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Apr 4, 2021 - 2:51:20 PM
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jeffsbanjer

Jamaica

395 posts since 8/27/2003

Good day! please take a moment to check out my new platform for goat skin head purchases.

goatskinsja.com/

For over 10 years I have been preparing goat skins in Jamaica using ethical methods and without the use of chemicals or dyes. These skins are available in thin, medium and thick. The average diameter is 17.5”.

Thank you for taking the time to visit the website. Check back often! New skins will be posted weekly.

Jeff Menzies

Edited by - Lynne on 04/06/2021 15:32:18

Apr 4, 2021 - 4:39:20 PM

46 posts since 12/27/2019

I just attempted to purchase a skin off the site.

However, when I went to check out, a pop-up window appeared saying "We are not able to accept online payments. Please contact us to complete your purchase."

Will the new site configured to accept online payments in the future? I am a US customer.

Apr 4, 2021 - 5:15:20 PM

jeffsbanjer

Jamaica

395 posts since 8/27/2003

Hello! I am so sorry for the inconvenience. I hope to have the issue resolved tomorrow. You can email me at menziesinstruments@yahoo.com

Thank you

Jeff Menzies

Apr 4, 2021 - 5:16:43 PM

2604 posts since 3/30/2008

I was also unable to purchase a  head (thin goat), (message ," no online payments " )

Edited by - tdennis on 04/04/2021 17:18:59

Apr 5, 2021 - 5:43:01 AM
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Helix

USA

14049 posts since 8/30/2006

He has the right content, he's working on the right form.

I've always had questions about Morrocan and Algerian goats.

I think I would prefer yours Mr. Menzies.

Keep up the good work, lots of interest here. New World goat.

Apr 5, 2021 - 5:51 AM

jeffsbanjer

Jamaica

395 posts since 8/27/2003

Thank you Larry!! I must admit the goats here in Jamaica produce some very resilient banjo heads. I make sure they are as ethically sourced as possible.

Appreciate the supportive words.

Jeff Menzies

Apr 5, 2021 - 7:14:42 AM
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jeffsbanjer

Jamaica

395 posts since 8/27/2003

Online payment system is up and running now. Thank you.

Apr 5, 2021 - 1:45:19 PM

1221 posts since 8/10/2010

wow those look great!

Apr 6, 2021 - 2:22:59 AM

Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

24696 posts since 6/25/2005

BAA!

Apr 6, 2021 - 2:09:56 PM
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Helix

USA

14049 posts since 8/30/2006

How do they look? Not Baaaaaad!

Apr 6, 2021 - 4:10:30 PM

269 posts since 10/18/2020

quote:
Originally posted by jeffsbanjer

Good day! please take a moment to check out my new platform for goat skin head purchases.

goatskinsja.com/

For over 10 years I have been preparing goat skins in Jamaica using ethical methods and without the use of chemicals or dyes. These skins are available in thin, medium and thick. The average diameter is 17.5”.

Thank you for taking the time to visit the website. Check back often! New skins will be posted weekly.

Jeff Menzies


How muck thickness difference is there in a thin skin and a medium thickness

also can you explain what the tonal differences are between a thin skin and a medium skin

 

I have one of your skins on a 11 inch Rickard maple whyte Laydie that i purchased from John Balch it is one of his pre mounted heads and I love the tone i get with it but when i ordered it from John Balch I do not recall it saying anything about thickness, I would love to order some from you for some gourd banjos i am building

Apr 6, 2021 - 4:33:52 PM
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jeffsbanjer

Jamaica

395 posts since 8/27/2003

Hi there! Tbh I only use thick on my instruments since I prefer the tone and structure they offer my gourd banjos. Thicker is also less susceptible to environmental changes in my opinion. Having said that on an openback I would go medium. Generally I would predict thinner to be higher in tone to medium and thick would have less highs and more lows. Now there are many variables at play so every variable will affect the tone. Some swear by thin and swear by medium and some swear by thick. I would suggest experiment and see what you find most desirable since we all have our biases. Feel free to email me at the store email via MenziesInstruments@yahoo.com

Jeff Menzies

Apr 6, 2021 - 4:38:50 PM

269 posts since 10/18/2020

@jeffsbanjer

Thank you for your quick response

Apr 8, 2021 - 11:15:40 AM

148 posts since 2/22/2019

I am curious, are the goats grown for their skins or are you buying skin from goats killed for other purposes (ie meat)?

