-gallon can when people need it for their cars. I think I'll wait a couple of days ...... and just delay my yard work.

May 13, 2021 - 9:11:08 AM

3462 posts since 4/22/2018

quote:
Originally posted by Banjonewguy
quote:
Originally posted by Texasbanjo

Part of the problem, I think, is people panic and start filling up their cars whether they really need to or not. I understand folks are afraid there won't be gas when their car needs to be filled, but panic buying almost always leads to shortages, whether it's gasoline or toilet paper.

Hopefully, the pipeline will be back in service by the end of the week and gasoline will be flowing to the pumps once more.


^^THIS. Exactly this and nothing but this^^^.

There is no "gas shortage", there is a supply shortage getting the gas from the holding tanks to the stores. The holding tanks aren't empty and there is plenty of gas. The problem is having enough tanker truck drivers to get the gas to the stores right now. If the pipeline stayed shut down for an extended period there may be an actual shortage but the biggest problem, just like Sherry said, is panic buying. Oh, and the lack of drivers isn't going away just because the pipeline opens up again. This has been an issue for a while but we are feeling it right now because people are in full on panic mode.

I stopped at a store yesterday to get a cup of coffee and almost got in a fight with three different people because they thought I was trying to get to a gas pump and they just HAD to get there before me. One dude even went around me in the parking spaces. I was backing out of my space and he went around the front of my truck to get to a pump first.

If people would quit letting media sensationalism drive them into a damned tizzy about the world coming to an end every time something happens we would be fine. People saw the news say that there were going to be major gas shortages and high prices so they ran out and panic bought every drop of gas they could. Doing that drives the people who don't tend to panic out so they can get what they actually need before it's all gone and that just feeds the beast. If anything major ever does happen we are completely screwed.

On a side note, yesterday evening they said they are opening the pipeline back up and this morning there were about 10 people in the gas station where I get coffee while at the same time yesterday there were about 75 panicked idiots acting like complete @$$hats because they were worried that their car would sit in their driveway with 1/2 a tank instead of being full.


I must admit that i was thinking exactly the same Bill, but I wasn't fully abreast of the situation.  I did read that there were similar Scenes in Florids - where the gas supply is actually completely unrelated to the pipeline in question.  i would have hoped that people would have cottoned on after the loo roll and bread 'self created shortages' at the start of the pandemic - but hey, no!

May 13, 2021 - 9:37:51 AM

950 posts since 9/6/2019

quote:
Originally posted by Wet Spaniel
quote:
Originally posted by Banjonewguy
quote:
Originally posted by Texasbanjo

Part of the problem, I think, is people panic and start filling up their cars whether they really need to or not. I understand folks are afraid there won't be gas when their car needs to be filled, but panic buying almost always leads to shortages, whether it's gasoline or toilet paper.

Hopefully, the pipeline will be back in service by the end of the week and gasoline will be flowing to the pumps once more.


^^THIS. Exactly this and nothing but this^^^.

There is no "gas shortage", there is a supply shortage getting the gas from the holding tanks to the stores. The holding tanks aren't empty and there is plenty of gas. The problem is having enough tanker truck drivers to get the gas to the stores right now. If the pipeline stayed shut down for an extended period there may be an actual shortage but the biggest problem, just like Sherry said, is panic buying. Oh, and the lack of drivers isn't going away just because the pipeline opens up again. This has been an issue for a while but we are feeling it right now because people are in full on panic mode.

I stopped at a store yesterday to get a cup of coffee and almost got in a fight with three different people because they thought I was trying to get to a gas pump and they just HAD to get there before me. One dude even went around me in the parking spaces. I was backing out of my space and he went around the front of my truck to get to a pump first.

If people would quit letting media sensationalism drive them into a damned tizzy about the world coming to an end every time something happens we would be fine. People saw the news say that there were going to be major gas shortages and high prices so they ran out and panic bought every drop of gas they could. Doing that drives the people who don't tend to panic out so they can get what they actually need before it's all gone and that just feeds the beast. If anything major ever does happen we are completely screwed.

On a side note, yesterday evening they said they are opening the pipeline back up and this morning there were about 10 people in the gas station where I get coffee while at the same time yesterday there were about 75 panicked idiots acting like complete @$$hats because they were worried that their car would sit in their driveway with 1/2 a tank instead of being full.


I must admit that i was thinking exactly the same Bill, but I wasn't fully abreast of the situation.  I did read that there were similar Scenes in Florids - where the gas supply is actually completely unrelated to the pipeline in question.  i would have hoped that people would have cottoned on after the loo roll and bread 'self created shortages' at the start of the pandemic - but hey, no!


People don't learn, and then they blame the supply chain for their reaction. You are correct. The supply chain in southern Florida is not dependent on the pipeline at all. Northern Florida depends on the pipeline but in southern Florida the fuel comes in on ships. Local leadership up and down the East Coast was begging people to not rush out and panic buy but they did, and it blew the delivery system up. If they would have just acted normally there wouldn't have been any issues because, right now, no "shortage" existed, it was all in their heads.

May 13, 2021 - 4:52:04 PM

oly

USA

1437 posts since 5/27/2006

Here in Wyoming we haven't been affected by the pipeline shutdown, I normally fill my gas tank when it hits a half tank. This evening, I filled my Jeep up, it was 2. 96/gallon. last week it was 2.56/gallon

May 13, 2021 - 6:23:44 PM

bubbalouie

Canada

15056 posts since 9/27/2007

I worked at a B.P. gas station in my early teens . Full service. Gas was was 67 cents a gallon.  

May 14, 2021 - 7:46:19 AM

10124 posts since 8/22/2006

quote:
Originally posted by 5B-Ranch

Get ready for another pipeline to be shut down in Michigan.

Bridge on I-40 from Memphis into Arkansas closed for cracks. What can possibly be the ramifications on that?


Seems the barge traffic on the Mississippi River is backing up due to the Crack on this Bridge. I don't know how the barge traffic could be affected? Look for prices of the commodities that these barges transport to rise. 

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