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Mar 5, 2021 - 7:04:45 PM
190 posts since 11/11/2020

I found one with a Tony pass lost timber rim. She's beautiful but there's not much information on these banjos. By the construction seems they are compatible to stellings.

Mar 5, 2021 - 8:20:22 PM

Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

24584 posts since 6/25/2005

Stellings have a patented tone-ring to rim fit and unique rings,, so....not really. Desert Rose banjos are excellent Mastertone-type instruments. If you search the BHO archives you can fnd plenty of info on and posts by, Scott Zimmerman.

Mar 6, 2021 - 1:19:16 AM
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Emiel

Austria

9840 posts since 1/22/2003

Yes, Mastertone-type banjos. Except maybe for the block Tony Pass rim. Gibson did occasionally use block rims though (blocks behind veneer).

Mar 6, 2021 - 2:45:03 AM

4602 posts since 11/20/2004

Nice handcrafted instruments built by a craftsman with many years in the business. He and Tony Pass were friends and used to share a booth at IBMA. Scott was a fan of Tony's rims and built with them, believing they were optimal in quality and sound.

Mar 6, 2021 - 4:42:32 AM
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Helix

USA

13789 posts since 8/30/2006

Contact Scott, he's a member here. Scott built Kiss's guitars.

Mar 6, 2021 - 5:03:57 AM

2641 posts since 11/25/2003

You can search *Desert Rose Banjo* and find a decent amount of info here and elsewhere. Is it local - so you could play it?

Mar 6, 2021 - 6:22:46 AM

190 posts since 11/11/2020

I meant "comparable" I have terribly dry eyes at night and all words look good to me ??. I'll search here, I couldn't find much on Google.

Mar 6, 2021 - 6:25:24 AM

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Built Kiss’s guitars? How do you mean Larry?

Mar 6, 2021 - 7:11:18 AM
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Eric A

USA

1113 posts since 10/15/2019

I know that Scott's bridges are highly regarded. His old (and excellent) website is currently gone but he's in the process of building a new one.

Mar 6, 2021 - 12:28:29 PM

190 posts since 11/11/2020

I'm between a 2003 Desert Rose with a Toby pass lost timber rim. Or a new Nechville Flextone. I know what to expect from Nechville, and I expect nothing less than top quality. But that desert rose is just so darn beautiful, and I'm curious as to the difference the rim would make. New apparently it was a very pricey banjo. I'd love to know more about Scott's banjos. Apparently he doesn't make many. Last one I saw was a 2013.

Calling the banjo vets. Guid me here.

It should be noted I'm no where near the level of any good banjo. But why let that stop me?

Mar 7, 2021 - 2:26:41 AM
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Helix

USA

13789 posts since 8/30/2006

A compatible axperience?

A Desert Rose will play for decades and last a century.

Mar 7, 2021 - 6:59 AM

190 posts since 11/11/2020

No, I'm an idiot. I type fast and it all looks good until I come back later lol. I meant comparable in sound. I can't seem to find much really.

Had a long conversation with Scott, he's an awesome fella, has lived and continues to live an interesting life to say the least. I told him he should write a book! He made guitars for a lot of bands in the 80s.

Mar 7, 2021 - 7:00:18 AM

190 posts since 11/11/2020

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Cox

Built Kiss’s guitars? How do you mean Larry?


Scott said he made guitars for a lot of artists playing fender in the 80s. Including kiss, queen, cars, Blues Brothers. 

Mar 8, 2021 - 5:33:16 AM
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Helix

USA

13789 posts since 8/30/2006

The cars? You mean top down in a hard top world?
Scott is already a book, he doesn't get much notice over there in Japan. I'm glad you contacted him.

Mar 10, 2021 - 1:38:25 PM

2433 posts since 4/5/2006

Personally, I would put my money on a Desert Rose banjo over a Nechville any day.

Mar 14, 2021 - 3:29:55 PM

190 posts since 11/11/2020

quote:
Originally posted by monstertone

Personally, I would put my money on a Desert Rose banjo over a Nechville any day.


Well, that was the plan.. I asked David from Turtlehill hill for a better photo of the peg head, there's a line that could be camera trick or something. The dude came unglued, said his photos were taken with a super expensive camera and that I'm imaging things and far too picky and blah blah. I was thrown back. Seems these American made resellers have the attitude that we should be so lucky to purchase from them. They must have figured out the secret to paying thier mortgage with banjos. Lol, anyway he pulled this crap after I mailed the check, so now I'm torn, trust he will rip it up or pay to cancel it. I don't want to spend a nickle on this guy so idk. 

 

I just found a nice Goldtone OB250+TP from Penny lane and ordered it. Gold tone has been tops, from thier banjos to the customer service.  I'll be picking up an OB3 again here in May. I miss it.  I'm over American made, they can eat banjos. 

Edited by - No1up on 03/14/2021 15:40:32

Mar 17, 2021 - 6:11:14 AM
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Helix

USA

13789 posts since 8/30/2006

The first good banjo I owned in this new era was a Gold Tone OB250 Longneck, since 2005. I still use the neck and resonator over a Black Walnut rim, since 2009.

I apologize for any customer service issues with someone else. I take full responsibility. I also build in USA, America and Arizona.

