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May 9, 2021 - 9:33:20 PM

tonwil

USA

780 posts since 8/28/2011

yall can give me flak if you like, but i'm flabbergasted at some of the prices i see today for stuff there isnt 2 dollars worth of material in. example...they havent made this bridge in 8 years, and its only $95 ..better hurry before its gone. have we lost our mind? the only thing we are going to lose is our money. the bridge scenario isnt real, but there are other things that are. im not going to point them out. and im guilty for wasting my money. theres a difference in paying for good quality vs being foolish.

May 9, 2021 - 11:17:51 PM

2603 posts since 3/30/2008

Edited by - tdennis on 05/09/2021 23:26:24

May 10, 2021 - 1:00:39 AM

m06

England

10051 posts since 10/5/2006

In the example of a bridge the value of materials is secondary to the value inherent in the design and making. In that instance it's not a route to madness; if our estimate of value doesn't match the sellers we don't pay the price. And the seller doesn't make any money or have a viable enterprise. We can instead buy a cheap bridge for $10 or make one ourselves.

The principle becomes closer to collective madness (or a mad gamble/extortion) in respect to other larger items when our personal estimate of value has no leverage and necessity means that we have no choice but to pay the asking price (e.g. the housing market and rental sector).

The crux is choice.

Edited by - m06 on 05/10/2021 01:06:17

May 10, 2021 - 8:10:26 PM

tonwil

USA

780 posts since 8/28/2011

in the case of a bridge, we dont have to settle for a cheap $10 bridge, $30 or 40 is normal. i just was talking about things that are 3 times the cost of normal at this point in time. maybe i live too much in the past i guess.

May 11, 2021 - 5:29:12 AM

1552 posts since 11/27/2005

Blame it on Covid everything else is going up due to the 19 factor.

May 11, 2021 - 8:22:16 PM

tonwil

USA

780 posts since 8/28/2011

You couldnt have said it better!

May 12, 2021 - 3:36:02 AM

953 posts since 9/6/2019

All someone has to do is put "vintage" or "they don't make these anymore" in an ad and someone will pay premium for an item. As long as people do that, prices will stay high and every other ad will say "vintage" or "they don't make these any more".

May 12, 2021 - 9:44:59 AM

2484 posts since 4/5/2006

In the natural scheme of things, it all boils down to supply & demand, until inflation enter the equation. The last time I bought bridges was over twenty years ago & I bought a dozen.

May 14, 2021 - 5:17:05 PM

mrbook

USA

2010 posts since 2/22/2006

I don't think this discussion was really about bridges, but years ago I bought a nice banjo that came with the standard Grover bridge with bone inserts. I needed to improve it, so I switched it for one of the original Snuffy Smith bridges, which seemed to make it sound so much better. After about 14 years I reluctantly sold the banjo back to the original builder, who had been after me for about 3 years to sell it back to him. I had kept the original bridge in the case pocket, so I put it back on before returning it. It sounded just as good with the old bridge.

May 14, 2021 - 11:03:37 PM

AndyW

UK

793 posts since 7/4/2017

If you don't like a price don't buy it, let some other fool do it and get a second hand item for a much better price.

I love people who buy brand new cars that depreciate immensely, makes used versions much cheaper for the likes of me.

May 15, 2021 - 4:01:29 AM

2778 posts since 11/15/2003

Ok guys...
I know most of yall are in the early stages of picking and learning...but a good bridge is one of the few things in changing or bettering the tone of your banjo that can be done for basically less than a hundered dollars...and if you have a several thousand dollar ax...why would you not want its maximum potential?...

The old orginial snuffys are worth every bit of 50 plus dollars...but you MUST KNOW WHAT YOUR WANTING TO HEAR FROM YOUR BANJO...AND THEN BE ABLE TO DO IT.
Mike Smith of kat eyez makes great bridges as do arthur Hatfield and several other boutique builders...even my old pal cush keeps a drawer full of bridges to experiment with to bring out the most in a banjo...there time and talent are worth every penny.

These banjos dont play themselves...and a bridge is the final step before YOU..in getting the transference of vibrational tone to burst out the flange holes and a bit off the head...
This isnt a scolding in as much as it is dropping some knowledge on ya...
a good bridge can make a huge difference...pony up and get several...i myself have at least 15...and i sometimes when helping a person search for better tone transference will go to my private stock...and will part with it...and usually way less than. what i gave for it.

This is a basic gang...
Thou shalt not neglect thy quality of the bridge.

Warp!

May 16, 2021 - 9:25:12 PM

tonwil

USA

780 posts since 8/28/2011

The irony is that this thread wasnt about bridges at all. that was an example so i wouldnt have to mention the actual items i saw that are ridiculously high. i use either stelling bridges or snuffys myself, which i can get either for less than 50, which is about right for a great bridge.

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