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Jan 24, 2021 - 8:44:22 PM

nakigreengrass

New Zealand

5553 posts since 5/16/2012

So.....Does this now mean that you can not discriminate at all ?.... So....does that mean a woman's sign on a toilet door is now illegal ? A man can play in a woman's sports team and vice versa ? A male can wear woman's uniform ?....

Sounds like a huge can of worms just got opened....

Edited by - nakigreengrass on 01/24/2021 20:46:31

Jan 24, 2021 - 10:13:12 PM
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Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

24395 posts since 6/25/2005

No.

Jan 24, 2021 - 10:40:06 PM
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nakigreengrass

New Zealand

5553 posts since 5/16/2012

quote:
Originally posted by Bill Rogers

No.


Well...that's a relief...Just shows you how much BS that you read in the media.

Jan 24, 2021 - 11:00:58 PM

nakigreengrass

New Zealand

5553 posts since 5/16/2012

Although....... I'm a bit surprised the WSJ would engage in fake news.

Edited by - nakigreengrass on 01/24/2021 23:01:40

Jan 25, 2021 - 1:05:36 AM
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3067 posts since 10/17/2009

Fake news?

The WSJ reference is probably passed along disinformation,  probably skimmed/misread at best; and tracing back to a guest "opinion" piece.

Probably in reference to recent executive action about anti discrimination policies. "Laws" are passed by Congress. The anti-discrimination laws are not new.

Fact check claims rather than spread disinformation. Most of the BS comes from those who follow and disseminate disinformation... often via social media.

Edited by - banjoak on 01/25/2021 01:14:32

Jan 25, 2021 - 3:06:15 AM
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3880 posts since 12/6/2009

confused????....you mean I shaved my legs for no reason?....

Jan 25, 2021 - 3:22:17 AM

QldPicker

Australia

228 posts since 4/17/2020

How do you think I feel about wearing my kilt?

And for the recored, nothing worn underneath!

Jan 25, 2021 - 3:36:28 AM

2880 posts since 4/22/2018

quote:
Originally posted by QldPicker

How do you think I feel about wearing my kilt?

And for the recored, nothing worn underneath!


As a sassenach I've only ever worn a kilt the once, with the blessings of my hosts at a Hogmanay ceilidh - a vey strange sensation it is too!

Jan 25, 2021 - 3:54:51 AM
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579 posts since 9/6/2019

Not sure about a Sassenach in a kilt, but here's a yank in one :-)


 

Jan 25, 2021 - 4:42:01 AM
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rinemb

USA

13038 posts since 5/24/2005

boys can not compete in girls sports events (yet), but transgenders can. besides you may choose to declare your gender, and that will be that, in public schools. Or so, that is being argued. We will see. Perhaps they will make the boys/men wear weighted outfits. Seems there was another sport that did that. Brad

Jan 25, 2021 - 4:55:54 AM
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Jan 25, 2021 - 5:38:10 AM

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Isn’t it being argued that it’s enough to just whack on a dress, call yourself “she” and that is just as good as being an actual woman?

Seems strange to me...

Jan 25, 2021 - 6:08:15 AM

figmo59

USA

32581 posts since 3/5/2008

quote:
Originally posted by QldPicker

How do you think I feel about wearing my kilt?

And for the recored, nothing worn underneath!


As long as I can ..Moon.. people in defiance....

I'm good with it.... ;0)

Jan 25, 2021 - 6:20:46 AM
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5954 posts since 9/21/2007

This discussion is 100% political.

But here is the actual order.

whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/p...entation/

"Every person should be treated with respect and dignity and should be able to live without fear, no matter who they are or whom they love. Children should be able to learn without worrying about whether they will be denied access to the restroom, the locker room, or school sports. Adults should be able to earn a living and pursue a vocation knowing that they will not be fired, demoted, or mistreated because of whom they go home to or because how they dress does not conform to sex-based stereotypes. People should be able to access healthcare and secure a roof over their heads without being subjected to sex discrimination. All persons should receive equal treatment under the law, no matter their gender identity or sexual orientation."

How could anyone get mad about that?

Jan 25, 2021 - 6:36:24 AM

figmo59

USA

32581 posts since 3/5/2008

quote:
Originally posted by Joel Hooks

This discussion is 100% political.