Customer service is what distinguishes people here. You reap what you sow, or you rip what you sew.
Any bullcrap hurts the community.
People might be getting cranky. I heard of someone else saying something like, "I've got 12 on the bench, get in line, just email me."

Frankly I smell inventory. Or build a pedi-cab and start delivering groceries, there's a song in there for the new kids. "My face shield smells like Teen Spirit."

Get snippy and get left behind. I actually get banjo business this way, they get discouraged with Grumpy, Dumpy, Picky and Sleepy.

While talking with Gold Tone, they want to know why we are laughing. We made a superball glued to a bamboo skewer and when you bounce it you get super English, so now Gold Tone and Recording King are bouncing superballs with bamboo skewers. Come on.

I work  for you guys,  butI'm having fun on my own, spread the fun.  The hummingbird shops with me daily.  She's building a nest.

"I'm over American made, they can eat banjos."    Desert Rose, Helix and others eat Gibsons for lunch. 

 

Edited by - Helix on 03/17/2021 06:13:18

Mar 17, 2021 - 6:56:11 AM

lazyarcher

Canada

7115 posts since 4/19/2004

Scott dosn't get 1/100th of the press he deserves..likely because he dosnt want or need it.
I believe he was the head of R&D at Fender for years. He was responsible for the setup and training of the Recording King manufacturing facilities in China. He knows more about Gibson instruments than Gibson.
Desert Rose banjos don't come up very often. With the Tony Pass rim it would be a treasure.

Mar 17, 2021 - 7:13 AM

190 posts since 11/11/2020

It was, I was very excited to get it. I asked David one question and he came unglued. How dare I question his expensive cannon photo?!

I just wanted to know what that was by the nut, or if it was a camera light trick. That's it.. hell, the check was in the mail already.


 

Mar 17, 2021 - 7:14:25 AM

190 posts since 11/11/2020

quote:
Originally posted by Helix

The first good banjo I owned in this new era was a Gold Tone OB250 Longneck, since 2005. I still use the neck and resonator over a Black Walnut rim, since 2009.

I apologize for any customer service issues with someone else. I take full responsibility. I also build in USA, America and Arizona.

Customer service is what distinguishes people here. You reap what you sow, or you rip what you sew.
Any bullcrap hurts the community.
People might be getting cranky. I heard of someone else saying something like, "I've got 12 on the bench, get in line, just email me."

Frankly I smell inventory. Or build a pedi-cab and start delivering groceries, there's a song in there for the new kids. "My face shield smells like Teen Spirit."

Get snippy and get left behind. I actually get banjo business this way, they get discouraged with Grumpy, Dumpy, Picky and Sleepy.

While talking with Gold Tone, they want to know why we are laughing. We made a superball glued to a bamboo skewer and when you bounce it you get super English, so now Gold Tone and Recording King are bouncing superballs with bamboo skewers. Come on.

I work  for you guys,  butI'm having fun on my own, spread the fun.  The hummingbird shops with me daily.  She's building a nest.

"I'm over American made, they can eat banjos."    Desert Rose, Helix and others eat Gibsons for lunch. 

 


I love your work.. you got me with the spoons! Lol but I dont do open back unfortunately. I gave up on clawhammer, my nails don't grow that long or fast. 

Mar 17, 2021 - 9:37:12 AM

ChunoTheDog

Canada

708 posts since 8/9/2019

quote:
Originally posted by No1up

It was, I was very excited to get it. I asked David one question and he came unglued. How dare I question his expensive cannon photo?!

I just wanted to know what that was by the nut, or if it was a camera light trick. That's it.. hell, the check was in the mail already.


David's pictures on his site are awful, they do not do justice to his instruments at all. But his descriptions are accurate and he's an honest no BS guy. Bought my '28 TB3 from him, sight unseen, instrument unplayed. The only banjo I won't sell. I highly suggest Turtle Hill banjo to anyone, expecially if looking for old archtops.

Mar 17, 2021 - 2:03:04 PM
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Helix

USA

13789 posts since 8/30/2006

I’m happy for your choice. It’s master level work.

Tony Pass didn’t want me to show the spoons with the new rim
I play bluegrass
Half mine play bluegrass, half play openback and the other half plays any darn thing

So let us know about your Rose

Mar 17, 2021 - 9:17:43 PM

190 posts since 11/11/2020

quote:
Originally posted by Helix

I’m happy for your choice. It’s master level work.

Tony Pass didn’t want me to show the spoons with the new rim
I play bluegrass
Half mine play bluegrass, half play openback and the other half plays any darn thing

So let us know about your Rose


I didn't get the rose. David decided to lose his s*** and insult me over my asking about that photo. I took my money else where. That's two "highly recommend" people I won't deal with. Barry and David can pound sand as far I'm concerned. I spend a lot of money on my hobbies. So when I'm looking for another banjo, I'll call up Ross Nickerson.

 

I'm also very happy with Penny lane, picked up a Goldtone OB250+TP from them and it arrived very quickly.   I'm very happy with Goldtone, thier customer service is tops. 

Mar 18, 2021 - 4:22:27 AM
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Helix

USA

13789 posts since 8/30/2006

I think some spirited discussion about customer service philosophy might be in order in another thread.

Good luck with your quest. ( ):)==='== ::}

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