Edited by - HighLonesomeF5 on 04/08/2021 11:23:20

Apr 8, 2021 - 11:21:54 AM

Oldtimian

Czech Republic

32 posts since 5/26/2019
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Hello!

Some very nice skins you have on your website, I will consider placing an order...

But first, you seem well qualified to answer me a question I have for so long time... Years ago I read about various drum types Rastafarians uses for their spiritual music and it was mentioned there that they use male goat skin for one type and female goat skin for another. One was higher tuned and other lower tuned, but can't remember exactly which was used for what.

Can there be any truth in difference in sound between male or female goat skin? Or is it just belief/superstition? Please let me know, if you know.

Apr 8, 2021 - 5:50:10 PM
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jeffsbanjer

Jamaica

395 posts since 8/27/2003

My skins are left over from the butchering process for meat. Jamaica consumes a lot of curry goat! The skins were discarded for the most part before I started using them. I purchase them from my source which I am glad to say puts money back in a rough economy.

Regarding the Rasta drums and skins. This family of drums are referred to as Nyabinghi drums which consist of three drums. The heart/thunder drum, the funde and the kete/repeater. Three different pitches each holding a place in the “conversation”.

Some Rasta will indeed use a male goat skin for the thunder drum since this is a very low pitch a thicker skin id ideal. Male goats here have VERY thick skin, often too thick. Most will use a thick female. The funde will use a medium and a kete will use a thin/medium skin.

Apr 9, 2021 - 2:45:11 AM

269 posts since 10/18/2020

quote:
Originally posted by jeffsbanjer

My skins are left over from the butchering process for meat. Jamaica consumes a lot of curry goat! The skins were discarded for the most part before I started using them. I purchase them from my source which I am glad to say puts money back in a rough economy.

Regarding the Rasta drums and skins. This family of drums are referred to as Nyabinghi drums which consist of three drums. The heart/thunder drum, the funde and the kete/repeater. Three different pitches each holding a place in the “conversation”.

Some Rasta will indeed use a male goat skin for the thunder drum since this is a very low pitch a thicker skin id ideal. Male goats here have VERY thick skin, often too thick. Most will use a thick female. The funde will use a medium and a kete will use a thin/medium skin.

Just placed an order for three skins from you hope the ones I purchased look the same in person as they do in the photos all look nice will leave a review when I receive them

I do have a question though is all the hair removed from each skin


Edited by - Don Smith1959 on 04/09/2021 02:46:42

Apr 9, 2021 - 2:54:34 AM

Oldtimian

Czech Republic

32 posts since 5/26/2019
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Thank you for your answer, it is very interesting! I never thought that those skins can be that different...

Does that mean that your skins for banjo are mostly from female goats? With your experience, can you tell just by look if skin came from male or female goat?

Apr 9, 2021 - 4:55:49 AM

jeffsbanjer

Jamaica

395 posts since 8/27/2003

Thank you! All hair has been removed. I only leave hair on if requested but all skins in my inventory have been shaved.

I only use female goat. Male is just way too thick for banjos and most drums. Even female can get quit thick. They also use male goats here to make sandals.

Jeff

Apr 9, 2021 - 4:05:36 PM

269 posts since 10/18/2020

Thanks Jeff glad to hear the hair was removed

Apr 25, 2021 - 4:54:53 PM

jeffsbanjer

Jamaica

395 posts since 8/27/2003

186 skins posted and more to come!

goatskinsja.com/

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