But here is the actual order.

whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/p...entation/

"Every person should be treated with respect and dignity and should be able to live without fear, no matter who they are or whom they love. Children should be able to learn without worrying about whether they will be denied access to the restroom, the locker room, or school sports. Adults should be able to earn a living and pursue a vocation knowing that they will not be fired, demoted, or mistreated because of whom they go home to or because how they dress does not conform to sex-based stereotypes. People should be able to access healthcare and secure a roof over their heads without being subjected to sex discrimination. All persons should receive equal treatment under the law, no matter their gender identity or sexual orientation."

How could anyone get mad about that?


I ratha like the way Joel has laid this out..

As I agree..

 

But I am skeptical on how the fairness will be implamented...

Jan 25, 2021 - 6:59:33 AM
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I'm very skeptical of any legislation that is written seemingly intentionally to be as vague and potentially far reaching as possible. Good legislation needs to be precise and ask fewer questions than it answers.

For instance, it talks about denying students access to "the restroom, the locker room, or school sports", which is incredibly disingenuous, since none of those things have were previously denied to anybody... yes they were segregated by sex, for good reason, but of course this good reason is omitted in favour of self congratulatory ideology.

Edited by - Edthebanjo on 01/25/2021 06:59:46

Jan 25, 2021 - 7:15:01 AM

banjo bill-e

Tuvalu

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The devil is in the details, or rather, in the implementation of those details. Watch and see. There will be overreach followed by push-back, same as it ever was.

Jan 25, 2021 - 7:20:15 AM

2512 posts since 2/10/2013

Don't forget governments and other parties that provide false information the press. The press does not "follow up" on claims, it just repeats them to the public. It is probably costs less than employing investigative reporters. This practice is nothing new though. History books are bull of lies. Many of our opinions on historical events are inaccurate and/or base on incomplete information. Parties are condemned by one generation, and lauded by the same public later on.

A TV documentary says not country on the planet could have beaten the Roman Army when it was at is "peak". Did Asia rise from the ocean after the Roman Empire ? When invasions came from Asia, Europeans were in trouble. That "invincible" Roman Army lost 3 Legions to the Barbarians in one Battle. A Roman Legion invading Parthia was destroyed.

Jan 25, 2021 - 8:19:07 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Joel Hooks

This discussion is 100% political.

But here is the actual order.

whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/p...entation/

"Every person should be treated with respect and dignity and should be able to live without fear, no matter who they are or whom they love. Children should be able to learn without worrying about whether they will be denied access to the restroom, the locker room, or school sports. Adults should be able to earn a living and pursue a vocation knowing that they will not be fired, demoted, or mistreated because of whom they go home to or because how they dress does not conform to sex-based stereotypes. People should be able to access healthcare and secure a roof over their heads without being subjected to sex discrimination. All persons should receive equal treatment under the law, no matter their gender identity or sexual orientation."

How could anyone get mad about that?


Why was all this stuff not already in place in the land of the free ? why does any free nation need to legislate about these freedoms ?

Jan 25, 2021 - 8:26:02 AM

73958 posts since 5/9/2007

It don't much matter how things were.More important to evolve today.
Nobody said this place was always perfect or ever will be,Nick.
People in glass houses,etc.

Jan 25, 2021 - 8:30:52 AM

banjo bill-e

Tuvalu

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--"Why was all this stuff not already in place in the land of the free ? --"

Perhaps because these spurious notions of gender have only newly been cast onto the national consciousness and the populace has not yet been
forcibly re-educated. Soon actual biological females may look back wistfully on the by-gone era of women's athletics.

Jan 25, 2021 - 8:36:14 AM
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Nobody can read the future.Best we can do is what seems right,today.
The future will tell us how we did.

Jan 25, 2021 - 8:46:43 AM
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6419 posts since 9/5/2006

if you were born with the ability to carry and give birth to a child you are female
if you were born with a wagger you are a male.
putting  a dress  and make up on a male don't make you a female
putting on bib overalls and a flannel shirt on a female won't make you a man

how come has it got to be so complicated ?

Edited by - 1935tb-11 on 01/25/2021 08:48:01

Jan 25, 2021 - 8:51:50 AM

KCJones

USA

1351 posts since 8/30/2012

The actions of BHO Moderators and tacit approval by the BHO Adminstrator make it very clear: Discussion of politics is allowed on BHO, as long as you support so-called "conservative" policies in your speech.

(NOTE: "Conservative" in this statement is the American Neocon definition of conservative and has nothing to do with limited government authority typically ascribed to the "conservative" label)

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