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May 8, 2021 - 3:52:48 PM

QldPicker

Australia

337 posts since 4/17/2020

Is this the beginning of the end of the beginning?

abc.net.au/news/2021-05-09/bor...100124606

May 8, 2021 - 4:46:38 PM
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bubbalouie

Canada

15060 posts since 9/27/2007

Sometimes us Canadians can get away with cutting up our local politicians like Stevie sweater vest &the Shawinagan handshake before that one moderator that knows what we are talking about shut us down!

FREEDOM! 

May 8, 2021 - 4:57:23 PM

mander

USA

4617 posts since 10/7/2007

I've often wondered, given the intense dislike each side has for the other, how the heck they ever agreed to get "married" in the first place? What United the United Kingdom?

May 8, 2021 - 5:52 PM
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Owen

Canada

8612 posts since 6/5/2011

quote:
Originally posted by bubbalouie

Sometimes us Canadians can get away with cutting up our local politicians..... <snip>


Personally, I like to kill two birds with one stone...  quote Tommy Douglas.  wink

May 8, 2021 - 6:08:18 PM
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3466 posts since 4/22/2018

quote:
Originally posted by QldPicker

Is this the beginning of the end of the beginning?

abc.net.au/news/2021-05-09/bor...100124606


Or the second coming of the beginning of the end of the beginning.  The Scots already had a referendum 5 years or so back and decided to stay.  However, the current approach seems to be keep having referenda until you get the result you like.

May 8, 2021 - 6:20:36 PM
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3466 posts since 4/22/2018

quote:
Originally posted by mander

I've often wondered, given the intense dislike each side has for the other, how the heck they ever agreed to get "married" in the first place? What United the United Kingdom?

That would be one stormy marriage if you look back at the history.  
At a personal level, I've never encountered any animosity.  I visit Scotland regularly (was there on Wednesday in fact) I have family and friends there, I work there, spend a lot of time hunting there and also have one to two weeks vacation there every year.  Apart from some 'friendly banter' in the pub I've never experienced anything you could describe as dislike.

May 8, 2021 - 6:38:11 PM

Paul R

Canada

14498 posts since 1/28/2010

quote:
Originally posted by mander

I've often wondered, given the intense dislike each side has for the other, how the heck they ever agreed to get "married" in the first place? What United the United Kingdom?


A lot of fighting, culminating in the battle of Culloden.

May 8, 2021 - 7:27:34 PM

2292 posts since 3/29/2008

Is it true that Scotland is the only country in history to have voted against its own independence?

May 8, 2021 - 7:30:16 PM
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QldPicker

Australia

337 posts since 4/17/2020

IF they get their referendum it will be interesting to see the logical arguments BORIS will put forward for the kingdom to stay united. He will have to an absolute about face, (no problem for politicians) on the logic HE used for exiting the EU. Wonder if the Scots will see the irony of that?

I agree with Wet Spaniel that political discussions, particularly in the pub are nothing more than friendly banter in many parts of the planet.

May 8, 2021 - 8:17:29 PM

10129 posts since 8/22/2006

Political Football. Think Lucy and Charlie Brown. 

Edited by - 5B-Ranch on 05/08/2021 20:18:32

May 8, 2021 - 8:41:07 PM
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57397 posts since 12/14/2005

Here's a rather bawdy parody, called
"Scotland's Depraved"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee_CjD7q_EE

May 8, 2021 - 9:36:27 PM

raybob

USA

13527 posts since 12/11/2003

Ed, Yes I think Scotland did vote to stay with GB not that many years ago. My thought at the time was that many regretted that outcome and wanted another try.
Aren’t they now trying to get another vote on it ?

May 8, 2021 - 10:15:30 PM

Paul R

Canada

14498 posts since 1/28/2010

quote:
Originally posted by Edthebanjo

Is it true that Scotland is the only country in history to have voted against its own independence?


Quebec, twice.

May 9, 2021 - 12:53:57 AM

3547 posts since 4/29/2012

quote:
Originally posted by mander

I've often wondered, given the intense dislike each side has for the other, how the heck they ever agreed to get "married" in the first place? What United the United Kingdom?


Back in the days before anybody's agreement. Elizabeth I died without children or siblings. Nearest candidate was James VI of Scotland (great grandson of  Henry VII). So he became king of England (and Wales, And Ireland) too. Some maintain that Arabella Stuart had a better claim and should have become queen.

Early 18th C Scotland decided to invest big money in colonising Central America and lost its shirt. English parliament agreed to bail it out on condition that it merged to form the UK. Another formal act Act of Union in 1801 sealed the deal. 

I'm banking on my Glasgow born grandmother to get me a Scottish passport when the split happens.

Edited by - AndrewD on 05/09/2021 01:04:09

May 9, 2021 - 1:01:32 AM

3547 posts since 4/29/2012

quote:
Originally posted by Paul R
quote:
Originally posted by Edthebanjo

Is it true that Scotland is the only country in history to have voted against its own independence?


Quebec, twice.


Saarland.

Maybe if the N American colonies had been allowed to vote ?

May 9, 2021 - 2:06:17 AM
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m06

England

10022 posts since 10/5/2006

I've never encountered any animosity either. But plenty of occasions where I still don't have a clue what a Glaswegian Scot actually said to me.

So in theory it's possible that the latter cancels out the former? wink

Edited by - m06 on 05/09/2021 02:07:54

May 9, 2021 - 4:43:34 AM

Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

25927 posts since 8/3/2003

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