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Mar 2, 2021 - 7:23:55 PM

PHIL-

USA

49 posts since 2/26/2021

I find 8-9 hours in, i start getting tired.

Easy solution.

Large 24 ounce wawa coffees and newport 100's.

You can do anything you set your mind to.

Mar 2, 2021 - 7:25:04 PM

PHIL-

USA

49 posts since 2/26/2021

Oh yes, and don't forget to use a metronome!

Mar 3, 2021 - 5:34:01 AM

609 posts since 10/9/2017

From your other posts, I take it that you are a beginner working on building a solid right hand basic stroke. Do you find that there is a point of diminishing returns with such a long practice time?

Mar 3, 2021 - 7:00:36 AM

chief3

Canada

1117 posts since 10/26/2003

When you get tired, stop the practice session. Return if you wish when you are physically and mentally rested. The common best practice regime to prevent injury and the most effective and efficient method, is to practice with many short sessions as opposed to very long sessions.

Mar 3, 2021 - 9:06:29 AM

PHIL-

USA

49 posts since 2/26/2021

quote:
Originally posted by Remsleep

From your other posts, I take it that you are a beginner working on building a solid right hand basic stroke. Do you find that there is a point of diminishing returns with such a long practice time?


Not in my experience. Im going too slow (50 BPM) and watching my hands like a hawk for the bulk of my training. I like to do 30 mins at a time, then go get more coffee and smoke some cigarettes. I like to pretend im a banjo superstar getting ready to rip off a super rad lick then go into my super slow foundational type work. Its ok to bob your head and to talk to yourself. When i make a mistake, sometimes i say out loud NO and i start from the top. It doesn't feel like, practice, it feels like fun. All of this work is done from the back seat of my car, with my metronome shoved between the headrest.

Otherwise, i would be bored with life. Saying there is nothing to do is a crappy excuse to do nothing.

There has been points, where i am so tired that i cannot hit notes. That's when i stop and try to get some sleep. Its usually pretty obvious if you are way too tired and thats is when you quit for the night.

Mar 3, 2021 - 9:36:17 AM

PHIL-

USA

49 posts since 2/26/2021

Recently, i went over to watch the Superbowl with my dad and brothers. It felt like watching that crap was lowering my IQ, i was bored. Every other message was some feel good all inclusive BS that's trendy. I live in Philly, people generally dont give a crap about one another. I pulled over recently to help a man stuck in the snow, i had a shovel in my trunk and watched about 70 cars drive by before someone with a bigger truck stopped to help us pull the guy out.

This is relevant because for me, I'm not OK with sitting around and letting other people do the thinking for me. I get bored, and i get into trouble. I know its all bull crap on TV and movies and I'm gonna do something better with my 15-16 hours a day that I'm awake.

You can practice slightly tired and for long hours, but you have to be aware of what you are doing.

Mar 3, 2021 - 9:53:29 AM

1679 posts since 7/4/2009

I used to practice guitar while watching the Mountaineers, until the salt from my tears started to wear the varnish off

Mar 3, 2021 - 10:11:35 AM

PHIL-

USA

49 posts since 2/26/2021

When i was young, my dad used to force us to go camping every weekend and just about the only thing to do was watch baseball on those low quality bunny ears TVs. I have a friend that is a huge Alabama fan

Edited by - PHIL- on 03/03/2021 10:12:12

Mar 7, 2021 - 3:30:11 PM

51 posts since 12/28/2020

That's crazy. I find at this stage 30 minutes is ideal. I learn something, then do it for 30 or 40 minutes a day to burn it into my fingers and brain. When it becomes somewhat natural, I move on to what's next. Long hours or repetition don't cut it.

Mar 8, 2021 - 7:40:01 AM

2619 posts since 2/10/2013

I am "old geezer" and can still play a long time. I think stamina has a lot to do with physical condition and mental attitude. Everything I say is from experience. If a person plays regularly, keeps in shape, and maintains a positive attitude, they can play for long periods.  Well maybe not 8 - 10 hours non-stop - but for a long time.

IMHO one can play for long periods of time, but when learning something new, they should play it for short periods of time and often. You cannot maintain concentration on a single thing for long periods of time. I notice that I make most mistakes when I start thinking about something other than what I am doing. I will doing something like wondering what type of D'Addario strings I should get for my guitar when I am playing banjo.

Edited by - Richard Hauser on 03/08/2021 07:41:34

Mar 9, 2021 - 11:30:06 AM

521 posts since 1/28/2011

I can't even imagine having time to practice my banjo 8 or 9 hours a day. My life has been too full of all kinds of other stuff to do. Work, family, home, gym, horses, guns, motorcycles, fishing, etc. And as much as I enjoy my banjos, I would not give any of it up, just to practice 8 or 9 hours a day.

Mar 9, 2021 - 11:38:18 AM

conic

England

879 posts since 2/15/2014

I find a nice big fat reefer helps

Mar 9, 2021 - 2:20:10 PM

Brett

USA

2446 posts since 11/29/2005

When I was a kid learning and had no real life, I would practice 6 hours or more, per day. But, back then, at 13, all I had was a basketball goal, and 3 real channels and 1 or 2 public tv channels. And books and no internet. My banjo stayed laying on my bed. I’d do 2-3 hours, walk away, come back, practice more, etc. over the course of the day I’d knock out minimum 6 hours probably.
There are so many distractions in today’s world, I can’t imagine getting in more than 3 hours a day even if you’re trying to practice. Practice is required and much more important than talking and reading about ways to make banjos sound better. Dedicated practice where you are concentrating and uninterrupted is hard to carve out time for in today’s fast moving complex world with more eye and ear candy to taunt our focus capability. But constructive practice is the single most crucial thing.

Mar 10, 2021 - 9:22:45 PM

75 posts since 12/23/2016

quote:
Originally posted by PHIL-

Recently, i went over to watch the Superbowl with my dad and brothers. It felt like watching that crap was lowering my IQ, i was bored. Every other message was some feel good all inclusive BS that's trendy. I live in Philly, people generally dont give a crap about one another. I pulled over recently to help a man stuck in the snow, i had a shovel in my trunk and watched about 70 cars drive by before someone with a bigger truck stopped to help us pull the guy out.

This is relevant because for me, I'm not OK with sitting around and letting other people do the thinking for me. I get bored, and i get into trouble. I know its all bull crap on TV and movies and I'm gonna do something better with my 15-16 hours a day that I'm awake.

You can practice slightly tired and for long hours, but you have to be aware of what you are doing.


I'm not going to comment on the long practice hours, but It's not productive to call stuff that lots and lots of other people like "crap." Anything that is popular has got to have something going for it. You will find that real professionals don't diss each other. I am not a football fan these days, but professional athletes have to have talent and they work hard. They are entertainers, but so are musicians. Whether it is Taylor Swift, or Game of Thrones, or the World Series, you might not like it, but it requires some ability and work to make it happen. If it is succesful and popular, it might not be the best, but it has got something. It's not "crap." 

I admire your passion for the banjo though. That will take you somewhere.

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